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Author Topic: 2023 Team Outlook  (Read 178281 times)

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1125 on: October 04, 2022, 07:00:01 PM »
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I am loving your optimism on this upcoming year. You know your stuff and I agree with you and TAMU. They are well ahead of where they were a year ago and they are going to be fun to watch.

Talent is there, let’s see if Shaka can figure out how to incorporate a solid 8 man rotation.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1126 on: October 04, 2022, 07:51:43 PM »
To much talent is a Moper’s delight….


I don’t think that’s a great situation. Tons of question marks.

Could be fine in the end, but there are so many options because this roster has so many question marks.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1127 on: October 04, 2022, 08:01:13 PM »
To much talent is a Moper’s delight….
Mockers
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excrement?
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1128 on: October 05, 2022, 10:12:51 AM »
Justin's value can be replaced, but I don't know that Darryl's can this year. Veteran leader on both ends of the court that took games over at times offensively.

I love this roster but think we are a year or 2 away from making any noise. I'd love to be wrong but I still think it is more likely that this team misses the NIT than getting an NCAA Bid.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1129 on: October 05, 2022, 10:25:23 AM »
Justin's value can be replaced, but I don't know that Darryl's can this year. Veteran leader on both ends of the court that took games over at times offensively.

Morsell had a tone-setting, take-over-games stretch to start the season and also finished fairly strongly, with big games against Creighton and St. John's. But during the 21-game stretch from Nov. 19 to Feb. 16, Morsell averaged 10.7 points on .393 shooting (.309 from 3). He had about as many turnovers as assists, and he was getting to the line only twice a game. As a result, Shaka benched him several times.

In other words, for the majority of the season, he was the guy who averaged 9 ppg over 4 seasons at Maryland.

But yes, he occasionally could take over games and he was a good defender, so it will be interesting to see which players emerge with those skills.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1130 on: October 05, 2022, 10:27:18 AM »
Justin's value can be replaced, but I don't know that Darryl's can this year. Veteran leader on both ends of the court that took games over at times offensively.

I love this roster but think we are a year or 2 away from making any noise. I'd love to be wrong but I still think it is more likely that this team misses the NIT than getting an NCAA Bid.

Justin shot 34% from 3's last year, that can be replaced, better, not sure but equally as good yes.  His D was average, rebounding at times was very good, also, at
times non-existant.  MU will be quicker with him not on the court.  They can replace his scoring,  if somebody steps up and is a leader.  Your right, very young team,
but Oso, Kolek, and OMAX have been around in college for 3 years, add Wrightsil who is a senior, so they do have some age.  Can the freshman make a difference,
time will tell.  I have seen Gold play, he can play.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1131 on: October 05, 2022, 10:27:51 AM »
Justin's value can be replaced, but I don't know that Darryl's can this year. Veteran leader on both ends of the court that took games over at times offensively.

I love this roster but think we are a year or 2 away from making any noise. I'd love to be wrong but I still think it is more likely that this team misses the NIT than getting an NCAA Bid.

Jan 26 on… Morsell… 88 ORtg on 26% usage. 21% to rate. 26% from deep. Only 20% ft rate

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1132 on: October 05, 2022, 10:35:01 AM »
Jan 26 on… Morsell… 88 ORtg on 26% usage. 21% to rate. 26% from deep. Only 20% ft rate

Crown him if u must

Morsell could get into the lane and get his own shot.  Not sure Kam can but he will score as well as Morsell.  The big question I have can Sean Jones D it up
enough to play against taller Big East guards, otherwise Chase Ross who has size will have to.  I can see Ross and Jones in to play D at times.  Lots of moving
parts this year, that is why I think they will be better.

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« Reply #1133 on: October 05, 2022, 10:42:23 AM »
Historically speaking, true Freshman are pretty rarely called upon to "D it up". If we're looking for a bigger guard, I would think Ellis would be ahead of Ross in the depth chart.

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« Reply #1134 on: October 05, 2022, 10:50:02 AM »
Historically speaking, true Freshman are pretty rarely called upon to "D it up". If we're looking for a bigger guard, I would think Ellis would be ahead of Ross in the depth chart.

Ellis might not even play this year, he will be way behind when he comes back from injury.  I think he redshirts.

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« Reply #1135 on: October 05, 2022, 10:56:55 AM »
Ellis might not even play this year, he will be way behind when he comes back from injury.  I think he redshirts.

