Science still not settled on Natural Immunity vs Vaccines

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

https://fortune.com/2022/01/27/omicron-cases-england-uk-reinfection-covid/

[4everwarriors]

And FD Joe has over 500,000 deaths on his watch. Fantastic job of controllin' da virus, aina?

[pacearrow02]

This is a key aspect of these studies the average person doesn't understand. The typical threshold for a successful child vaccine is that they are as effective as the equivalent dosage for adults and teens. Failing that threshold does not mean it isn't effective.

That 50% efficacy compared to adult dosage was for 5-12 years old?  I didn't see any actual % compared to teens or adults in the under 5 crowd which was what I was talking about yesterday.

[pacearrow02]

Citation, please.
To save us both some time, here's mine.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/95344

Read your link and you'll see one of my citations.  Interesting last paragraph in your link as well. 

[Pakuni]

Read your link and you'll see one of my citations.  Interesting last paragraph in your link as well.

So, you have no citations?
Thanks

[pacearrow02]

So, you have no citations?
Thanks

You were the guy in college who would put his name on a group project and contribute nothing to the work weren't you. 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/94258

Yes I know the expert said while natural immunity was stronger against reinfection then vaccination it isn't a reason to go out and try to get Covid, I agree.  I'm talking about the millions of people who have already gotten Covid accidentally and that those people should not be mandated to get poked to keep their job, go to a show, or participate in normal life activities. 

[🏀]

You were the guy in college who would put his name on a group project and contribute nothing to the work weren't you. 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/94258

Yes I know the expert said while natural immunity was stronger against reinfection then vaccination it isn't a reason to go out and try to get Covid, I agree.  I'm talking about the millions of people who have already gotten Covid accidentally and that those people should not be mandated to get poked to keep their job, go to a show, or participate in normal life activities. 

What's better contribute nothing to the group or only contribute wrong answers?

[pbiflyer]

And FD Joe has over 500,000 deaths on his watch. Fantastic job of controllin' da virus, aina?

thankfully, they are mostly stupid anti vaxxers.

[pacearrow02]

What's better contribute nothing to the group or only contribute wrong answers?

Haha, good point!

[tower912]

And FD Joe has over 500,000 deaths on his watch. Fantastic job of controllin' da virus, aina?

The anti-vaxx death cult chose those results.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Anyone who can't have an honest back and forth about the data from a study but rather only focuses on the author/poster is a 🤡🤡

[TSmith34, Inc.]

And FD Joe has over 500,000 deaths on his watch. Fantastic job of controllin' da virus, aina?

Arsonist sets fire, blames Fire Department.

[rocky_warrior]

And FD Joe has over 500,000 deaths on his watch. Fantastic job of controllin' da virus, aina?

Obviously it's his plan to kill off the unvaccinated people that didn't vote for him.  Duh.  Thought you were an independent thinker.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Shockingly, Cheeks, I mean WarriorDad, I mean pace, I mean stanik, I mean thomas has left out some key portions of the findings.
Such as:

"Furthermore, we found that a single dose of vaccine given to a previously infected individual or to an uninfected doubly vaccinated individual (i.e., a booster dose) restores the protection to the level in the early months following recovery or vaccination."

In other words, get the booster and you get the same or better protection without having to get sick.

Showing them for the 17th time that they are wrong will unfortunately yield no better results that it did the first 16 times.

Teaching your dog calculus would be time better spent.

[MUDPT]

That 50% efficacy compared to adult dosage was for 5-12 years old?  I didn't see any actual % compared to teens or adults in the under 5 crowd which was what I was talking about yesterday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/01/us/politics/pfizer-vaccine-kids.html

[Uncle Rico]

The anti-vaxx death cult chose those results.

Interestingly, we had a pandemic plan of action set forth by the W administration.  It was a well-thought out, pragmatic approach to a pandemic and was still in place under the Obama administration.  The Trump administration tossed it because it was designed by W and recommended to be continued by Obama.

Whether it would have worked is hard to say but the plans proposed in it, would have been less restrictive on a national scale but more restrictive on local levels as outbreaks occurred.  It would have taken discipline to implement and would have required courage from the Oval Office to do so, not political considerations or concerns about approval ratings.

The opinion anyone in the Oval Office would have ignored a plan in place for the pandemic is valid.  Political considerations almost always trump the correct course of action but when you have no plan over petty jealousy, well, it doesn't matter, I reckon

[4everwarriors]

The anti-vaxx death cult chose those results.

Yeah, butt now FD Joe iz gonna kut cancer deaths bi 50%, hey?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Yeah, butt now FD Joe iz gonna kut cancer deaths bi 50%, hey?

People need to stop taking the human papillomavirus vaccine. #fearandcontrol

Oh, that's right, you are still working your way through chapter 1 of Vaccines 101.

[MU82]

Yeah, butt now FD Joe iz gonna kut cancer deaths bi 50%, hey?

If only Biden had promised that Mexico would pay for it, you'da been for it, nu?

[forgetful]

If only Biden had promised that Mexico would pay for it, you'da been for it, nu?

Personally, I think he should have bought Greenland, and sent all the unvaxxed there.

[4everwarriors]

If only Biden had promised that Mexico would pay for it, you'da been for it, nu?

We'd all be better off if he'd just secure the Mexican border. That's a little much to ask considering how he fooked up Afghanistan and such, aina?

[The Sultan]

We'd all be better off if he'd just secure the Mexican border. That's a little much to ask considering how he fooked up Afghanistan and such, aina?

It has never been, nor will it ever be, completely secure. Common sense immigration laws would be 100% better.

But of course some people don't like brown people who speak a non-English language, so they are easily swayed by "secure the border" nonsense.

[MU82]

We'd all be better off if he'd just secure the Mexican border.

Yeah, especially if Mexico will pay for it!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Yeah, especially if Mexico will pay for it!

Nuclear bombs. Works for hurricanes, will definitely stop border crossings.

[pbiflyer]

I REFUSE TO PUT ON WINTER TIRES BECAUSE:
• It's my car, my choice, my freedom.
• The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (like I'm supposed to trust them).
• My neighbor Bob had an accident even after putting on winter tires.
• Some drivers are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their ineffectiveness.
• We do not know what the tires are made of.
• The tire manufacturers scare us with winter just to enrich themselves.
• In fact, I read on the internet that the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.
• If I have winter tires, the government can track me in the snow.
Educate yourself, open your eyes, stop being sheep!
This year, I say no to winter tires!