2022 MLB Thread

[BrewCity83]

They're gonna need a minimum of 3 weeks of spring training.  To start the season on time, that puts a settlement deadline at about March 10, so they've still got about 3 weeks to get a deal done.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yes!
And post-COVID MLB can't afford to miss games and piss off fans.

They'd be luckly to merely "piss off" the fans.  I would be more concerned about fan apathy from the non-hardcores.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

When I read articles like this, I don't see the owners willing to compromise very much.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-lockout-theres-no-way-to-force-team-owners-to-put-wins-over-dollars-015040077.html

[MU82]

Juan Soto reportedly turned down a 13-year, $350 million contract from the Nats just before the lockout began.

And the crazy thing is ... that was probably a smart decision.

[Jockey]

They're gonna need a minimum of 3 weeks of spring training.  To start the season on time, that puts a settlement deadline at about March 10, so they've still got about 3 weeks to get a deal done.

They don’t have that much time. If there is no deal by March 1, the season will be delayed.

[Jockey]

They'd be luckly to merely "piss off" the fans.  I would be more concerned about fan apathy from the non-hardcores.

I think things may have changed to where they need to worry about apathy from hardcore fans.

It won’t be just the delay. It’s also about MLB’s refusal to even attempt to deal with problems like 3.5 - 4 hour games among other problems.

[shoothoops]

One more day until NCAA Baseball Opening Day.

[🏀]

You guys think there's going to be a full season?

Okay...

[Lennys Tap]

I think things may have changed to where they need to worry about apathy from hardcore fans.

It won’t be just the delay. It’s also about MLB’s refusal to even attempt to deal with problems like 3.5 - 4 hour games among other problems.

Didn’t MLB announce recently that they would no longer be testing for steroids? Maybe that’s the plan to win back fans.

[🏀]

Didn’t MLB announce recently that they would no longer be testing for steroids? Maybe that’s the plan to win back fans.

They cannot test during the lockout because there's no JDA.

[BrewCity83]

You guys think there's going to be a full season?

Okay...

Still hopeful.  Just sayin' that there's still time to get it done.  Not counting on it though.

[Jockey]

You guys think there's going to be a full season?

Okay...

I absolutely do not.

[tower912]

I agree.   And it is a conscious choice by the owners to not have it.   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

And this is what the MLBPA needs to understand, and probably does understand but its still too early.  The owners are going to win this.  The owners usually do.  They have more money and more leverage.  They will throw the players a couple of bones, but will end up with the sweeter end of the deal.

[MU82]

One more day until NCAA Baseball Opening Day.

Hey, thanks for this. I'm meeting my brother in AZ for a few days of good food, good beer, good hikes, bad golf and some NCAA hoops-watching. We also were hoping to catch a ballgame or two. After reading this, I checked ASU's baseball schedule and they have a homestand at the exact time we'll be there. So if MLB locks us out, we'll go catch a college game. Maybe we'll decide to catch a college game even in the unlikely event that there are MLB spring games.

[BrewCity83]

If MLB drags its feet too long, this may be the year to dive in to college ball.  ESPN is streaming 2000 games plus 200 more on TV:  https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2022/02/college-baseball-back-in-full-swing-with-2200-games-across-espn-networks-for-2022-season/

[shoothoops]

If MLB drags its feet too long, this may be the year to dive in to college ball.  ESPN is streaming 2000 games plus 200 more on TV:  https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2022/02/college-baseball-back-in-full-swing-with-2200-games-across-espn-networks-for-2022-season/

You don’t have to wait long.

Tomorrow, using your linked rankings, (there are several different college baseball rankings) #7 Oklahoma State opens a 3 game series at #3 Vandy. Former Vandy assistant Josh Holliday going up against close friend Tim Corbin. There are other good matchups too.

College Baseball is great fun. You can often watch 4 games a week of your favorite team.

[MU82]

MLB says a deal has to get done by Feb. 28 for there to be a full season.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2022/02/17/mlb-lockout-news-players-union-rob-manfred/6833519001/

Major League Baseball negotiators walked out of Thursday's bargaining session with the players union after only 15 minutes, angry over the union’s latest proposal, leaving the scheduled start of the regular season in serious jeopardy.

MLB has informed the players union that a deal must struck by Feb. 28 to preserve the start of the regular season on March 31. The union, incensed that the lockout was implemented in the first place, blames MLB for the slow-moving negotiations.

Considering the two sides remain so far apart, particularly on the luxury tax threshold and penalties, any previous optimism is rapidly waning.

One person with direct knowledge of the negotiations predicts that the lockout could now extend until at least mid-March, which would all but guarantee the 162-game season would be shortened, providing the season is not extended into mid-November.

[Jockey]

Early ST games cancelled.

[tower912]

I feel like Ukraine and Russia are going to work out a deal before the MLB owners and players.   

[Jockey]

I feel like Ukraine and Russia are going to work out a deal before the MLB owners and players.

I've always thought May 1 was the target date for owners. A small minority is all that's needed to scuttle a deal.

I wonder how long before Manfred officially starts cancelling regular season games.

[PGsHeroes32]

I've always thought May 1 was the target date for owners. A small minority is all that's needed to scuttle a deal.

I wonder how long before Manfred officially starts cancelling regular season games.

Tonight

[Jockey]

Just cancelled 1st week of regular season. I expect we will see a lot more of these.

Owners don't want anyone else shaking their money trees.

[MU82]

Shocking.

[DegenerateDish]

No major sport cares less about its fans than MLB. I wish there was a productive way to strike back as a fan, but I know it’s not realistic.