NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22

[PGsHeroes32]

Kansas is so damn dumb.

You know they are going to foul up 3. Harris decides not shoot and drops it back to Wilson who instead of shooting the 3 tries to dribble and gets intentionally fouled. Shoot the ball.

Utah did the same thing vs Oregon the other day

[MU82]

Texas fouled up 3 vs. KU and the strategy worked to perfection.

[PGsHeroes32]

Texas storms the court, yikes.

[JWags85]

The officiating in the Arkansas/Auburn game is some of the worst I’ve ever seen. 4 straight moving screens called on 4 straight possessions then about 5 touch fouls and an offensive foul on Jabari Smith for his 2nd that was baffling. 

Couple that with ice cold shooting and a potentially really fun game turned ugly quick

[tower912]

IU dressing 7 scholarship players.  5 suspended for smoking pot.

[MuggsyB]

Who ya got Illinois or Purdue?

[PGsHeroes32]

IU dressing 7 scholarship players.  5 suspended for smoking pot.

Box score showing that Bates may of been 1 of them

[Mr. Nielsen]

Texas A&M lost again.

[MuggsyB]

If Ivey can find a consistent jumper he's going to be a really good pro.  The kid is electric in the open floor and of course has hoppability.

[MuggsyB]

Oh....boy.  That could be a season ending injury for Frazier.  Gotta feel for the kid.

[PGsHeroes32]

Oh....boy.  That could be a season ending injury for Frazier.  Gotta feel for the kid.

Banged knees, hes fine

[DegenerateDish]

I’m worried if MU winds up in a 6/11 or 7/10 game in March and Wyoming is the first round draw.

[MuggsyB]

Mighty Pacific up 8 vs USC. 

[JWags85]

Mighty Pacific up 8 vs USC.

JINX

Also, I don't know if you intended it, but until this summer, Pacific was coached by and this entire team recruited by...Damon Stoudamire, aka Mighty Mouse

[MuggsyB]

JINX

Also, I don't know if you intended it, but until this summer, Pacific was coached by and this entire team recruited by...Damon Stoudamire, aka Mighty Mouse

I didn't know that but it's nice to onow you root for diminutive athletes.  Maybe he can give Kam Jones a few pointers or handles lessons?

[MU82]

Here's an outstanding photo: Arkansas coach Eric Musselman, shirtless, celebrates with the fans after the team upset No. 1 Auburn ...

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Better pro Jonny Davis or Agbaji?

Agbaji has a high floor as a 3 & D player, but lacks the ability to create shots for himself and others.  Still, a Desmond Bane type impact is possible.

Davis can create off the dribble, especially in pick and roll, for himself and occasionally for others.  But I think Davis has a wider variance in possible outcomes.   He should be at least as good as Jordan Poole.  Can he be as good as Allan Houston, or perhaps even Devin Booker?

Davis would have to keep improving his shot, and probably quite a bit, to approach Booker status.  But I still think he has a higher upside than Agbaji.

[Uncle Rico]

Agbaji has a high floor as a 3 & D player, but lacks the ability to create shots for himself and others.  Still, a Desmond Bane type impact is possible.

Davis can create off the dribble, especially in pick and roll, for himself and occasionally for others.  But I think Davis has a wider variance in possible outcomes.   He should be at least as good as Jordan Poole.  Can he be as good as Allan Houston, or perhaps even Devin Booker?

Davis would have to keep improving his shot, and probably quite a bit, to approach Booker status.  But I still think he has a higher upside than Agbaji.

I don’t think he can be the shooter Booker is.  I like the Poole comp in a lot of ways.  Think he has a higher ceiling but there are far worse players to be similar to.

[JWags85]

I don’t think he can be the shooter Booker is.  I like the Poole comp in a lot of ways.  Think he has a higher ceiling but there are far worse players to be similar to.

Yea, Davis has a long way to go to even project near Booker.

And I'd hope he'd have a higher ceiling than Poole as he's projected as a lottery pick where as Poole wasn't even really thought to be a first rounder when he comes out.  Poole is a quicker/better athlete, but Davis has a more solid build, so it probably evens out. 

[Uncle Rico]

Yea, Davis has a long way to go to even project near Booker.

And I'd hope he'd have a higher ceiling than Poole as he's projected as a lottery pick where as Poole wasn't even really thought to be a first rounder when he comes out.  Poole is a quicker/better athlete, but Davis has a more solid build, so it probably evens out.

Davis ceiling is probably higher?  Both exploded as sophomores.  Poole didn’t have to carry a team and be a volume player, either.  Poole is in a good situation, too.  That can make such a difference for how a guy develops

[MUfan12]

Poole also had the advantage of a college offense that used a lot of pro actions. Steeper learning curve for Davis there.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

No doubt Davis would have to make 2 or 3 more big jumps, especially shooting wise, to become a Booker type star.

That's why I used Poole as a different player comp, one that is more attainable.  That gives us a range of player outcomes.

I have high confidence Davis can be as good as Poole, if not a notch better.  Slim chance Davis is as good as Booker, but I wouldn't have it as a nonzero chance either.  It might only be a 2% chance but it's a chance.

[wadesworld]

Johnny Davis much better than Jordan Poole?  As good as Devin Booker?  Come on.  Sure, as KG once said about winning a title with 4 HOF players on the roster, "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!"  But both of those players are very, very good.  The smart bet would be that Davis does not get to what Poole or (especially) Booker are.  I mean, Booker is a top 25 player in the NBA at 25 years old, and has averaged 23 points per game in his 7 years in the NBA (starting at age 19).

And I think people are wildly underrating Poole.  He's 22 years old, playing 30 minutes per game for one of the two best teams in the NBA, and averaging 17 points, 3.5 assists, and 3 rebounds per game.

[Uncle Rico]

Johnny Davis much better than Jordan Poole?  As good as Devin Booker?  Come on.  Sure, as KG once said about winning a title with 4 HOF players on the roster, "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!"  But both of those players are very, very good.  The smart bet would be that Davis does not get to what Poole or (especially) Booker are.  I mean, Booker is a top 25 player in the NBA at 25 years old, and has averaged 23 points per game in his 7 years in the NBA (starting at age 19).

And I think people are wildly underrating Poole.  He's 22 years old, playing 30 minutes per game for one of the two best teams in the NBA, and averaging 17 points, 3.5 assists, and 3 rebounds per game.

Been a Poole stan for awhile.  Not sleeping on him at all.  Repping Milwaukee well

[MU82]

Before that Arkansas win last night, the dopes who play for Auburn stomped on the Razorback logo.