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Author Topic: Get Rid of the Charge  (Read 5785 times)

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2023, 04:12:53 PM »

Not to the degree you are saying but do you think it is called a lot tighter during the NCAA tournament and pre conference games like Hurley said in his presser?  Hurley made mention that he won’t be nearly as concerned in March about getting calls or the physical play.  Basically said many of his younger guys weren’t strong enough and didn’t have freedom of movement from being held and grabbed in conference games.

Do you think this is a correct theory?  Or does it just seem that way when another teams guards are simply more aggressive and stronger.

Seeing that the providence game was the only game (going off memory) where there was a big foul discrepancy, this seems to be more whining by hurley than anything.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2023, 05:44:49 PM »
I don't feel like this year it's any different or worse regarding charges. There's always going to be subjectivity/bias in calls with a wide variety of refs. It's part of the game, unfortunately.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2023, 06:31:55 PM »
My only complaint about the refs was Hurley didn’t get T’d up. When I saw Driscoll, I thought it was going to be a sure thing.

No instance that he should have gotten one, but for me Danny Hurley didn’t live up to the hype.
Did you watch on TV, or live? There was a call Hurley disputed with Driscoll, then it went to commercial. Hurley spent half the break going at Driscoll while his assistants ran the huddle until one came to get him away. I really thought he was trying to get the T there.
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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2023, 06:55:32 PM »
Did you watch on TV, or live? There was a call Hurley disputed with Driscoll, then it went to commercial. Hurley spent half the break going at Driscoll while his assistants ran the huddle until one came to get him away. I really thought he was trying to get the T there.

Yea, actually had a pretty good view of that one. I thought when he went back out there, he was going to get a T. It was relatively calm, but he lingered awhile.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2023, 06:59:11 PM »
Yea, actually had a pretty good view of that one. I thought when he went back out there, he was going to get a T. It was relatively calm, but he lingered awhile.

His initial reaction, the length, and it being Driscoll, I really thought it was coming. Still a bit surprised he got out without one with that crew.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2023, 07:01:47 PM »
His initial reaction, the length, and it being Driscoll, I really thought it was coming. Still a bit surprised he got out without one with that crew.

He was yelling across the court at O’Connell, during OMax’s first free throws of the game, which I thought was obnoxious. Could hear it in the opposite corner where our seats are.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2023, 07:06:53 PM »
I would like charges to be just turnovers with no personal foul given.


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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #57 on: January 12, 2023, 08:03:36 PM »
He was yelling across the court at O’Connell, during OMax’s first free throws of the game, which I thought was obnoxious. Could hear it in the opposite corner where our seats are.

Can confirm,  he was loud and obnoxious during those FTs. I've never actually heard a coach yelling during an opponents FTs before
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #58 on: January 12, 2023, 08:23:04 PM »
He was yelling across the court at O’Connell, during OMax’s first free throws of the game, which I thought was obnoxious. Could hear it in the opposite corner where our seats are.

Brian looked like he wasn't having it. He seemed overall annoyed with Hurley most of the game.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2023, 10:22:21 PM »
I would like charges to be just turnovers with no personal foul given.

Yeah, I have thought that for a long time. Also think there should be either an enlarged protected area-maybe even all of the paint- for the driving ball handler or tougher requirements for a charging call so that the guy trying to draw the charge is making a risky bet by trying to get the call.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2023, 07:25:34 AM »
How about a good, old-fashioned 3 seconds call?

Absolutely yes to the 3 second call.  Seems to have gone the way traveling did in the NBA, although they have picked up on that a bit recently.  The 3 sec call could greatly benefit us as well.  But not for that, it’s a rule that’s been kinda forgotten. 
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2023, 08:10:24 PM »
Just not defense.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2023, 08:14:23 PM »
Call it more but call it correctly.   Chicken wings, hooks, clear outs, absolutely.   It was  a 50-50 call on Ross.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2023, 08:18:44 PM »
Draw more fouls drive drive

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2023, 08:33:15 PM »
Moore’s head down drive running through OMax is much more of what a “charge” should be than a defender running under a player jumping for a layup or dunk.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2023, 08:36:52 PM »
The calls on Chase and OMax were both bad. Worst calls of the half.
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« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2023, 08:59:56 PM »
And what Moore just did was way more of what a “charge” should be than a defender running under a guy driving in for a shot attempt.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2023, 10:38:41 PM »
Call it more but call it correctly.   Chicken wings, hooks, clear outs, absolutely.   It was  a 50-50 call on Ross.

Watch it again, tower. The defender started falling backward before Ross even touched him, and the defender leaned just a little bit with Ross on the side of him. Worst call of the game. Thankfully, it didn't matter in the big picture.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2023, 11:39:07 PM »
Call it more but call it correctly.   Chicken wings, hooks, clear outs, absolutely.   It was  a 50-50 call on Ross.

It was such a 50/50 call two different refs called two different things.
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2023, 09:32:08 AM »
It was such a 50/50 call two different refs called two different things.

Feels like the charge call always wins out in those scenarios.

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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2023, 09:56:17 AM »
The calls on Chase and OMax were both bad. Worst calls of the half.

  ya gotta think the refs had the foul discrepancy in the back(or front) of their minds here otherwise it was starting to look like us at providence.  nova was playing pretty aggressive. 
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Re: Get Rid of the Charge
« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2023, 01:30:13 PM »
Bump
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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2023, 01:30:56 PM »
Yes. Trash basketball.
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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2023, 01:50:31 PM »
Quit extending your arm.  Charge every time.
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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2023, 01:54:13 PM »
Quit extending your arm.  Charge every time.

Yeah, Oso gave them an easy call
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