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MuggsyB

Quote from: lawdog77 on February 02, 2022, 08:26:27 AM
I think he's been doing pretty well. The two years before he arrived, they were under 500 in the AAC. Since Hurley arrived:
16-17 AAC
19-12 AAC
15-8 Big East Lost 1st rd NCAA
15-5 With a highest ranking of 15

I think with Hurley there,they will be in the Top 3 or 4 in the league every year.

This year his team is underachieving.  I think they have the most overall talent in the BEast and looked like a F4 team early in the season. 

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 02, 2022, 11:01:19 AM
This year his team is underachieving.  I think they have the most overall talent in the BEast and looked like a F4 team early in the season.

I mean, what do you base that on? They were ranked 21st to start the season by KenPom and are currently ranked 19th. They were picked to finish second in conference and are currently 3rd. They had a monster double OT win against Auburn, but that was immediately followed by a loss to Michigan State, an OT victory against VCU, and a single digit victory against mighty Maryland Eastern Shore. Prior to the Auburn game they had beaten up on 4 cupcakes. Outside that Auburn game, when did they look final four worthy?

Hurley certainly isn't overperforming this season but I think he's got UConn right where they were projected to be. Overall, I think he's done a good job of building UConn from the crater that Ollie left it in.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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MuggsyB

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 02, 2022, 11:25:07 AM
I mean, what do you base that on? They were ranked 21st to start the season by KenPom and are currently ranked 19th. They were picked to finish second in conference and are currently 3rd. They had a monster double OT win against Auburn, but that was immediately followed by a loss to Michigan State, an OT victory against VCU, and a single digit victory against mighty Maryland Eastern Shore. Prior to the Auburn game they had beaten up on 4 cupcakes. Outside that Auburn game, when did they look final four worthy?

Hurley certainly isn't overperforming this season but I think he's got UConn right where they were projected to be. Overall, I think he's done a good job of building UConn from the crater that Ollie left it in.

Having watched them vs Auburn and Mich St.  They blew the Mich St. game but you could see their talent level in Nov.

lawdog77

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 02, 2022, 12:36:25 PM
Having watched them vs Auburn and Mich St.  They blew the Mich St. game but you could see their talent level in Nov.
It's still there. Until the Creighton game, UCONN was on a 5 game win streak,4 by double digits.

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 02, 2022, 11:25:07 AM
Hurley certainly isn't overperforming this season but I think he's got UConn right where they were projected to be.

This sounds quite a bit like a popular criticism of everybody's favorite former Marquette coach.

Hurley does seem to have UConn on a decent trajectory. And against us, he was smart enough to take the ball out of Lewis' hands in crunch time; I'm looking forward to seeing the strategic rematch between Hurley and Shaka.

I guess I won't be impressed until he either outperforms expectations or meets super-high expectations. For a coach who's never reached the second weekend, he sure does get a ton of national praise.

But again, I was impressed by him just calling himself out. It WAS an embarrassing loss for him and UConn.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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DoctorV

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 08:18:56 AM
"I was stunned at being down 10 at halftime," Hurley said. "It should have been down four at the half. We did bizarre [things] with the ball. We didn't look like a well-coached team. I am embarrassed by that. I am embarrassed by how we played. UConn should never look like this."

Big props to Hurley for holding his team and himself accountable. We need more of that kind of honesty in coaching.

It makes me feel a little bad for saying that I'm still not overly impressed with the job Hurley has done at UConn. I'm NOT saying he's been bad or anything; I just thought he'd have the program a little further along. We'll see how the rest of his 4th season goes, and then beyond.

I'm not quite sure why, but I kind of dislike Hurley.
I agree with you that it's good he held himself and his team accountable, but it also came off as not giving coach McDermott at CU much credit.

That was a big win for Creighton on the road as they try to get and stay on the right side of the bubble.

As the Shaka led Golden Eagles continue to battle for top 3 finishes and BE titles for years ahead, I can see Hurley being one of those guys that will continuously irk me the wrong way.
To his credit he seems like he will have UConn in the top4 yearly so there could be a lot of epic battles in the near future

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 02, 2022, 12:36:25 PM
Having watched them vs Auburn and Mich St.  They blew the Mich St. game but you could see their talent level in Nov.

