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MuggsyB

Having just watched the replay of the Rutgers win that is one of the greatest buzzer beaters of all-time.  Even if it wasn't in the tournament. 

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 10, 2021, 12:17:00 AM
Having just watched the replay of the Rutgers win that is one of the greatest buzzer beaters of all-time.  Even if it wasn't in the tournament.

Ron Harper's son. Probably traveled before the shot, but that's OK, it was amazing. Loved the celebration, too.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on December 10, 2021, 08:26:04 AM
Ron Harper's son. Probably traveled before the shot, but that's OK, it was amazing. Loved the celebration, too.

Clock started late, too
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Mr. Nielsen

#479
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 10, 2021, 09:24:09 AM
Clock started late, too

I watch the replay again on the FOX Sports App, it did not.
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tower912

Harper caught the ball with 3.4 seconds left.  The clock went to 3.3 as his first dribble hit the ground.   If there was a delay, it was miniscule.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: tower912 on December 10, 2021, 09:56:42 AM
Harper caught the ball with 3.4 seconds left.  The clock went to 3.3 as his first dribble hit the ground.   If there was a delay, it was miniscule.
Yep, the scorekeeper has to hit the start button not until Harper touches the ball.
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The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on December 10, 2021, 08:26:04 AM
Ron Harper's son. Probably traveled before the shot, but that's OK, it was amazing. Loved the celebration, too.


He didn't travel.
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MU82

He might not have traveled. I only saw it once, and my second thought was, "That kinda looked like he traveled." Can you do a Euro step 50 feet away from the hoop? Maybe. If so, he didn't travel.

My first thought was, "Wow! Amazing!"

I didn't notice any clock issue.
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CountryRoads

#485
Quote from: MU82 on December 10, 2021, 11:57:25 AM
I didn't notice any clock issue.

A lot of people were complaining about the clock starting late. The clock started a fraction of a second late, but it was negligible and in line with when the clock starts on the thousands of other inbounds plays during the college season.

As long as a human is still responsible for starting the clock, there will always be some small delay. Throw in the fact that guys like Chris Paul will fake like they are grabbing the ball and then complain that the clock starts. 

It was a great shot and great moment in college basketball this season.

forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on December 10, 2021, 11:57:25 AM
He might not have traveled. I only saw it once, and my second thought was, "That kinda looked like he traveled." Can you do a Euro step 50 feet away from the hoop? Maybe. If so, he didn't travel.

My first thought was, "Wow! Amazing!"

I didn't notice any clock issue.

Watching the video, I don't see a travel. Just weird seeing that move 50 feet from the basket.

But talk about an emotional roller coaster. The Purdue guy had to be thinking he just made a game winner...then bang...lost.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: forgetful on December 10, 2021, 02:22:59 PM
Watching the video, I don't see a travel. Just weird seeing that move 50 feet from the basket.

But talk about an emotional roller coaster. The Purdue guy had to be thinking he just made a game winner...then bang...lost.

Purdue choked and one wonders if Matt Painter will ever win a close game
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lawdog77

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 10, 2021, 02:29:46 PM
and one wonders if Matt Painter will ever win a close game
Quite the hyperbole. How can you forget the game against the Fighting Izzo's last year:

:19      Aaron Henry made Free Throw.   50 - 54   
0:19      Aaron Henry missed Free Throw.   50 - 54   
0:19      Trevion Williams Defensive Rebound.   50 - 54   
0:11      Foul on Rocket Watts.   50 - 54   
0:11      Eric Hunter Jr. made Free Throw.   51 - 54   
0:11      Eric Hunter Jr. made Free Throw.   52 - 54   
0:11      Rocket Watts Turnover.   52 - 54   
0:11      Eric Hunter Jr. Steal.   52 - 54   
0:09      Foul on Aaron Henry.   52 - 54   
0:09      Trevion Williams made Free Throw.   53 - 54   
0:09      Michigan State Timeout   53 - 54   
0:09      Trevion Williams missed Free Throw.   53 - 54   
0:09      Mason Gillis Offensive Rebound.   53 - 54   
0:06      Jump Ball won by Purdue   53 - 54   
0:06      Purdue Timeout   53 - 54   
0:04      Trevion Williams made Jumper. Assisted by Eric Hunter Jr..   55 - 54   
0:02      Aaron Henry missed Jumper.   55 - 54   
0:02      Purdue Defensive Rebound.   55 - 54   
0:00      End of Game   55 - 54   

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on December 10, 2021, 03:08:21 PM
Quite the hyperbole. How can you forget the game against the Fighting Izzo's last year:

