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The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on December 18, 2021, 09:03:36 PM
You're being pedantic, but whatever.

Yes I am. People didn't claim he was Travis Diener. One person kinda made that comparison. Others simply said they were similar. But no one did him a disservice. He is what he is.

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 18, 2021, 09:05:56 PM
Fluff needs a hug tonight.  Lets give him one.

I could always use a hug. Who couldn't?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 18, 2021, 09:10:32 PM
Yes I am. People didn't claim he was Travis Diener. One person kinda made that comparison. Others simply said they were similar. But no one did him a disservice. He is what he is.


I apologize if you honestly believed I was suggesting that people said Tyler Kolek is the literal embodiment of Travis Diener.
But I don't for a second believe you ever thought that. You're just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
Fun times.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 18, 2021, 09:10:32 PM
I could always use a hug. Who couldn't?

I agree.  Scoop hug-fest coming to a city near you soon...

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on December 18, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
I apologize if you honestly believed I was suggesting that people said Tyler Kolek is the literal embodiment of Travis Diener.
But I don't for a second believe you ever thought that. You're just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
Fun times.

You were exaggerating and got called on it.

Instead of realizing that and moving on, you decided to double down and get called on it again.

🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 18, 2021, 09:33:19 PM
You were exaggerating and got called on it.

Instead of realizing that and moving on, you decided to double down and get called on it again.

🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️


MUBurrow

From what I've seen, Tyler Kolek can absolutely be the primary point guard on a ranked team.  And I think most here would agree with that. And I think most here would also be very happy with that in the next couple years.  So what exactly are we fighting about?


The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

panda

Quote from: MUDPT on December 18, 2021, 10:04:52 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/1472329432287391744

You're really exposing yourself as a basketball no nothing if you can't see the value Kolek brings to this team.

But he can't shoot !

forgetful

He's leading the BE in assists per game. He is a Big East caliber PG, and he is new to that role.

While he still has places he needs to improve, they are areas he has shown himself capable in the past. I think we still have a good one (already this year), and he can only improve from here.

Those not recognizing his value need to open their eyes.

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

Quote from: TrojanWarrior on December 18, 2021, 07:35:43 PM
Pakuni, you nailed it. Thank you, Sir.

If you think Pakuni agreed with you, you either can't read or you're just being disingenuous.

Or maybe just being a lawyer, and not a very good one.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Quote from: Jockey on December 18, 2021, 06:37:40 PM
Kolek WAS set - but you have to give the offensive player room to land when he goes in the air to catch a pass. It was a good call.

Yep, if that's the play Ners was talking about, he's wrong and you're right. 99 out of 100 refs would call that the exact way it was called, and the other would have missed the call.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Elonsmusk

Quote from: MU82 on December 18, 2021, 11:16:37 PM
Yep, if that's the play Ners was talking about, he's wrong and you're right. 99 out of 100 refs would call that the exact way it was called, and the other would have missed the call.

The X player caught the ball and was given space to land as Jockey said.  He landed, turned and then bowled over Kolek.  Thus, Jockey contradicted himself.  99 out of 100?  Come on man.  That's a 50/50 call at best.  But if you want to just argue to argue, which I know you like to do...that's cool.

panda

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 19, 2021, 12:07:31 AM
The X player caught the ball and was given space to land as Jockey said.  He landed, turned and then bowled over Kolek.  Thus, Jockey contradicted himself.  99 out of 100?  Come on man.  That's a 50/50 call at best.  But if you want to just argue to argue, which I know you like to do...that's cool.

I don't think he was given space to land.

The Sultan

I don't think it was a foul.  He flopped.  And it was a dumb thing to do because he already had two fouls.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 18, 2021, 05:36:40 PM
I've read some dumb things here.  This ranks among the dumbest.

Agree,  the sole purpose of this thread was to troll.

Pakuni

Quote from: forgetful on December 18, 2021, 10:14:52 PM
He's leading the BE in assists per game. He is a Big East caliber PG, and he is new to that role.

While he still has places he needs to improve, they are areas he has shown himself capable in the past. I think we still have a good one (already this year), and he can only improve from here.

Those not recognizing his value need to open their eyes.

Kolek is very good when he's running the offense and creating shots for his teammates.
He struggles mightily when he tries to create shots for himself (see: team worst eFG% of .341, and team worst TS% of .393).
His focus should be on what he does well.

The Sultan

He had a couple of nice shots in the rhythm of the offense yesterday.  Those were nice even if they didn't all go down.

As I said in the post-game thread, his taking a three with little ball movement late was the beginning of the end though.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

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Quote from: Pakuni on December 19, 2021, 07:56:30 AM
Kolek is very good when he's running the offense and creating shots for his teammates.
He struggles mightily when he tries to create shots for himself (see: team worst eFG% of .341, and team worst TS% of .393).
His focus should be on what he does well.




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"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

TAMU, Knower of Ball

This is an odd time to start this thread. I know that late three point attempt was dumb but other than that I thought he played a solid game. 57% efg%, 8 points, 7 assists, 2 steals, and 3 turns in 22 minutes is a line I would take most nights.
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tower912

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Lennys Tap

If Kolek is an A10 level PG we are in big trouble, since 2 of our starters are a level below him.

Elonsmusk

Kolek's 3 pt shot down 72-69 wasn't a bad shot as some here have suggested.  Shaka liked it.  He had a good look.  Shaka sees him shoot on a daily basis.  He'd made two 3's already in the game.  His look was a cleaner look than the rushed one Elliott took down 70-69, which I didn't mind that shot either.  Can't make em all.

The Sultan

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 19, 2021, 10:34:39 AM
Kolek's 3 pt shot down 72-69 wasn't a bad shot as some here have suggested.  Shaka liked it.  He had a good look.  Shaka sees him shoot on a daily basis.  He'd made two 3's already in the game.  His look was a cleaner look than the rushed one Elliott took down 70-69, which I didn't mind that shot either.  Can't make em all.


It was a terrible shot. They had been patient and breaking the defense down, and he took a three point shot off the dribble (definitely not his strength) early in the clock.  Elliott had hit multiple shots off the same motion so I was fine with that one.

I like Kolek. I like Shaka for protecting him. But that was a poor choice. It happens.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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