2022-2023 NFL Season

[Lennys Tap]

Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean?

If you bet 100 that Washington's Defense or special teams scores the first TD (and they do) you win 2200. Same for the Bears.

[MuggsyB]

If you bet 100 that Washington's Defense or special teams scores the first TD (and they do) you win 2200. Same for the Bears.

Thar sounds like a very good bet. 

[MuggsyB]

Surprised they didn't review that.

[Pakuni]

Surprised they didn't review that.

They booth review every TD.

[Jockey]

New lawsuit against Watson.

[MuggsyB]

Inexcusable muff there. 

[Jockey]

Roquan folds like an accordion.

[MU82]

Well, Wentz is the best blocking QB in the league.

[Jockey]

Any guesses on who gets cut this week?

[MuggsyB]

Complete and utter embarrassment.  On every level known to man.

[MU82]

Slye is one of the worst kickers in pro football.

[Jockey]

Slye is one of the worst kickers in pro football.

Punt it and make them go 90.

[MuggsyB]

OMG!

[MuggsyB]

I guess that was only fitting. 

[MU82]

2 straight TNF games in which the winning team rolled to 12 whole points.

[Dish]

That'll end up being a great loss for the Bears.

If you're not going to the playoffs, better to be bad and lose to other bad teams.

[Jockey]

That'll end up being a great loss for the Bears.

If you're not going to the playoffs, better to be bad and lose to other bad teams.

Sound thinking in theory, but they may still need to find a QB for the future.

[Lennys Tap]

That'll end up being a great loss for the Bears.

If you're not going to the playoffs, better to be bad and lose to other bad teams.

Do we now win the draft tie breaker with Washington?

[Dish]

Do we now win the draft tie breaker with Washington?

No, head to head doesn't matter as a tiebreaker. It just helps in that Washington now has an additional win.

[Jockey]

Do we now win the draft tie breaker with Washington?

No, but you got the tiebreaker for the playoffs.

[Uncle Rico]

There was a moment on the first drive where Fields had a WR breaking open over the middle and he missed him and took a sack. 

In a football game, there are a lot of plays and it's hard to get worked up over one play but this really illustrated how much work he has to do.  I was a Fields apologist when he came out but if he couldn't recognize this happening (and his eyes were locked into this receiver) in his second season, I don't think his future is very bright.  This is a basic NFL throw.

I don't think I'll scoff at the Ohio State QB NFL failures anymore.  They have distinct advantages in college because they have so many electric weapons at WR and usually very good RBs to complement their passing game.  The room for error against some of the dregs of the Big Ten is far larger.  This is why I'm always leery of the praise of Badger or Michigan or mid-2010 Michigan State defenses.  The league lacks speed and top level athletes.  OSU benefits on offense and those defenses benefit playing Rutgers and Iowa

What really hammered this home was Herbstreit being critical of him not making that throw.  I'm not a Herbstreit hater but he's usually pretty milquetoast in criticizing players.  Can it click for Fields?  Maybe but I doubt it's with the current Bears roster which lacks talent at WR.

[WhiteTrash]

There was a moment on the first drive where Fields had a WR breaking open over the middle and he missed him and took a sack. 

In a football game, there are a lot of plays and it's hard to get worked up over one play but this really illustrated how much work he has to do.  I was a Fields apologist when he came out but if he couldn't recognize this happening (and his eyes were locked into this receiver) in his second season, I don't think his future is very bright.  This is a basic NFL throw.

I don't think I'll scoff at the Ohio State QB NFL failures anymore.  They have distinct advantages in college because they have so many electric weapons at WR and usually very good RBs to complement their passing game.  The room for error against some of the dregs of the Big Ten is far larger.  This is why I'm always leery of the praise of Badger or Michigan or mid-2010 Michigan State defenses.  The league lacks speed and top level athletes.  OSU benefits on offense and those defenses benefit playing Rutgers and Iowa

What really hammered this home was Herbstreit being critical of him not making that throw.  I'm not a Herbstreit hater but he's usually pretty milquetoast in criticizing players.  Can it click for Fields?  Maybe but I doubt it's with the current Bears roster which lacks talent at WR.

