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Author Topic: 2022 Team Outlook  (Read 109430 times)

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1150 on: October 08, 2022, 08:39:33 AM »
Prediction: The best moment of the season will be when Sean Jones catches a body on a dunk. 100%

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1151 on: October 08, 2022, 09:06:24 AM »
Prediction: The best moment of the season will be when Sean Jones catches a body on a dunk. 100%

I’m thinking it’ll be when we make it to the second weekend (which is a lock) but maybe he’ll bodybag someone to get there
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1152 on: October 08, 2022, 09:47:52 AM »
can he even dunk.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1153 on: October 08, 2022, 09:51:41 AM »
can he even dunk.

No, he has no legs
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1154 on: October 08, 2022, 05:39:04 PM »
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1155 on: October 10, 2022, 03:21:39 PM »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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« Reply #1156 on: October 10, 2022, 03:39:37 PM »
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1157 on: October 10, 2022, 06:02:18 PM »
Mention of Sean Jones dad being from Milwaukee so he's got a lot of family in the area.

That's something I was unaware of. Pretty cool!
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1158 on: October 11, 2022, 08:41:18 PM »
Stevie's offense is going to be another key for us imo.  He is an excellent on the ball defender and strong enough to guard all perimeter positions. If he can keep the defense honest, and knock down open shots, he will be on the floor heavy mins.  Between O-Max, ZW, and Stevie we need 2 of 3 to be highly productive on both ends of the floor.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1161 on: October 12, 2022, 09:51:46 AM »

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« Reply #1162 on: October 12, 2022, 09:57:26 AM »
On the other end are those (raises hand) who think he could have a breakout season and have more upside than JL.  As with most things, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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« Reply #1163 on: October 12, 2022, 10:13:23 AM »
On the other end are those (raises hand) who think he could have a breakout season and have more upside than JL.  As with most things, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Defensively perhaps, but JL was a 24% usage guy as a true frosh & 26% (w/29% %shots) last season.

As a true frosh, OMax has an 18% usage & last season just 16%.

I don’t see it

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« Reply #1164 on: October 12, 2022, 10:17:55 AM »
I understand your perspective.  Morsell and Lewis took a whole bunch of minutes and a whole bunch of usage with them.   The shots have to come from somewhere. I think OMax's will get a fair amount of them.
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« Reply #1165 on: October 12, 2022, 10:18:23 AM »
On the other end are those (raises hand) who think he could have a breakout season and have more upside than JL.  As with most things, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I was told no one was allowed to have expectations. But I am in agreement with you that I think he's a strong breakout candidate. The energy level on defense is a game changer and hopefully he channel that into confidence on the offensive end, we could be in for a treat.

But on the other hand, COLE.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1166 on: October 12, 2022, 10:55:09 AM »
I said it over the summer and I’ll say it again. I don’t know what people see in Omax. He’s a good role player but we’re F’ed if he’s our go to guy, and I think we’re a second weekend team

Kam and Jop will average more than him and I’ll take Jop’s offense over Omax’s mystery shutdown D that people see

PS- Kolek is by far the most important player on the team and I don’t think it’s close
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« Reply #1167 on: October 12, 2022, 11:08:45 AM »
I said it over the summer and I’ll say it again. I don’t know what people see in Omax. He’s a good role player but we’re F’ed if he’s our go to guy, and I think we’re a second weekend team

Kam and Jop will average more than him and I’ll take Jop’s offense over Omax’s mystery shutdown D that people see

PS- Kolek is by far the most important player on the team and I don’t think it’s close

Omax is the proverbial baseball “5 tool player without the belt”. He has all the skills to put it together but we’ve only seen small flashes so far. Hopefully it happens this year, but I agree. I’m more bullish on some other returning players than Prosper.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1168 on: October 12, 2022, 11:13:04 AM »
Defensively perhaps, but JL was a 24% usage guy as a true frosh & 26% (w/29% %shots) last season.

As a true frosh, OMax has an 18% usage & last season just 16%.

I don’t see it

I don't think you need a high usage guy to win.

OMax can replace Justin and maybe then some in skill, but the usage will be spread out amongst the whole crew rather than 1 guy. Could be beneficial for the team in the long run.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1169 on: October 12, 2022, 11:21:32 AM »
I said it over the summer and I’ll say it again. I don’t know what people see in Omax. He’s a good role player but we’re F’ed if he’s our go to guy, and I think we’re a second weekend team

Kam and Jop will average more than him and I’ll take Jop’s offense over Omax’s mystery shutdown D that people see

PS- Kolek is by far the most important player on the team and I don’t think it’s close

I agree with this analysis.  I hope he has a breakout year but I’m not seeing what others are.  I think we’ll see incremental improvement year over year from him.  If he breaks out and improves exponentially like others are guessing, this could be a great year.

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« Reply #1170 on: October 12, 2022, 12:13:20 PM »
Why are some people hyping Joplin so much?  Last year, he was a poor defender, a non-factor on the glass, didn't get many assists,  and shot poorly from 3.

I think Joplin has a chance to be a helpful bench scorer but I'm not exactly counting on it. 

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« Reply #1171 on: October 12, 2022, 12:19:52 PM »
I said it over the summer and I’ll say it again. I don’t know what people see in Omax.

I guess you need to ask Shaka. He clearly sees something in O-Max, and he's the only one who really matters.

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« Reply #1172 on: October 12, 2022, 12:34:42 PM »
Why are some people hyping Joplin so much?  Last year, he was a poor defender, a non-factor on the glass, didn't get many assists,  and shot poorly from 3.

I think Joplin has a chance to be a helpful bench scorer but I'm not exactly counting on it.

Really all our players have question marks. I’m not sure there is one player where anyone can guarantee the necessary leap in production to take us to the next level (a one win NCAA team) or even to be as good as last year. 

Everyone is guessing and hoping which players will be good and make the jump.  There are no ultra obvious candidates that will improve enough to make a difference.  Only candidates that we need/want/hope to improve.  All the players on our team have offensive or defensive deficiencies.  No one is a well rounded player at this point.

Maybe Shaka is the difference and it all comes together for one or two or several players this year.

I don’t think we know yet.  There are no 3 amigos, deniers, novaks, wades, crowders, butlers, haywards, hausers, howards, blues, etc returning that make me truly optimistic about this year. 

If anything, I agree with those who think we are one more year away from making any noise in the dance and possibly don’t even make the dance this year.

Badly want to be wrong.  Newsy and Unc, I will preemptively say COLE.

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« Reply #1173 on: October 12, 2022, 12:36:41 PM »
Why are some people hyping Joplin so much?  Last year, he was a poor defender, a non-factor on the glass, didn't get many assists,  and shot poorly from 3.

I think Joplin has a chance to be a helpful bench scorer but I'm not exactly counting on it.

Top 100 recruit - very good multi level scorer in high school and aau. Showed flashes in very limited minutes last year.

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« Reply #1174 on: October 12, 2022, 01:05:43 PM »
Shooter, I stay COLE that way no matter what I'm not disappointed. Better than being a mope
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