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cheebs09

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 30, 2022, 11:38:55 AM
https://twitter.com/diluvsthebrew/status/1564423502572167168

In case Mark is a scooper, my condolences

Yeesh. That's like a villain origin story type of stuff. Let's hope Mark doesn't turn to a life of dentistry.

JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on August 30, 2022, 12:21:31 PM
Yeesh. That's like a villain origin story type of stuff. Let's hope Mark doesn't turn to a life of dentistry.


Dickthedribbler

Raise your hand if you've never been on the receiving end of one of these pieces of news(although probably not on a stadium scoreboard).

MU82

It was probably true awhile back, but now it's really the case: Time for the White Sox to take their manager's lead and go into hibernation for the offseason.

The most disappointing White Sox team in many years.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

I don't know exactly what TLR's issue is (I've heard rumors), but he will not manage another game for the Sox (I've heard through back channels).


Shaka Shart

Are the rumors health related? Or no
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 31, 2022, 02:40:40 PM
I don't know exactly what TLR's issue is (I've heard rumors), but he will not manage another game for the Sox (I've heard through back channels).

Yeah, after making my post, I saw on the ESPN crawl that LaRussa was stepping away or whatever. I don't doubt what you say is true.

LaRussa is a proud guy (many would even say vain). He doesn't want to have to make Reinsdorf fire him.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

Quote from: ZaLiN on August 31, 2022, 02:46:25 PM
Are the rumors health related? Or no

It's public now, but TLR had chest pains in his office pre-game yesterday.

The Sultan

So they basically wasted almost two seasons with this promising young core because Jerry wanted to hire the guy he regretted firing 30 years ago.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Shaka Shart

Absolutely. You are forgetting how many years Garpax had with the Bulls because they were "Jerry's guys"
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

PGsHeroes32

deGrom is insane and just a blast to watch.

Dodgers are making better contact(relative to teams vs deGrom) with 6 ks in 5 innings.

Issue is you may wanna K more. Innings 2-4 he threw 28 pitches total.

This may be the start the Mets let him extend a little more.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 31, 2022, 03:46:13 PM
So they basically wasted almost two seasons with this promising young core because Jerry wanted to hire the guy he regretted firing 30 years ago.

Hawk Harrelson will be the next manager. You can put it on the board!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on August 31, 2022, 07:27:31 PM
Hawk Harrelson will be the next manager. You can put it on the board!

Ozzie.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

The irony of the ineveitable Correa opt out is all of Minnesota is praying for it.

If this dude couldnt get a good long term deal last year, he might get Nick Punto money this offseason.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

CreightonWarrior

Its pretty fascinating that Angel Hernandez still believes that the MLB is shutting him out of umpiring World Series games. I have no idea what world this guy lives on.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34497311/mlb-argues-umpire-angel-hernandez-3-overturned-calls-2018-alds-cost-world-series-spot

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on August 31, 2022, 10:07:30 PM
The irony of the ineveitable Correa opt out is all of Minnesota is praying for it.

If this dude couldnt get a good long term deal last year, he might get Nick Punto money this offseason.

He will still get $25MM+.  He's had a meh year for him, but other than his slugging, his numbers aren't THAT bad.  GG caliber SSs who have career OPS near .850 don't grow on trees.  He's still I think 7th in WAR for SS.

wadesworld

Quote from: JWags85 on September 01, 2022, 09:13:33 AM
He will still get $25MM+.  He's had a meh year for him, but other than his slugging, his numbers aren't THAT bad.  GG caliber SSs who have career OPS near .850 don't grow on trees.  He's still I think 7th in WAR for SS.

Yeah.  He'd be about the second best offensive player on the Brewers roster, and is very good defensively.

Dish

The problem for Correa is the glut of premier SS that'll be on the market again.

Turner, Swanson, Bogaerts, Correa will all be on the market. Volpe will probably be the Yankees SS next year.

Atlanta May move Grissom to SS. Boston has given every indication they don't want to pay anyone.

Cubs/Dodgers may have a buyers market at SS this offseason.

wadesworld

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BYSp2pzP0Y&t=76s

This is awesome.  Hope the Mets make a run in the Playoffs.

JWags85

Quote from: wadesworld on September 01, 2022, 09:56:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BYSp2pzP0Y&t=76s

This is awesome.  Hope the Mets make a run in the Playoffs.

Even more awesome considering the leverage of the situation.  Up a run against the 2-3-4 hitters of the best team in baseball.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on September 01, 2022, 09:13:33 AM
He will still get $25MM+.  He's had a meh year for him, but other than his slugging, his numbers aren't THAT bad.  GG caliber SSs who have career OPS near .850 don't grow on trees.  He's still I think 7th in WAR for SS.

The issue this year isnt just the slugging being down, its that he has quite literally zero memorable moments this year. Like not one clutch hit. Everything is like last night.

The D is elite.

But numbers wise hes basically Gio Urshela this year. Only issue is Urshela isnt getting paid like a superstar and Urshela has no joke like 10 absolutely massive knocks this year.

Correa is definitely a good leader though. But hes basically Buxton in key spots with Ks and lack of advancing runners. And unlike Buxton he doesnt run into the occaisional ball for walk off tanks.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on September 01, 2022, 11:25:16 AM
The issue this year isnt just the slugging being down, its that he has quite literally zero memorable moments this year. Like not one clutch hit. Everything is like last night.

The D is elite.

But numbers wise hes basically Gio Urshela this year. Only issue is Urshela isnt getting paid like a superstar and Urshela has no joke like 10 absolutely massive knocks this year.

Correa is definitely a good leader though. But hes basically Buxton in key spots with Ks and lack of advancing runners. And unlike Buxton he doesnt run into the occaisional ball for walk off tanks.

Thats silly eye test stuff.

Correa has notably better OBP/OPS, almost double the walks, bunch less strikeouts and nearly double the OWAR...in a down year offensively for him.  I get the frustation with a Twins team that should be a lot better, but Correa is far from the issue.  Most of that starting lineup outside of Arriez and Gordon has underachieved worse than him

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JWags85 on September 01, 2022, 12:14:32 PM
Thats silly eye test stuff.

Correa has notably better OBP/OPS, almost double the walks, bunch less strikeouts and nearly double the OWAR...in a down year offensively for him.  I get the frustation with a Twins team that should be a lot better, but Correa is far from the issue.  Most of that starting lineup outside of Arriez and Gordon has underachieved worse than him

I mean Correa draws more walks thats really the difference there in OBP/OPS.

And the clutch contributions are not eye test. Gio simply has been the guy to do it. And dont get me wrong, can't be mailing in ABs at any time. But Correas damage has been done mostly in the first 2 at bats of a game.

Its ironic that I am comparing these two guys as well. Because they both hit into an obnoxious amount of DPs

Obviously the punto contract thing was insansely hyperbolic in the moment. But Correa has not produced his weight.

Defense and mostly being out there everyday(unlike Buxton) are his two biggest attributes.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Joe Maddon (as told to the Tampa Bay Times):

"When people keep blaming the dugout for a lot of the things they're seeing, they need to understand they shouldn't be doing that. Because the manager has so many voices in the back of his head by the time the game begins, it's not his game like it had been. It's absolutely the front office's game."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on September 01, 2022, 08:01:08 PM
Joe Maddon (as told to the Tampa Bay Times):

"When people keep blaming the dugout for a lot of the things they're seeing, they need to understand they shouldn't be doing that. Because the manager has so many voices in the back of his head by the time the game begins, it's not his game like it had been. It's absolutely the front office's game."

There are few 'real' managers anymore.

Dusty, Showalter, Roberts. Hard to think of more.

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