I agree with you. I truly hope Fields gets better but it seems less likely each week. This is a good season to make an evaluation; little is expected of the team so the losses don't matter. The Bears are 2-3 years away from being competitive, so a reset at QB is not a killer. And, it has been stated before, that the current staff has no connection to him so moving on will be easy since they will not be blamed for his failure.

[RJax55]

There was a moment on the first drive where Fields had a WR breaking open over the middle and he missed him and took a sack. 

In a football game, there are a lot of plays and it's hard to get worked up over one play but this really illustrated how much work he has to do.  I was a Fields apologist when he came out but if he couldn't recognize this happening (and his eyes were locked into this receiver) in his second season, I don't think his future is very bright.  This is a basic NFL throw.

I don't think I'll scoff at the Ohio State QB NFL failures anymore.  They have distinct advantages in college because they have so many electric weapons at WR and usually very good RBs to complement their passing game.  The room for error against some of the dregs of the Big Ten is far larger.  This is why I'm always leery of the praise of Badger or Michigan or mid-2010 Michigan State defenses.  The league lacks speed and top level athletes.  OSU benefits on offense and those defenses benefit playing Rutgers and Iowa

What really hammered this home was Herbstreit being critical of him not making that throw.  I'm not a Herbstreit hater but he's usually pretty milquetoast in criticizing players.  Can it click for Fields?  Maybe but I doubt it's with the current Bears roster which lacks talent at WR.

Herbstreit was both fair and accurate. IMO, Fields doesn't have the soft skills at the moment to play the position. Struggles seeing the field, is not decisive with the football, does not anticipate throws (especially in the middle of the field), poor internal clock in the pocket, etc. His physical abilities really don't matter unless he can improve these parts of his game.

The Bears poor talent certainly doesn't help, but at the same time, Fields only exacerbates their issues. The OL is very poor, yet no QB is holding the ball longer than Fields. The WRs are not good, but when the coaching staff does scheme them open or provides a favorable match-up, far too often Fields is not taking advantage.

This was the knock on him coming out of Ohio State. So far, the scouts have been correct.

[wadesworld]

I'd love to see the Bears continue to trade draft picks to take a QB in the first round every 3-4 years.

[JWags85]

Herbstreit was both fair and accurate. IMO, Fields doesn't have the soft skills at the moment to play the position. Struggles seeing the field, is not decisive with the football, does not anticipate throws (especially in the middle of the field), poor internal clock in the pocket, etc. His physical abilities really don't matter unless he can improve these parts of his game.

The Bears poor talent certainly doesn't help, but at the same time, Fields only exacerbates their issues. The OL is very poor, yet no QB is holding the ball longer than Fields. The WRs are not good, but when the coaching staff does scheme them open or provides a favorable match-up, far too often Fields is not taking advantage.

This was the knock on him coming out of Ohio State. So far, the scouts have been correct.

Yea thats the frustrating part.  He's not in a position to succeed, but he's still failing where he can.  He played a much better second half, but his first half was brutal.  Decision making/timing is something many young QBs struggle with making the jump to the NFL, but its hard to see him making the jump and improving on that in his current situation.

He's a smart and effective runner, its great to see him slide instead of getting maimed.  He's making more and more good throws, changing arm and delivery angles, his deep ball is looking nice.  But he's missing touch throws and not seeing developing routes, its all for naught.

I don't agree that its a good season to make an evaluation cause he's in such a brutal surrounding talent situation, but he's not earned benefit of the doubt with a lot of his play.  With all due respect, the idea that the Bears "aren't bad" outside of Fields struggling is absolute insanity.  Outside of decent RBs and Mooney, who is a good WR2/3 not a WR1, there are zero play makers, the line is atrocious, and the defense is suspect outside of the secondary.