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shoothoops

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Quote from: MUBurrow on August 02, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
From the rumors it looks like the ask was Walker, Carlson, and Gorman? I don't know much about Walker, and Gorman might be good though he reminds me of Dan Uggla.  I would bet money Carlson will always be a fringy third outfielder type. [edited because i called him a third-and-a-half OFer, and upon further review I think he's just more of a low end starter]

Carlson is pretty good, former Texas League Player of the year. He is excelling in CF. He also happens to be the only healthy Cards OF. The Nats liked him a lot. Walker is very good, and advanced for his age. Cards have him for 6 years of control. (He's the player the Cards wanted to keep the most.)

Would have been helpful to have had healthier Bader, O'Neill to add in possible trades. The other name of higher interest to teams is Masyn Winn, a SS.

Now with the Giants possibly being sellers, Cards are targeting Rodon. (possible package with Pederson) as well as Eovaldi in Boston.



DegenerateDish

Most fans don't know this, but the White Sox had verbally agreed to a deal with Juan Soto when he was an international free agent in 2015. The Nationals were scouting Soto, heard about the Sox offer, and offered $100k more, and Soto ended up with Washington.

The other player the Sox signed that same international signing period? Tatis Jr.

Jockey

Anyone hear if LaRussa has awakened from his nap in the dugout last night?

JWags85

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 02, 2022, 02:54:19 PM
Most fans don't know this, but the White Sox had verbally agreed to a deal with Juan Soto when he was an international free agent in 2015. The Nationals were scouting Soto, heard about the Sox offer, and offered $100k more, and Soto ended up with Washington.

The other player the Sox signed that same international signing period? Tatis Jr.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 02, 2022, 02:54:19 PM
Most fans don't know this, but the White Sox had verbally agreed to a deal with Juan Soto when he was an international free agent in 2015. The Nationals were scouting Soto, heard about the Sox offer, and offered $100k more, and Soto ended up with Washington.

The other player the Sox signed that same international signing period? Tatis Jr.

We turned Juan Soto and Fernando Tatis Jr. into an over the hill James Shields - Kenny Williams is some magician, a'ina?

shoothoops

Quote from: shoothoops on August 02, 2022, 02:28:57 PM
Carlson is pretty good, former Texas League Player of the year. He is excelling in CF. He also happens to be the only healthy Cards OF. The Nats liked him a lot. Walker is very good, and advanced for his age. Cards have him for 6 years of control. (He's the player the Cards wanted to keep the most.)

Would have been helpful to have had healthier Bader, O'Neill to add in possible trades. The other name of higher interest to teams is Masyn Winn, a SS.

Now with the Giants possibly being sellers, Cards are targeting Rodon. (possible package with Pederson) as well as Eovaldi in Boston.

It's Montgomery, for Bader.


Hards Alumni

https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/1554909358949031942

QuoteRHP Dinelson Lamet and C Pedro Severino designated for assignment.

RHP Peter Strzelecki optioned to Triple-A Nashville.

https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/1554909154489368577?cxt=HHwWgoC8tejokpQrAAAA

QuoteRHP Freddy Peralta reinstated from the 60-day injured list.

RHP Matt Bush added to the active roster.

INF Keston Hiura recalled from Triple-A Nashville.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 03, 2022, 04:02:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/1554909358949031942

https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/1554909154489368577?cxt=HHwWgoC8tejokpQrAAAA

The replies freaking out about the Lamet DFA are hilarious.  The guy has given up 16 hits and 13 earned in 12 IP so far this year.  Might as well freak out about Trevor Rosenthal not being on the active roster.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MUBurrow on August 03, 2022, 04:53:27 PM
The replies freaking out about the Lamet DFA are hilarious.  The guy has given up 16 hits and 13 earned in 12 IP so far this year.  Might as well freak out about Trevor Rosenthal not being on the active roster.

Brewers fans embarrass me almost as much as Packers fans
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.


BM1090

Quote from: wadesworld on August 03, 2022, 10:08:24 PM
Good start.

I've bet on the brewers twice this year. Once was when Hader lost his 40 game scoreless streak. The second was live tonight after they went down 5-4. If there are any relievers you want me to jinx, just shoot me a message.

CreightonWarrior

JBJ cut by the Red Sox today so that trade was a W for the crew.

CreightonWarrior

Not a great couple days for the revamped bullpen.