Doh, forgot about his injury.  Still think we'd be in trouble if we get to a point where both Ross and Jones are playing significant minutes, unless they break the trend of the vast majority of Freshman.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1136 on: October 05, 2022, 11:47:03 AM »
Wasn’t Mitchell called upon to play D as a true freshman just last year?

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« Reply #1137 on: October 05, 2022, 11:56:21 AM »
He did and he did it well.    And when Kam quit hitting 3's, Stevie's minutes increased.   
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« Reply #1138 on: October 05, 2022, 11:58:07 AM »
"Called upon" to be 9th in minutes? 

We had 4 Freshman last year, one cracked the top 8 in minutes.  Even if Ellis redshirts, I would expect all 6 returning players to be ahead of all of the Freshman, I would expect Wrightsil to be ahead of all of the Freshman.  Of the Freshman, I would think Keeyan gets the most minutes, both because it's a position of need (we can't go only Oso or smallball), and because he's been in the system a full year.

The thing that seems to be the case most year for Freshman is that we remember the good moments, and mostly forget about the bad. Stevie had a great game againt Butler last year, arguably the biggest reason we won, but he also put up a lot of goose eggs in single digit minutes during our winning streak. 

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1139 on: October 05, 2022, 12:01:46 PM »
I'd expect Sean Jones to play a ton, and Chase Ross to play not much at all.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1140 on: October 05, 2022, 12:02:16 PM »
Of the Freshman, I would think Keeyan gets the most minutes, both because it's a position of need (we can't go only Oso or smallball), and because he's been in the system a full year.

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For me, anything from Keeyan outside of a couple highlight reel dunks & blocks is crazy. Not banking on anything.
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« Reply #1141 on: October 05, 2022, 12:12:07 PM »
Wat

For me, anything from Keeyan outside of a couple highlight reel dunks & blocks is crazy. Not banking on anything.

So you're predicting that our two options at C are Oso and small ball? 

Last year when we had Justin to be the small ball C (better than anyone we currently have IMO), we didn't really use it that much. Kur 19 mpg, Oso 18 mpg. Even if Oso makes a significant jump we're still gonna need something from Keeyan.

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« Reply #1142 on: October 05, 2022, 12:17:31 PM »
I think Oso's minutes will usually be in the high 20's.    Injury and foul trouble being wild cards.     For the sake of argument, 12 minutes are going to be needed at the 5.    I think it will be a mix and match combo of Keeyan, Wrightsil, Gold, Omax.      Can definitely see some Wrightsil, Omax, Joplin sets.     Only having 5 guards for the foreseeable future, IMO, cuts down on the opportunities for 3 guard sets.   
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« Reply #1143 on: October 05, 2022, 01:26:11 PM »
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I agree on Keeyan. I am hoping for a few highlight reel plays and anything beyond that will be bonus.

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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1144 on: October 05, 2022, 02:26:37 PM »
https://youtu.be/BBuwKLiHi_M

Really like the Field of 68 guys. They do a lengthy BIG East preview with almost no mention of Marquette.  They do bold predictions at the end and T.O. says Kam Jones will lead the BIG East in scoring.

Overall the team itself seems to be sliding under the radar which could be good.
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« Reply #1145 on: October 05, 2022, 02:50:12 PM »
ESPN's Bracketology doesn't have much of an outlook for this team.  Not mentioned as even on the bubble.

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« Reply #1146 on: October 05, 2022, 02:51:39 PM »
https://youtu.be/BBuwKLiHi_M

Really like the Field of 68 guys. They do a lengthy BIG East preview with almost no mention of Marquette.  They do bold predictions at the end and T.O. says Kam Jones will lead the BIG East in scoring.

Overall the team itself seems to be sliding under the radar which could be good.

They usually are great. But they usually catch on to us later on in the season. It's pretty hard to project a team that lost some big pieces and will rely on others to step into bigger roles. Guess the team will have to play the games to prove they deserve being in the convo  ;D
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1147 on: October 05, 2022, 04:26:56 PM »
JayBee

I agree on Keeyan. I am hoping for a few highlight reel plays and anything beyond that will be bonus.

I have zero expectations for Keeyan.

Of course, a year ago at this time a year ago lots of us (including me) said the same about Oso.
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Re: 2022 Team Outlook
« Reply #1148 on: October 05, 2022, 04:57:14 PM »
I have zero expectations for Keeyan.

Of course, a year ago at this time a year ago lots of us (including me) said the same about Oso.

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« Reply #1149 on: October 05, 2022, 04:58:55 PM »
Well, yeah, probably after a rigorous workout.
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