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mileskishnish72

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 01, 2022, 02:40:16 PM

He said he didn't trust his guys to properly foul in that situation.

Bullshit! Character revealed.

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 01, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
That's why the shut the program down.  No way they recover.  RIP

Bad news is that they are shutting down the University because of this. The good news is they are disbursing the endowment to all alumni.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

NickelDimer

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 01, 2022, 02:40:16 PM
He said he didn't trust his guys to properly foul in that situation.
Please tell me he didn't actually say this
No Finish Line

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 01, 2022, 02:49:06 PM
Bad news is that they are shutting down the University because of this. The good news is they are disbursing the endowment to all alumni.

Payments available at The Harp
"Well, we're all going to die."

We R Final Four



mileskishnish72

Losing sucks.

Losing what was essentially a W sucks more.

BS in the presser after blowing a won game sucks even more than that.

But the things that sucks even more than all those things added together is that I'm getting Wojo vibes.

Mu8891

Yes ... he said he ( basically) did not trust his players.  Was " afraid " Creighton would get 3 FTs ... also made other excuses.

And ... yes ... very WOJO like

Uncle Rico

"Well, we're all going to die."

The Sultan

Don't worry about the presser. It's just saying stuff.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Elonsmusk

Quote from: NickelDimer on January 01, 2022, 02:57:43 PM
Yikes that's really bad

I don't think that's so bad to say. The whistle generally went Creighton's way..including the play that preceded that possession. One ref called a charge on the CU player - the ref closest to the play. They apparently went to replay to assess who touched the ball last?  (I was at the game.)

Offfensive players are immediately coached to get into the shooting motion on contact to put the ref in a position to potentially make a call.

However once O'Connell put the ball on the floor to dribble..you 100% should have coached that moment as a must foul.

Sucks the kid hit a tough shot and we didn't foul once he dribbled.

muspc2

    Uncle Rico, I don't want to get in the middle of how or why MU lost the game. I just have to say that your post about what  was done to the program and Shaka after the game had me laughing long and hard. I've been an avid follower of the program well over 50 years, so any loss is not to be taken lightly. But that post is an instant classic on many levels. Thanks for putting things in perspective.

hawk

SHAKE NOT SMART.  To foul on the catch was the obvious play with 3 seconds left.  Just stupid not to.  He threw away a won game.  a game they needed to win.  hang this one on Shaka's  shoulders.  That said I still believe the proof of this team is what they do against De Paul, Butler , Georgetown and possibly St. Johns.  I always figured MU to finish 9-11 in conference 0-6 against the best and 5-1 against the worst and some sort of split with the middle.  Smart never replaced Garcia with an another bid he left that scholy in his pocket.  This team isn't ready to win but plays hard and could be dangerous in the second half of the season.  This may have been the win the team needed to turn the corner but it didn't happen.  need to finish at the rim ,make more 3's.  pretty happy with the defense overall.

willie warrior

Quote from: Goose on January 01, 2022, 01:39:13 PM
Not so sure on this being first test, but he did fail today.
He absolutely failed today. Thoroughly outcoached by McDermott. Creighton has shooters that can make 3's. We dont. Excuses do not wash after half a season. Shaka Kahn better step it up.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on January 01, 2022, 03:29:35 PM
He absolutely failed today. Thoroughly outcoached by McDermott. Creighton has shooters that can make 3's. We dont. Excuses do not wash after half a season. Shaka Kahn better step it up.

If you ignore the fact that Creighton shoots the 3 worse than MU does on the year, you're right.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: BLM on January 01, 2022, 03:32:41 PM
If you ignore the fact that Creighton shoots the 3 worse than MU does on the year, you're right.

Willie isn't a "facts" guy
"Well, we're all going to die."

PointWarrior

That was Wojo-esque end of game management. 

Shaka better hope his team improves their shooting or brings in way better talent next year or they will stay in the BR basement for the foreseeable future. 

Elonsmusk

Quote from: willie warrior on January 01, 2022, 03:29:35 PM
He absolutely failed today. Thoroughly outcoached by McDermott. Creighton has shooters that can make 3's. We dont. Excuses do not wash after half a season. Shaka Kahn better step it up.

You do realize you just wrote Creighton has shooters that can make 3's. We don't.

Only so much a coach can do..recruiting will be important. Team has heart and that's a reflection of the coach. Shaka failed today, yet his team shows no quit and nearly stole a game in which Justin played terribly offensively.

MU82

Here is word-for-word exactly what Shaka Smart said at his postgame presser about the no-foul-up-3 situation:

We normally, when there's 6 seconds or less, do. It was a unique situation with the ball being on the side there. What we didn't want to happen was for them to throw it in and us to go foul and then (O'Connell) to get into the shooting motion.

Obviously, when you watch the play back, you certainly would wanna do something different -- either really, really play a lot more aggressively, or foul. I've unfortunately seen it work out the wrong way both ways, and I think for us, regardless of what we're doing, it's about executing it and finding a way.

And I think it's really important not to ever encapsulate a game in one play. Certainly that one sticks out because we had a 3-point lead with 3 seconds left.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

panda

Quote from: PointWarrior on January 01, 2022, 03:33:37 PM
That was Wojo-esque end of game management. 

Shaka better hope his team improves their shooting or brings in way better talent next year or they will stay in the BR basement for the foreseeable future.

Wojo forgot the score. Shaka flipped a coin and bet on his guys. Get real.

Richie

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 01, 2022, 02:40:16 PM
He said he is a coach who fouls up 3 with 6 seconds in a live ball situation.
He said he didn't trust his guys to properly foul in that situation.
Again, I believe that allowing a tie and forcing  a 2OT was certain death.

He never used the word trust, he did not say  "he didn't trust his guys to properly foul in that situation."

blatant mischaracterization

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 01, 2022, 02:39:41 PM
They announced after the game they were ending the program and rescinding all scholarships.  Shaka was also arrested

What's incredible is that Shaka wasn't even granted bail. "You can just rot in there," said the judge, "but at least you'll be safe from all the crime in the area around The Al."

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 01, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
That's why the shut the program down.  No way they recover.  RIP

Actually, Unk, people are saying that Wojo has reached out to Marquette so he can pull a Bud Grant/Joe Gibbs/Mack Brown/Dave Leitao and lead our heroes back to greatness. We're saved!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PointWarrior

Team has heart that for sure.  That might get them 4 wins in the BE?   Shaka better figure out how to get more talent into the program. Or figure out how to make them shoot better. 

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 01, 2022, 03:35:09 PM
You do realize you just wrote Creighton has shooters that can make 3's. We don't.

Only so much a coach can do..recruiting will be important. Team has heart and that's a reflection of the coach. Shaka failed today, yet his team shows no quit and nearly stole a game in which Justin played terribly offensively.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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