NCAA Hoops Thread '21-22

[shoothoops]

The Saint Stan stans are pretty quiet. 2-9 in the WCC. 213 in the NET after losing badly to #212 Portland last night.

Not sure what a Saint Stan is but I do know:

Loyola Marymount won 65% of its games last season, Stan's first. For perspective, they have only done that 3 times since their last NCAA Tourney appearance in 1990. And, it was a significant improvement from the 34% win team the year prior. It was also the first time in a decade that they had a winning conference record. It was their 4th winning record in conference since their last tourney appearance in 1990. Their league of course has been significantly tougher in recent years than many of the years during that long draught.

We'll see what Stan does (or doesn't build) there the next 3-5 years. But he's certainly earned the time and opportunity to find out.

[MuggsyB]

Was that a cheap shot by Davison?

[MuggsyB]

I think the flopping by Flopison and others can easily be taken out of the college game.  It's really a shame and totally inexcusable.

[tower912]

Sparty going on the road and losing to an unranked, sub . 500 team. 
Man, can you imagine if something like that happened to Marquette?

Izzo calls out effort, says players need to look in the mirror, and does not make players available to the media, for possibly the first time in his tenure.

[The Sultan]

I think the flopping by Flopison and others can easily be taken out of the college game.  It's really a shame and totally inexcusable.

Easiest way to do it is if refs stop falling for it.  If they continue to do so, it will continue to happen.  Simple as that.

[Uncle Rico]

Sparty going on the road and losing to an unranked, sub . 500 team. 
Man, can you imagine if something like that happened to Marquette?

Izzo calls out effort, says players need to look in the mirror, and does not make players available to the media, for possibly the first time in his tenure.

His roster construction has been an issue the last two years.  No alphas like he's had in the past

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

His roster construction has been an issue the last two years.  No alphas like he's had in the past

Exactly what Joey wanted!

[Uncle Rico]

Exactly what Joey wanted!

I imagine Hauser the Lesser thought he was an alpha

[MuggsyB]

Easiest way to do it is if refs stop falling for it.  If they continue to do so, it will continue to happen.  Simple as that.

Here's what I would do with the flop.  It's really quite simple and within 10 games of the college season teams would adjust.

1)  A first or second flop should be treated exactly like a Flagrant 1.  No warnings, no nonsense, an immediate F-1.

2) A 3rd or 4th flop should be treated as a flagrant 2. 

3) A 5th flop is a 10 game suspension.

4) A 6th flop means your season is over

The fact is this is not. basketball, it never has been.  It's horrible for the game and many skirt the rules and get away with it.  All flop plays should be reviewable just as flagrant fouls are reviewable.  If these rules were enacted there would be very little if any flopping, even from the colossal douchebags like Davison.

[The Sultan]

Here's what I would do with the flop.  It's really quite simple and within 10 games of the college season teams would adjust.

1)  A first or second flop should be treated exactly like a Flagrant 1.  No warnings, no nonsense, an immediate F-1.

2) A 3rd or 4th flop should be treated as a flagrant 2. 

3) A 5th flop is a 10 game suspension.

4) A 6th flop means your season is over

The fact is this is not. basketball, it never has been.  It's horrible for the game and many skirt the rules and get away with it.  All flop plays should be reviewable just as flagrant fouls are reviewable.  If these rules were enacted there would be very little if any flopping, even from the colossal douchebags like Davison.

Yeah this is way too harsh.  Again, if refs wouldn't call them, flops wouldn't happen. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Yeah this is way too harsh.  Again, if refs wouldn't call them, flops wouldn't happen.

Yes, sports need less extrajudicial policing and less points of emphasis. Just call the rule book.

When they put the semicircles in, teams adjusted. Simple, quantified. Now with the hook and hold, we are back to not knowing what's an offensive foul or not with these flops, which are taught. Ignore them and they go away.

[PGsHeroes32]

Here's what I would do with the flop.  It's really quite simple and within 10 games of the college season teams would adjust.

1)  A first or second flop should be treated exactly like a Flagrant 1.  No warnings, no nonsense, an immediate F-1.

2) A 3rd or 4th flop should be treated as a flagrant 2. 

3) A 5th flop is a 10 game suspension.

4) A 6th flop means your season is over

The fact is this is not. basketball, it never has been.  It's horrible for the game and many skirt the rules and get away with it.  All flop plays should be reviewable just as flagrant fouls are reviewable.  If these rules were enacted there would be very little if any flopping, even from the colossal douchebags like Davison.

Alright lets settle down.

[We R Final Four]

7th flop.......public hanging.

[rocky_warrior]

7th flop.......public hanging.

No torture first?  Pity.

[jesmu84]

Doesn't the rulebook state something about trying to deceive the refs? That's what a flop is, right?

[tower912]

Muggsy, flops are not worse than flagrant fouls.

[lawdog77]

Alright lets settle down.

[MuggsyB]

Fine.  I don't like flopping.  Perhaps I was too anachronistic and hostile.  Maybe there's a happy compromise?

[JWags85]

What an absolute HEATER Rutgers is on

[Uncle Rico]

RAC Attacks are real

[Dish]

It's amazing what Rutgers is doing at the RAC. They're just whipping Illinois tonight.

[MuggsyB]

What a bunch of nonsense by Donny Marshall.  "Gillespie created separation as BEPOY?  Uh.....no.

[MuggsyB]

Too much launching. Attack the rim.

[shoothoops]

Tomorrow morning on ESPN College Game Day, there will be a story worth your time.

Justin Hardy a Senior from Washington University in St. Louis, has been a key player, averaging 12 and 6 on a team ranked in the D-3 Top 10 most of the season.

He also happens to have stage 4 stomach cancer. He has received chemo treatments early in the week, so he can play in games later in the week.

Justin is from St. Charles, Illinois, outside of Chicago.

[pbiflyer]

Yeah this is way too harsh.  Again, if refs wouldn't call them, flops wouldn't happen.

On the positive side, floppy's season would be over 10 minutes into a game if that rule was implemented.