If you say so. It could also be that Auburn was the best game they will play all season and their actual talent level is a little below final four caliber.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2022, 01:06:44 PM
This sounds quite a bit like a popular criticism of everybody's favorite former Marquette coach.

Hurley does seem to have UConn on a decent trajectory. And against us, he was smart enough to take the ball out of Lewis' hands in crunch time; I'm looking forward to seeing the strategic rematch between Hurley and Shaka.

I guess I won't be impressed until he either outperforms expectations or meets super-high expectations. For a coach who's never reached the second weekend, he sure does get a ton of national praise.

But again, I was impressed by him just calling himself out. It WAS an embarrassing loss for him and UConn.

Meeting expectations is fine...when the expectations are a top 25 team or better. I would also argue that Hurley has overperformed in each of his first three years.  The year before he took over, KP ranked UConn at 179. Hurley has raised that each year he's been there. We'll see where he peaks and whether or not he can maintain his peak once he gets there.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Herman Cain

X ekes our a win over Butler

Butler seems to still have some fight in them and won't be a guaranteed easy win for anyone . That said they are going to have to scratch and claw their way to any wins .
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1SE

Even when it won't help our NET, I'll be rooting against Nova, X (and UCONN, X and PC) the rest of the way - I want the regular season title!
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TallTitan34

Quote from: 1SE on February 03, 2022, 01:35:12 AM
I want the regular season title!

Not going to happen with Providence not making up three tough games that were canceled.

1SE

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 03, 2022, 01:44:53 AM
Not going to happen with Providence not making up three tough games that were canceled.

Haven't done all the permutations but they still have Nova x2, X and Creighton.

Neither likely but they could lose all those and we could win out.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

If Providence goes 5-2 or better, we cannot finish ahead of them

If Providence goes 4-3, we would have to win out to finish ahead of them

If Providence goes 3-4, we would have to finish 6-1 to finish ahead of them
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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SaveOD238

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 03, 2022, 01:57:30 AM
If Providence goes 5-2 or better, we cannot finish ahead of them

If Providence goes 4-3, we would have to win out to finish ahead of them

If Providence goes 3-4, we would have to finish 6-1 to finish ahead of them

We don't have to finish ahead of Providence.  Just tied with them.  This is where beating Nova was huge for seeding, because they will likely be a high seed.  Record against the top seeds is the next tie-breaker after head-to-head.

Say we both finish 15-5.  First-tiebreaker is head to head, which is tied.  Second tiebreaker is record vs the next highest seed (potentially Nova), which we win.   

A three way tie with PC and XU is a win for MU too, because that tiebreaker is mini-conference record.  We're 3-1.

1SE

Quote from: SaveOD238 on February 03, 2022, 06:16:28 AM
We don't have to finish ahead of Providence.  Just tied with them.  This is where beating Nova was huge for seeding, because they will likely be a high seed.  Record against the top seeds is the next tie-breaker after head-to-head.

Say we both finish 15-5.  First-tiebreaker is head to head, which is tied.  Second tiebreaker is record vs the next highest seed (potentially Nova), which we win.   

A three way tie with PC and XU is a win for MU too, because that tiebreaker is mini-conference record.  We're 3-1.

But I think the point is teams are going to finish with unbalanced records because of cancelled games? That math gets fuzzy this year.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: SaveOD238 on February 03, 2022, 06:16:28 AM
We don't have to finish ahead of Providence.  Just tied with them.  This is where beating Nova was huge for seeding, because they will likely be a high seed.  Record against the top seeds is the next tie-breaker after head-to-head.

Say we both finish 15-5.  First-tiebreaker is head to head, which is tied.  Second tiebreaker is record vs the next highest seed (potentially Nova), which we win.   

A three way tie with PC and XU is a win for MU too, because that tiebreaker is mini-conference record.  We're 3-1.

We can't tie with them unless we have 2 more games canceled
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Shooter McGavin

#1116
How many students can attend the GT vs St Johns game?   They can't even fill up a little gym.

There are more people at a grade school game.

Vander Blue Man Group


Johnny B


Uncle Rico

Big night for St. John's NIT chances
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PGsHeroes32

It honestly might be best for the leauge if Gtown has a made up Covid outbreak that carries for the next month.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB


Herman Cain

This is a good win for The Johnnies. Road win and good margin of victory. The Johnnies wont make the tournament, but it modestly helps the league when they win.
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Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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