Jockey

Brewers were walking a fine line already. Now that the pen is in disarray, it's wide open for the Cards. They don't have the hitting to overcome a now non-dominant bullpen. There will be no wild card either.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

I am not saying this is the right way to look at it, but unless someone goes on a run, there are seven teams chasing six spots. I think their entire organizational goal is to get into the playoffs and hope to get hot there. I think they thought this was a good risk to take - I am not sure it was but time will tell.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

BM1090

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 04, 2022, 04:48:17 PM
I am not saying this is the right way to look at it, but unless someone goes on a run, there are seven teams chasing six spots. I think their entire organizational goal is to get into the playoffs and hope to get hot there. I think they thought this was a good risk to take - I am not sure it was but time will tell.

I understand the move. I actually agree with it. But they clearly underestimated the impact it would have on the clubhouse.

They'll figure it out.

Hards Alumni

Are the Brewers the Dodgers, Giants, Mets or Yankees?  They're not, so getting value from a guy that was going to be too expensive at the end of this year is a great move.

Does it hurt now?  Sure, but there are five games of numbers to work with.  Let's let the dust settle before the season is considered a failure. 

And even if they make the playoffs... They don't have the team to advance.

Jockey

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 04, 2022, 04:48:17 PM
I am not saying this is the right way to look at it, but unless someone goes on a run, there are seven teams chasing six spots. I think their entire organizational goal is to get into the playoffs and hope to get hot there. I think they thought this was a good risk to take - I am not sure it was but time will tell.

I totally understand why they made the move. Small market teams HAVE to do this sort of thing. It will probably be  benefit down the road as they only would have had him for 1 more year anyway, but they are a much weaker team than they were on Sunday.

MuggsyB

A T206 Honus Wagner card just sold for 7.25 mill.  Congrats to Scooper that snagged it. 

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Jockey on August 04, 2022, 06:03:38 PM
I totally understand why they made the move. Small market teams HAVE to do this sort of thing. It will probably be  benefit down the road as they only would have had him for 1 more year anyway, but they are a much weaker team than they were on Sunday.

SmAlL mArKeT!!

God, does anyone ever stop with this argument

PGsHeroes32

The AL Central is a complete joke. Unbelievable.

Baldelli just going to continue putting Pagan out there in games that are close or tied.

YOU CAN STILL BLOW GAMES IN THE 6th YOU IDIOT. Doesnt matter if hes not the closer any more. Stop pitching him with a 1 run lead, its that simple.

Twins went 23-8 for a month stretch in April to late May.

They are 32-42 otherwise. Can Baldelli, DFA Pagan.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: #Unleash? on August 04, 2022, 11:04:22 PM
SmAlL mArKeT!!

God, does anyone ever stop with this argument

I mean despite recent success, they are still considered one of the least valuable franchises in baseball with one of the lowest local revenue deals. Could they afford more?  No doubt. But they don't want rebuilds.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on August 05, 2022, 04:54:14 AM
I mean despite recent success, they are still considered one of the least valuable franchises in baseball with one of the lowest local revenue deals. Could they afford more?  No doubt. But they don't want rebuilds.

Brewers whiny portion of the fanbase has become insufferable and embarrassing.  Before the ASB, they were already predicting doom and gloom and calling for the team to sell, especially Hader.  I hope they completely collapse and they decide to start from scratch like the Pirates.  Sell Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta the whole kitchen sink and run a triple-A team out there and scatter in some vets like Ben Gamel.  A good chunk of this fanbase deserves that. 

I though a lot of Marquette fans were only happy when they were mad.  Brewers fans are lapping them.  Must be a Milwaukee adjacent thing
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 05, 2022, 06:25:11 AM
Brewers whiny portion of the fanbase has become insufferable and embarrassing.  Before the ASB, they were already predicting doom and gloom and calling for the team to sell, especially Hader.  I hope they completely collapse and they decide to start from scratch like the Pirates.  Sell Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta the whole kitchen sink and run a triple-A team out there and scatter in some vets like Ben Gamel.  A good chunk of this fanbase deserves that. 

I though a lot of Marquette fans were only happy when they were mad.  Brewers fans are lapping them.  Must be a Milwaukee adjacent thing


Yep. Last year they won 95 games, had the second seed in the NL, and lost to a hot Braves team that went on to win the World Series. I understand the playoffs have expanded, but they have made them just as much in the last four years as the rest of the franchise's seasons combined. And have lost to the eventual WS champion in the last three years.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.