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jficke13

Probably not a frequent enough matchup for random variability to make it happen often. Only like 10 teams have finished over .700 on the season.

As to it being a silly stat to track, my guess is less that it was something that's actively tracked, and more just that the database software is designed to track *everything* and then spit out weird confluences. That's how you'll get goofy twitter headlines like "First player with an X in his first and last name to reach base via catcher's interference" or some equivalent nonsense.

MU82

Quote from: jficke13 on July 15, 2022, 12:25:23 PM
Probably not a frequent enough matchup for random variability to make it happen often. Only like 10 teams have finished over .700 on the season.

As to it being a silly stat to track, my guess is less that it was something that's actively tracked, and more just that the database software is designed to track *everything* and then spit out weird confluences. That's how you'll get goofy twitter headlines like "First player with an X in his first and last name to reach base via catcher's interference" or some equivalent nonsense.

Yes, that all makes sense.

My son and I have a running conversation in which we text each other anytime we see those dopey stats packages that ESPN seems to love:

Joe Blow is the first MLB player in 35 years with 2,600 hits, 350 doubles and 275 stolen bases.

Good for Joe!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Mutaman

Quote from: MU82 on July 15, 2022, 11:19:21 AM
Wow.

And by that I don't mean, "Wow, that's amazing." I mean, "Wow, what a silly stat to track."

If you're a fan of the Redlegs, you take what you can get.

lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on July 15, 2022, 12:31:31 PM
Yes, that all makes sense.

My son and I have a running conversation in which we text each other anytime we see those dopey stats packages that ESPN seems to love:

Joe Blow is the first MLB player in 35 years with 2,600 hits, 350 doubles and 275 stolen bases.

Good for Joe!
Along the same vein, I hate it when sportscasters say something like "Player X is making history.". Well, technically, everyone is making history, some just may be more memorable.

PBRme

Quote from: Mutaman on July 14, 2022, 10:32:12 PM
@StatsBySTATS
: this is only the 6th time in MLB history that a sub-.400 team won a road series vs a .700+ team (min 50 games into the season)

1906 Superbas/Cubs
1928 Tigers/Yankees
1939 Browns/Yankees
1955 Pirates/Dodgers
2001 Royals/Mariners
2022 Reds/Yanks

The most amazing thing about this stat is the Cubs were over 700 50 games into the season
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Jockey

Quote from: Mutaman on July 15, 2022, 03:03:17 PM
If you're a fan of the Redlegs, you take what you can get.

Must have been a big fan of Pinson, Robinson, Bilko, Nuxhall, etc.?

Mutaman

Quote from: Jockey on July 15, 2022, 03:12:28 PM
Must have been a big fan of Pinson, Robinson, Bilko, Nuxhall, etc.?

JB #5.
Saw Pinson play in Wausau when he was 17 years old.   Guy could run like the wind.

Mutaman

Quote from: PBRme on July 15, 2022, 03:12:21 PM
The most amazing thing about this stat is the Cubs were over 700 50 games into the season

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

lawdog77

Quote from: Mutaman on July 15, 2022, 03:18:16 PM
JB #5.
Saw Pinson play in Wausau when he was 17 years old.   Guy could run like the wind.
Pinson was a very underrated player, IMO. Very close to the 300-300 club, along with 100+ triples, and pretty close to 3000 hits.

MU82

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 15, 2022, 03:08:31 PM
Along the same vein, I hate it when sportscasters say something like "Player X is making history.". Well, technically, everyone is making history, some just may be more memorable.

Exactly. And I really hate it when they call something a "record" that isn't a record at all.

Being the youngest player with 140 HR, 90 doubles and 35 sacrifice flies isn't a "record," it's a mishmash of stats.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 15, 2022, 03:29:24 PM
Pinson was a very underrated player, IMO. Very close to the 300-300 club, along with 100+ triples, and pretty close to 3000 hits.

I think what hurts him is that he was so good as a young player, but then really leveled off by his mid-late 20s.

