Former MU players still in college thread

[Elonsmusk]

You're such a visionary, Nrs. How's Magic Dawson's NBA career going?

I'm also pretty sure brew was still giving Wojo a shot through Year 6 (or at least until the collapse at the end of that year), though he'll correct me if I'm wrong.

Many of us were realistic enough to know that a school wasn't going to fire a coach who took his team to 3 NCAA tournaments in 4 years, so we supported the program. So yep, I admit that it took me a long time to join the Nojo camp. I'm actually surprised they fired him after last season, but thank goodness a few boosters were willing to make it happen.

You're one of the "I'm so obsessed with Wojo that I can't make a comment on any subject without referencing him guys." It must be rough having your mind so occupied by a guy who hasn't stepped foot on our alma mater's campus in 8 months.

The smartest employers take immediate action if they hired the wrong man for the job.  MU wasted 6 years with Wojo.  It was evident in Year 1 the guy didn't have it.  You bite the bullet and move on.  Wojo playing Derrick Wilson 33 minutes a night on a roster that had Matt Carlino, Duane Wilson and John Dawson as options was the first major red flag, as was playing Deonte Burton 16 minutes per game.

Btw - I never said John Dawson would make the NBA.  Making the G-League though was a testament to him having potential. 

Funny thing about you is that you have some good takes/opinions.  You just really missed the mark on Wojo.  I'm no longer obsessed with the guy.  I was obsessed with exposing Wojo here on Scoop while he was the coach.  It took the groundswell of dissatisfaction among the MU fanbase that led to Wojo getting canned.   That aside happy he's gone and can once again enjoy MU hoops.  Btw your OMax/Juan Anderson comparison was a good one.

[Galway Eagle]

Ners your issue was you went balls to the wall that Wojo was absolutely horrific and going to Dukiet us. He wasn't, he was the epitome of average, the hyperbole and over reactions for 5 of 7 years was obnoxious and alienated people from your point. But now you want credit, yes you called that he wasn't going to get it done at MU, but he wasn't the horrific end of MU hoops either the guy sucked for where we want to be but in the grand scheme of CBB turned in a C+ project, some highlights, terrible intro, terrible conclusion. That being said you're massively tiptoeing back on your Dawson obsession, you might not have said he was an NBA player but man you're way underselling your obsession with him as our potential savior.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I was obsessed with exposing Wojo here on Scoop while he was the coach.  It took the groundswell of dissatisfaction among the MU fanbase that led to Wojo getting canned.

That "groundswell" of dissatisfaction involved in getting Wojo canned was three people. Wojo, who refused help. Scholl who made one phone call then. The donor who digitally wrote the check.

You do know that about 95%+ of the Scoop posters aren't even donating season ticket holders, right?

[MU82]

Ners your issue was you went balls to the wall that Wojo was absolutely horrific and going to Dukiet us. He wasn't, he was the epitome of average, the hyperbole and over reactions for 5 of 7 years was obnoxious and alienated people from your point. But now you want credit, yes you called that he wasn't going to get it done at MU, but he wasn't the horrific end of MU hoops either the guy sucked for where we want to be but in the grand scheme of CBB turned in a C+ project, some highlights, terrible intro, terrible conclusion. That being said you're massively tiptoeing back on your Dawson obsession, you might not have said he was an NBA player but man you're way underselling your obsession with him as our potential savior.

This. Wojo didn't "ruin" the program as so many drama queens want to say. And you're right: Ners was even more obsessed about Dawson than he was about Wojo.

The smartest employers take immediate action if they hired the wrong man for the job.  MU wasted 6 years with Wojo.  It was evident in Year 1 the guy didn't have it.  You bite the bullet and move on.  Wojo playing Derrick Wilson 33 minutes a night on a roster that had Matt Carlino, Duane Wilson and John Dawson as options was the first major red flag, as was playing Deonte Burton 16 minutes per game.

Btw - I never said John Dawson would make the NBA.  Making the G-League though was a testament to him having potential. 

Funny thing about you is that you have some good takes/opinions.  You just really missed the mark on Wojo.  I'm no longer obsessed with the guy.  I was obsessed with exposing Wojo here on Scoop while he was the coach.  It took the groundswell of dissatisfaction among the MU fanbase that led to Wojo getting canned.   That aside happy he's gone and can once again enjoy MU hoops.  Btw your OMax/Juan Anderson comparison was a good one.

