NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22

[MuggsyB]

As I said well before the Nova game, Purdue is no joke.  It's early but I think they're the favorites.  I don't see another team with their overall inside/outside arsenal.  We all hope the B14 streak in the tournament continues but Purdue is a significant threat and concern.

[Herman Cain]

Bought season tickets thinking they would easily be the best in the conference once Baldwin committed. Him plus a grad transfer who wanted easy minutes on a surefire NCAA team, right? I was dead wrong. My god are they bad both from a talent perspective and discipline. Went to the Eastern Kentucky game and they must have had 30 turnovers since they had no idea how to break a press. You have a 6'9" wing that can handle the ball/pass and you cant break a press at the college level?

Something is fishy over there. A senior got suspended and PBJ hasn't played since. Could easily see a situation where he quits mid season to focus on the draft and Sr. gets canned.

Big game on January 20 when Oakland and Jamal Cain comes to town to face PB jr

[tower912]

Syracuse fouled up 3.   OT.

[JWags85]

Big game on January 20 when Oakland and Jamal Cain comes to town to face PB jr

Oakland probably kills them.  They are a solid club and UWM most definitely is not.

[MuggsyB]

Nm

[MuggsyB]

Ohip St. 7-18 from the FT line vs Duke.

[MuggsyB]

Wow.  Wasn't Duke up big in the 2nd half? How bad is the ACC?  6th best league?

[MU82]

Syracuse fouled up 3.   OT.

Yep. Indiana player made the first FT, missed the second intentionally, another Indiana player got the rebound and was fouled, and then he hit the 2 FTs to send the game into OT.

It doesn't happen very often. Even though it did happen, I wouldn't call Boeheim's strategy "wrong," just as I wouldn't have said he was wrong if he had chosen not to foul up 3. Indiana went into the game shooting 37% from 3 and they shot 40% tonight, so fouling probably was the "right" strategy.

[tower912]

It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't issue.   If whatever you choose works, it was right.   If it doesn't, you were wrong.

[MU82]

It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't issue.   If whatever you choose works, it was right.   If it doesn't, you were wrong.

Of course. Like most coaching decisions in every sport.

Somehow, despite statistics that don't necessarily back it up (and don't necessarily tear it down either), "foul up 3" has become what many believe is a no-brainer strategy.

For most college coaches, I believe it's become one of those things where "If I do it and it doesn't work, I can at least say I was doing what the TV talking heads and armchair coaches said I was 'supposed to do.' But if I don't do it and they tie it with a 3, then I'll get ripped on social media."

FWIW, most NBA coaches do not foul up 3 even though their league is filled with deadly 3-point shooters.

I know it sometimes sounds like I'm advocating not fouling, but that's not the case. I'm advocating assessing each situation on its own merits. I can see why Boeheim did it: Indiana is a decent 3-point shooting team and they had hit 40% in that game. If I were playing against Marquette, especially when we're having one of our horrid nights from 3, I'd probably not foul. Another factor for me would be if the opponent is a good rebounding team that has been killing us on the boards all night.

[Lennys Tap]

Another factor for me would be if the opponent is a good rebounding team that has been killing us on the boards all night.

Agree. We have given up several put backs of missed FTs already this year. If I'm Shaka, I never foul up 3.

[MU82]

Agree. We have given up several put backs of missed FTs already this year. If I'm Shaka, I never foul up 3.

Good point. Hopefully we'll improve in that department so Shaka has all the options available at his disposal. Right now, Oso is only guy on the team who consistently finds a man and boxes him out.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Halftime
Washington State 18 Arizona State 10. 
ASU 4-24 shooting. 0-6 from the foul line.

[MuggsyB]

Halftime
Washington State 18 Arizona State 10. 
ASU 4-24 shooting. 0-6 from the foul line.

Wow!!  Hurley's days may be numbered.  What the list of successful Duke tree coaches?

[Dish]

ASU ends up scoring 29 points at home.

For the game.

[Dish]

Houston is still +210 to win the AAC, which is unbelievable at this point.

I have zero faith in Penny putting it together with that Memphis team.

[MU82]

ASU ends up scoring 29 points at home.

For the game.

Hope you had the under.

[tower912]

They could use a proven scorer like Joey.

[MuggsyB]

UVU is about to beat BYU.

[Galway Eagle]

UVU is about to beat BYU.

Rushed the court for beating number 12 lol

[MuggsyB]

Rushed the court for beating number 12 lol

LOL.

[JWags85]

Rushed the court for beating number 12 lol

They've only been a D1 program for about 15 years.  Were a JUCO before that. Never made an NCAA, and they just beat the preeminent school in the state, who was nearly top 10, who is coached by their old head coach.   I think it's totally merited

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

They've only been a D1 program for about 15 years.  Were a JUCO before that. Never made an NCAA, and they just beat the preeminent school in the state, who was nearly top 10, who is coached by their old head coach.   I think it's totally merited

Agreed. Let the kids have fun.

[MU82]

They could use a proven scorer like Joey.

He might be available.

Tomorrow.

[MuggsyB]

He might be available.

Tomorrow.

I feel bad for him.  Do they sell quill pens on Amazon?