Mutaman

Quote from: Jockey on July 15, 2022, 04:32:57 PM
I think what hurts him is that he was so good as a young player, but then really leveled off by his mid-late 20s.

Exactly. He hit over 300 4 times by the time he was 26 (including his incredible year in 61 when he and Frankie led the Reds to the pennant) and then he never hit over 290 after that. Something happened to him physically I think.

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MUfan12

I don't know what Counsell's deal is this season but he's being incredibly stubborn. Had to go get Hader after the second dinger.

Something's not right with this team and for the first time in seven years I'm wondering if it has to do with the manager.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Giving up 6 earned in 18 pitches is impressively bad. One at bat accounted for a third of those, the rest were all 1, 2, or 3 pitch at bats.
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4everwarriors

Peddle his ass, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

cheebs09

Quote from: MUfan12 on July 16, 2022, 01:04:38 AM
I don't know what Counsell's deal is this season but he's being incredibly stubborn. Had to go get Hader after the second dinger.

Something's not right with this team and for the first time in seven years I'm wondering if it has to do with the manager.

Which is weird because he was on the leading edge of bullpen management early on. Maybe guys really like the defined roles and he's changed to that the last few years.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 16, 2022, 05:15:48 AM
Peddle his ass, aina?

He's only signed through this year and Boxberger could probably take over... but what do you expect to get for a closer that is having problems and a half of a year left on his contract?

The Sultan

To be honest Hader seems not himself since the baby was born. Wonder if that's just a coincidence or there are some issues there.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: User Name #251 on July 16, 2022, 11:04:14 AM
To be honest Hader seems not himself since the baby was born. Wonder if that's just a coincidence or there are some issues there.

Being a new parent can be distracting enough, but you add the fairly serious complications his wife had towards the end of pregnancy and I can see him not totally being all there mentally.  Which is totally understandable, especially for something like a closer which is high stress and very mental.

tower912

With these guys, they only have to be off by a millimeter.   It could be as basic as changed sleep patterns at home putting him off by .01%.    Or his release point being off by a whisker because he whacked his toe in the middle of the night.
Other than Rivera, relievers go through bad streaks.   And generally do not have a long life span as a closer.   
For the Brewer's sake, I hope he works through it.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

nyg

OK, Juan Soto just turned down a $440 million 15 year contract.  That is $29 million a year for 15 years and he is 23 years old.

This is third offer Nats have made in last month or so because the Lerner family is going to sell the team and wanted potential buyers to have Soto as face of the franchise for years to come.

Now the Nats have come out and said Soto is here for the taking.  Oh my..... He is free agent after next season. 

Nats are a sinking ship and the hole is getting bigger.  They won the World Series a few years ago, but did not sign or traded all the stars.

Harper - did not get him signed as free agent, but won WS without him
Rendon - did not get to sign as free agent
Scherzer - did not get to sign as free agent
Trea Turner - traded
Schwarber - one year star, traded.
Strasburg - signed a $245 million contract and has pitched like 10 innings in past three years since signing
Michael Taylor - traded

So lets see who has the stock to trade for Soto, could be huge. 

rocket surgeon

hitting 247 with 19 dings at the halfway mark of season today puts you into uber superstar status? 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

JWags85

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on July 16, 2022, 03:25:10 PM
hitting 247 with 19 dings at the halfway mark of season today puts you into uber superstar status?

He's top 15 in HRs, leading the MLB in walks by almost 50% more than 2nd place, top 20 in SLG, top 20 in WAR, strikes out half as much as Aaron Judge...all while having an uncharicteristally low average for someone who lead the league in average 2 seasons ago and hits nearly .300 for his career.  He finished top 10 in MVP voting the last 3 years, top 5 the last 2.

Imagine thinking pure average through 80 games of a 550+game career, thus far, is the end all be all.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on July 16, 2022, 03:25:10 PM
hitting 247 with 19 dings at the halfway mark of season today puts you into uber superstar status?

Batting average??  😂
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