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Warriors4ever

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-very-tough-him-150847158.html

Proof that Biden totally did the smart thing by saying kind words about his oredecessor.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: MUBurrow on December 22, 2021, 10:33:54 AM
Yeah, the cherrypicking of Dems skeptical quotes from before a vaccine was even available about being careful about taking the medical advice of a guy who went on to promote injecting bleach and taking horse dewormer is really played out.

Burrow

Harris and Biden weren't skeptical about taking medical advice from Trump. They knew that there was no and would never be a "Trump Vaccine" pushed by the Donald that didn't have FDA approval. They made their statements to divide and score partisan political points. Period.

jesmu84

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 22, 2021, 12:42:57 PM
Burrow

Harris and Biden weren't skeptical about taking medical advice from Trump. They knew that there was no and would never be a "Trump Vaccine" pushed by the Donald that didn't have FDA approval. They made their statements to divide and score partisan political points. Period.

PERIOD!!!

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 22, 2021, 12:42:57 PM
Burrow

Harris and Biden weren't skeptical about taking medical advice from Trump. They knew that there was no and would never be a "Trump Vaccine" pushed by the Donald that didn't have FDA approval. They made their statements to divide and score partisan political points. Period.


Yeah. Too far gone. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


Jockey

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 22, 2021, 12:42:57 PM
Burrow

Harris and Biden weren't skeptical about taking medical advice from Trump. They knew that there was no and would never be a "Trump Vaccine" pushed by the Donald that didn't have FDA approval. They made their statements to divide and score partisan political points. Period.

No.

I said the same thing. For the same reason. I would take no vaccine if it was approved early because of political pressure.

You are being dishonest on this, Lenny. You know exactly why people said this.

MU82

Well, it's possible, even likely, that Biden and Harris did say what they said because it's what they actually believed AND to score political points.

As to the latter half of that ... it worked, as they ended up with 306 political points!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jockey on December 22, 2021, 02:26:51 PM
No.

I said the same thing. For the same reason. I would take no vaccine if it was approved early because of political pressure.

You are being dishonest on this, Lenny. You know exactly why people said this.

LOL, Jockey. The vaccine was certainly fast tracked out of necessity. But it was never going to be approved by our top scientists before it was deemed safe. Not believing in the science had they approved it on Nov 1st rather than Dec 11 would have been as dumb as any other flat earther's objection is today.

MUDPT

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 22, 2021, 04:04:52 PM
LOL, Jockey. The vaccine was certainly fast tracked out of necessity. But it was never going to be approved by our top scientists before it was deemed safe. Not believing in the science had they approved it on Nov 1st rather than Dec 11 would have been as dumb as any other flat earther's objection is today.

Not sure how the government could have approved the vaccine on 11/1 when Pfizer didn't submit their EUA until 11/20.  The US actually got "lucky" with the fall wave last year, in that it provided enough exposures in the placebo group to prove the vaccine worked. It probably would have taken a lot longer if there were less cases.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 22, 2021, 12:42:57 PM
Burrow

Harris and Biden weren't skeptical about taking medical advice from Trump. They knew that there was no and would never be a "Trump Vaccine" pushed by the Donald that didn't have FDA approval. They made their statements to divide and score partisan political points. Period.

Thanks for the reply Lenny.  I will grant that political points certainly played some role in the motivation for their statements, but we probably differ on our interpretation of how legitimate those points were and on how harmful the statements were in terms of vaccine hesitancy. 

Warriors4ever


Galway Eagle

Quote from: Warriors4ever on December 23, 2021, 09:34:52 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rejects-anti-vaccine-talking-134656213.html

Trump now promoting getting vaccinated on conservative media.

Either his sheeple will follow or he will deal with the chaos he made
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Good. Only took Mr. Vaccine a year to promote the vaccines he invented.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

#465
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MU82 on December 23, 2021, 10:47:45 AM
Good. Only took Mr. Vaccine a year to promote the vaccines he invented.

Or he's gearing up to announce on 1/6/22 that he's running again, and polling is making him change his tune.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 22, 2021, 09:47:01 AM
Great that he's finally doing that. Could have been done a year ago. Too bad there was all that nonsense about not getting the "Trump vaccine" (as if Donald Trump controlled the FDA) that originally politicized the process and further polarized the country. Also too bad that some in right wing media provided cover for the stubborn/foolish who resisted being vaxxed.
The right wing media did not "provide cover". That implies that the anti-vaxxers all came up with their stance on their own.

The right wing media DROVE the narrative. They've relentlessly thrown shade on the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, despite in many cases being vaccinated themselves.

Now, figure out why they drove the narrative that they did.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: TSmith34 on December 23, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
The right wing media did not "provide cover". That implies that the anti-vaxxers all came up with their stance on their own.

The right wing media DROVE the narrative. They've relentlessly thrown shade on the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, despite in many cases being vaccinated themselves.

Now, figure out why they drove the narrative that they did.

no they didn't.  the "right wing media" merely allowed for individuals to make their own decisions regarding whether or not to get the vax.  those of you who threw around terms fascism and dictator the previous 4 years...can you say projection much?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Skatastrophy

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on December 23, 2021, 08:54:57 PM
no they didn't.  the "right wing media" merely allowed for individuals to make their own decisions regarding whether or not to get the vax.  those of you who threw around terms fascism and dictator the previous 4 years...can you say projection much?

> allowed

Turn off the TV my dude

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on December 23, 2021, 08:54:57 PM
no they didn't.  the "right wing media" merely allowed for individuals to make their own decisions regarding whether or not to get the vax.

One thing Scoop has taught me is that MU's dental school has really low standards.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

blow it out your a$$ fluffer we can all play that game-how about the one thing that your posts have shown me is certain colleges up around the fox river valley region hire a bunch of arrogant pr!cks

oh and btw-

https://theworldnews.net/uk-news/america-s-vaccine-holdouts-aren-t-republicans-they-re-people-under-65
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on December 23, 2021, 09:21:39 PM
blow it out your a$$ fluffer we can all play that game-how about the one thing that your posts have shown me is certain colleges up around the fox river valley region hire a bunch of arrogant pr!cks

oh and btw-

https://theworldnews.net/uk-news/america-s-vaccine-holdouts-aren-t-republicans-they-re-people-under-65

From your link:

"A study showed that among all age groups, Democrats were more likely to be inoculated. It also reflected that inoculation rates dropped with each age bracket."

The articles are too much for you I see. 😂😂😂
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on December 23, 2021, 09:21:39 PM
blow it out your a$$ fluffer we can all play that game-how about the one thing that your posts have shown me is certain colleges up around the fox river valley region hire a bunch of arrogant pr!cks

oh and btw-

https://theworldnews.net/uk-news/america-s-vaccine-holdouts-aren-t-republicans-they-re-people-under-65

9 of 10

The lack of ellipses and air quotes leave you just short of a 10.  The link provided not proving your point is incredible work. 
Guster is for Lovers

4everwarriors

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 23, 2021, 09:13:49 PM
One thing Scoop has taught me is that MU's dental school has really low standards.



I'll look for your application in the reject pile, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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