:19      Aaron Henry made Free Throw.   50 - 54   
0:19      Aaron Henry missed Free Throw.   50 - 54   
0:19      Trevion Williams Defensive Rebound.   50 - 54   
0:11      Foul on Rocket Watts.   50 - 54   
0:11      Eric Hunter Jr. made Free Throw.   51 - 54   
0:11      Eric Hunter Jr. made Free Throw.   52 - 54   
0:11      Rocket Watts Turnover.   52 - 54   
0:11      Eric Hunter Jr. Steal.   52 - 54   
0:09      Foul on Aaron Henry.   52 - 54   
0:09      Trevion Williams made Free Throw.   53 - 54   
0:09      Michigan State Timeout   53 - 54   
0:09      Trevion Williams missed Free Throw.   53 - 54   
0:09      Mason Gillis Offensive Rebound.   53 - 54   
0:06      Jump Ball won by Purdue   53 - 54   
0:06      Purdue Timeout   53 - 54   
0:04      Trevion Williams made Jumper. Assisted by Eric Hunter Jr..   55 - 54   
0:02      Aaron Henry missed Jumper.   55 - 54   
0:02      Purdue Defensive Rebound.   55 - 54   
0:00      End of Game   55 - 54

That doesn't count.  The Spartans had Joey Hauser
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lawdog77


Uncle Rico

Duke got its 4th 5* today to commit to play for Jon Scheyer next year.  They have 4 of the top 11 prospects in next year's class and 5 of the top 55
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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 10, 2021, 03:23:35 PM
Duke got its 4th 5* today to commit to play for Jon Scheyer next year.  They have 4 of the top 11 prospects in next year's class and 5 of the top 55

Obviously, we still don't know what kind of game coach Scheyer will be.

Obviously, those who thought that recruiting would suffer because kids would want to play only for K and not for Duke were wrong.

If Scheyer can coach, he will have walked into the greatest situation in the history of first-year coaches. If he can't coach, the job will chew him up and spit him out. We'll get to see soon enough.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on December 10, 2021, 03:27:20 PM
Obviously, we still don't know what kind of game coach Scheyer will be.

Obviously, those who thought that recruiting would suffer because kids would want to play only for K and not for Duke were wrong.

If Scheyer can coach, he will have walked into the greatest situation in the history of first-year coaches. If he can't coach, the job will chew him up and spit him out. We'll get to see soon enough.

Starting with that much talent helps, however, Penny has had plenty of talent at Memphis.
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lawdog77

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 10, 2021, 03:23:35 PM
Duke got its 4th 5* today to commit to play for Jon Scheyer next year.  They have 4 of the top 11 prospects in next year's class and 5 of the top 55
I would really like to know how much the Duke kids are getting from NIL's, versus getting paid to play for G league Ignite.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on December 10, 2021, 03:34:23 PM
I would really like to know how much the Duke kids are getting from NIL's, versus getting paid to play for G league Ignite.

Good question.  I haven't looked, but I'd imagine a lot of these kids are affiliated with Nike
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HouWarrior

I am likely redundant to earlier posts on this.

Premise: The NBA tried team uniformity and team deals but eventually gave in on sneakers.... every man for himself...yes?

1- Currently, ...Does a Nike signed NCAA school outfit all BB shoes and keep all the Nike $?

2- Does a kid playing during HS with a  Nike BB summer league team get to sign up his own individual deal and get Nike $ during those summers, or are those summer teams also income hoarders like quest 1 above ?

3- If the same "Nike" kid then recruits into a Nike NCAA school can he get separate Nike money for doing so from Nike .....not connected to any school recruiting inducment (NCAA violation) ...but simply as a continuing NIL brand loyalty thing to this loyal Nike kid?

4- Should some up and comer NCAA school consider letting its current sneaker deal totally expire and then let all the recruits freely sign a NIL deal with whomever, for their shoes , like the NBAers? Seems this would assure every BB recruit some decent NIL income.

5- How long before NCAA kids unionize and I will have to consider these issues in light of their collective bargaining agreement, ie CBA?

6- Mods feel free to shift this post to a more appropriate thread, as I am curious on the answers.
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CountryRoads

Memphis is a steaming pile of garbage.

Dish

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 10, 2021, 09:17:29 PM
Memphis is a steaming pile of garbage.

Penny can't coach, at all. They are a bad AAU team playing D1 ball.

Dish

Arizona had to land in Indy due to the storms in Illinois tonight. For some reason, the buses they tried to get to take them to Champaign were driving from somewhere in Illinois, and were going to take two hours to get to the Indy airport.

Zona ended up taking Uber's to Champaign.

Not coincidentally, the line moved from UA -1 to UA +1.5 in the last hour.

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