NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22

[MuggsyB]

Sparty almost pulls off the comeback as Illinois pees down its leg in the final minutes.  Terrible game across the board

I don't know what to make of the B14. 

[Billy Hoyle]

What was Louisville's punishment?

Arizona was also investigated by the FBI?

The FBI doesn't punish NCAA programs and refused to turn over their docs until late 2019, early 2020. NCAA investigators arrived on Arizona's campus in March 2020. I guess something happened around then that slowed down the investigation. Any ideas?

[jesmu84]

The FBI doesn't punish NCAA programs and refused to turn over their docs until late 2019, early 2020. NCAA investigators arrived on Arizona's campus in March 2020. I guess something happened around then that slowed down the investigation. Any ideas?

So the FBI investigation results and subsequent NCAA investigation and results and possible punishments at multiple schools are pending because covid slowed things down?

[The Sultan]

The FBI investigations were dumb. Very few care because players just got the money they'd get through NIL now. The NCAA has evolved.  Time to move on.

[MU82]

Academic fraud is the only violation that matters, or it should be.

[Billy Hoyle]

So the FBI investigation results and subsequent NCAA investigation and results and possible punishments at multiple schools are pending because covid slowed things down?

The FBI refusing to turn over their docs, which the NCAA went to court to get, and the NCAA having to wait until the FBI was finished investigating was the main issue.  Then COVID hit. Oh, there's the issue of the NCAA not having subpoena power too.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/20/ncaa-basketball-fbi-scandal-lsu-oklahoma-state-updates

[The Sultan]

The FBI refusing to turn over their docs, which the NCAA went to court to get, and the NCAA having to wait until the FBI was finished investigating was the main issue.  Then COVID hit. Oh, there's the issue of the NCAA not having subpoena power too.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/20/ncaa-basketball-fbi-scandal-lsu-oklahoma-state-updates

And the fact that many people really no longer care about this stuff. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

There will be a population of Louisville fans who want to hire Shaka and will believe that if asked, Shaka would come running. They are incorrect

I've seen a couple of Shaka mentions from Louisville fans but most of their fans are poo pooing the idea at this point. The most common names I have seen are Bruce Pearl and Kelvin Sampson...which is just so on brand for Louisville fans.

[Spotcheck Billy]

UCLA really handled AZ last night.

funny how often Walton told us about the NBA academy in Mexico City and it was moved to San Luis (Obispo?).

[Pakuni]

I've seen a couple of Shaka mentions from Louisville fans but most of their fans are poo pooing the idea at this point. The most common names I have seen are Bruce Pearl and Kelvin Sampson...which is just so on brand for Louisville fans.

Let's not throw stones.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61680.0

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61699.msg1327131#msg1327131

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=43326.msg603859#msg603859

[Billy Hoyle]

There will be a population of Louisville fans who want to hire Shaka and will believe that if asked, Shaka would come running. They are incorrect

will there?  Seems like that's projection.

It's all about Pearl there and allegedly he is interested. Sampson will be mentioned, Kenny Payne, Scott Drew, Eric Mussleman, Nate Oats.

[lawdog77]

It's all about Pearl there and allegedly he is interested.

Serious question. Why would he leave? Seems like Auburn is a good fit for him.

[Uncle Rico]

Serious question. Why would he leave? Seems like Auburn is a good fit for him.

Better coeds at Louisville, well, less religious

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

will there?  Seems like that's projection.

It's all about Pearl there and allegedly he is interested. Sampson will be mentioned, Kenny Payne, Scott Drew, Eric Mussleman, Nate Oats.

Yes, there already is. He's not the main name being mentioned by their fans but as I already mentioned, his name has already been suggested by a few of their fans though the response has been negative but the majority of their fans.

[LAZER]

I've seen a couple of Shaka mentions from Louisville fans but most of their fans are poo pooing the idea at this point. The most common names I have seen are Bruce Pearl and Kelvin Sampson...which is just so on brand for Louisville fans.

I think Sampson would be a great hire for Louisville.

[Hards Alumni]

Serious question. Why would he leave? Seems like Auburn is a good fit for him.

You ever heard of this thing called money?

[The Sultan]

You ever heard of this thing called money?

Pearl makes just about the same that Mack did.

[Hards Alumni]

Pearl makes just about the same that Mack did.

That's nuts, didn't expect Auburn to pony up a big wad for Mr. Pearl.

[lawdog77]

That's nuts, didn't expect Auburn to pony up a big wad for Mr. Pearl.

I would assume he has a pretty big buyout clause if he wanted to leave as well.

[JWags85]

That's nuts, didn't expect Auburn to pony up a big wad for Mr. Pearl.

SEC booster money is next level.  Nate Oats getting a fat contract probably didn't hurt in terms of keeping up with the enemy.

Program in a conference with rich basketball history, but not much of their own.  Gets their first E8 in 30+ years and their first FF.  They were a top 5 seed the pandemic year.  After Lebo and Barbee, they are more than happy to back up the truck to keep him happy.

[Uncle Rico]

SEC booster money is next level.  Nate Oats getting a fat contract probably didn't hurt in terms of keeping up with the enemy.

Program in a conference with rich basketball history, but not much of their own.  Gets their first E8 in 30+ years and their first FF.  They were a top 5 seed the pandemic year.  After Lebo and Barbee, they are more than happy to back up the truck to keep him happy.

Booster money plus TV money.  Money to burn on basketball coaches, even at schools with so-so history in basketball

[WhiteTrash]

That's nuts, didn't expect Auburn to pony up a big wad for Mr. Pearl.

Shows the power of football money. I bet half the students at Auburn don't even know name of the basketball coach. 100% would trade the #1 ranking in basketball for football. Same Alabama, Georgia, MSU, Texas, TCU, etc.

[MU82]

Of all the names thrown around, Sampson makes the most sense.

Definitely would be a step up, the money will be huge, his history fits Louisville's basketball culture, and he knows he could win big there. Would he want the scrutiny that goes with it? I assume he's confident enough in his abilities that it wouldn't stop him from taking it.

Pearl fits, too. He'd slide right in there if he wanted to be at a basketball school.

[JWags85]

Shows the power of football money. I bet half the students at Auburn don't even know name of the basketball coach. 100% would trade the #1 ranking in basketball for football. Same Alabama, Georgia, MSU, Texas, TCU, etc.

Thats just patently false.  I agree with most of the rest, but come on.  They made a Final Four a couple years ago and are the #1 team in the country.  Thats not met with ambivalence, even at a football school.  I assure you most everyone in Austin knew who Rick Barnes and Shaka were.

Auburn is a big college town in the middle of nowhere.  Every game has been a sellout this year and would be if the arena sat 15K instead of 9.

Is football way more important and they'd trade it all for a CFP berth?  Of course.  But to act like its an after thought is silly.  Same with UF during the Billy Donovan years.

[Pakuni]

I wouldn't be shocked if half the Auburn student body couldn't name the basketball coach.
Just like I wouldn't be shocked if half the Marquette student body couldn't name the basketball coach.
Not everybody is into basketball.