Obviously I wish we would have hired a better coach, but there isn't a single AD or university president who would have fired Wojo after Year 1, Year 2 or Year 3. Not one. Maybe after the step backward in Year 4 or the collapse/mutiny at the end of Year 5 there were 1 or 2 who might have considered it -- with heavy boo$ter backing. And maybe there's another 1 or 2 who would have considered it after Year 6 even though the team made the NCAAT for the 3rd time in 4 years; I believe TAMU found one instance in fairly recent history (Barnes at Texas?) in which that happened. So stop pretending that there are a bunch of "smart employers" out there who would have fired Wojo for playing Derrick Wilson in Year 1.

Funny thing about you is that you also have some decent takes, Ners, but that's not one of them.

And you were flat-out wrong about Dawson. He couldn't hack it in a P6 conference, he needed to go to a low-major program to succeed, and he wasn't better than Rowsey (as you claimed). I'd think you'd give Wojo credit for being a smart employer, realizing that and taking immediate action - ha!

[The Sultan]

The smartest employers take immediate action if they hired the wrong man for the job.  MU wasted 6 years with Wojo.  It was evident in Year 1 the guy didn't have it.  You bite the bullet and move on.  Wojo playing Derrick Wilson 33 minutes a night on a roster that had Matt Carlino, Duane Wilson and John Dawson as options was the first major red flag, as was playing Deonte Burton 16 minutes per game.

Dear Ners:

Just don't....  For the love of God, just don't...

Sincerely,

The rest of Scoop

[The Sultan]

BTW, Ners, for Wojo being a guy who you are "no longer obsessed with," you brought up his name three times in this topic.  The second two of which were when the conversation had already died down.

[Uncle Rico]

John Dawson talk?  Sign me up!

[MU82]

John Dawson talk?  Sign me up!

That's Magic Dawson to you, bub!

[Billy Hoyle]

Do cupcakes schedule cupcakes early in the season?

yes, usually SWAC and MEAC schools, WAC schools, lower level Big Sky and lower level Big West schools.

[Uncle Rico]

That's Magic Dawson to you, bub!

The only thing better than talking about old players who left is talking about former coaches.  What if John Dawson had played for Rick Majerus?  The possibilities are mind-boggling

[muwarrior97]

We should rehire Wojo and fire him again for this

#BOOM 

[MU82]

The only thing better than talking about old players who left is talking about former coaches.  What if John Dawson had played for Rick Majerus?  The possibilities are mind-boggling

Magic Dawson woulda averaged 27 ppg and 12 apg under Al ... and that woulda been after Al punched him in the face and told him to go pro.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

This. Wojo didn't "ruin" the program as so many drama queens want to say. And you're right: Ners was even more obsessed about Dawson than he was about Wojo.

You've not only fallen into the Ners Infinite Argument Loop, you've even triggered the Involuntary Spastic Derrick Wilson Auto Response.

Please please stop.

[MU82]

You've not only fallen into the Ners Infinite Argument Loop, you've even triggered the Involuntary Spastic Derrick Wilson Auto Response.

Please please stop.

My apologies, sir.

[Fred Garvin]

Theo with 4 points and 5 fouls tonight

[MU82]

Theo with 4 points and 5 fouls tonight

Theo had his worst game of the season and it really did cost Duke. Williams was in foul trouble and Duke needed more from his backup.

[PGsHeroes32]

Theo had his worst game of the season and it really did cost Duke. Williams was in foul trouble and Duke needed more from his backup.

Theo changing uniforms hasn't changed the fact that he still has 1-2 fouls a game that are blatantly not fouls however.

[Uncle Rico]

Looks like Izzo-Dukiet is getting ready for Hauserghazi

https://twitter.com/bfquinn/status/1466206594140573702?s=21

[MU82]

Looks like Izzo-Dukiet is getting ready for Hauserghazi

https://twitter.com/bfquinn/status/1466206594140573702?s=21

[The Sultan]

Looks like Izzo-Dukiet is getting ready for Hauserghazi

https://twitter.com/bfquinn/status/1466206594140573702?s=21

Preparing for MSUScoop's meat eating contingent to rush to Joey's defense.

[Uncle Rico]

More anger from Izzo-Dukiet

https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1466210592696397824?s=21

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Looks like Izzo-Dukiet is getting ready for Hauserghazi

https://twitter.com/bfquinn/status/1466206594140573702?s=21

So there is a chance Joey comes back to MU for an encore run?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Don't think Joey has to ever worry about being on the same team as Tyler Herro.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Surprised we didn't see the first ever mid-game transfer.

[MU82]

Garcia with an efficient 14 as UNC crushed Michigan. He had 9 points during the stretch when UNC broke open the game.