More conference realignment talk

[Dr. Blackheart]

ACC is cooked.  FSU and Clemson desperate to leave.

Another benefit of signing on with MSG. 

[jficke13]

Yup.  I'd say o/u on implosion is 1.5 years.  Just a matter of who the Big Ten takes.  I'd say UNC and Virginia are locks and at least 1 of the Florida schools.

SEC has some issues with current members probably not thrilled with adding intrastate rivals but probably don't have a choice

Don't the states of North Carolina and Virginia have requirements to keep their respective flagship and state schools together? e.g., if UVA goes to the Big10, wouldn't VaTech have to go too?

[Its DJOver]

Don't the states of North Carolina and Virginia have requirements to keep their respective flagship and state schools together? e.g., if UVA goes to the Big10, wouldn't VaTech have to go too?

Didn't Oklahoma.  $$$

[Uncle Rico]

Don't the states of North Carolina and Virginia have requirements to keep their respective flagship and state schools together? e.g., if UVA goes to the Big10, wouldn't VaTech have to go too?

Allegedly was the case in Oklahoma, too.  Virginia and VaTech weren't in the same conferences for years.

At this point with conference realignment, I'm putting all these considerations out to pasture. 

[jficke13]

Allegedly was the case in Oklahoma, too.  Virginia and VaTech weren't in the same conferences for years.

At this point with conference realignment, I'm putting all these considerations out to pasture.

Roger that, just had this feeling like it was discussed as an obstacle in the past but couldn't put my finger on it.

[MU82]

Big Ten has wanted UNC for years. UVa makes sense, too - at least as much as any of this makes sense.

[Scoop Snoop]

UVA is and always has been the darling of Virginia's universities to the politicians in Richmond. If they thought UVA was better off in the Big 10 and Virginia Tech was left behind, I really don't think they would care too much.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Missouri State leaving MVC for CUSA

[lawdog77]

Missouri State leaving MVC for CUSA

This is something Rico should have posted in the Basketball schedule thread

[The Sultan]

CUSA has become the bottom of the barrel conference for schools transitioning to FBS. They added Delaware as a full member in  2023 and have probably been looking for an addition to match. Not sure MSU would have been their first choice because their football has been terrible.

Anyway this takes away the only full conference member that is in the drainage basin of the Missouri River.

Wonder what the MVC does now? They could grab the four Dakota schools which means a 15 team regular conference and no change to the football conference.

Or they could go for St.Thomas on its road to BE membership.

[Uncle Rico]

CUSA has become the bottom of the barrel conference for schools transitioning to FBS. They added Delaware as a full member in  2023 and have probably been looking for an addition to match. Not sure MSU would have been their first choice because their football has been terrible.

Anyway this takes away the only full conference member that is in the drainage basin of the Missouri River.

Wonder what the MVC does now? They could grab the four Dakota schools which means a 15 team regular conference and no change to the football conference.

Or they could go for St.Thomas on its road to BE membership.

As a lifelong Valley fan, this is another sad day.  They haven't been good, so unlike losing Creighton and Wichita State, this isn't as sad, but still sad.

My hunch is St. Thomas makes a lot of sense for both parties

[MU82]

My hunch is St. Thomas makes a lot of sense for both parties

They scored a lot of cred with their big win over Marquette last season.

[Uncle Rico]

They scored a lot of cred with their big win over Marquette last season.

Like losing to Wisconsin, Marquette never recovered from that loss.  Probably why they missed the tournament

[The Sultan]

As a lifelong Valley fan, this is another sad day.  They haven't been good, so unlike losing Creighton and Wichita State, this isn't as sad, but still sad.

My hunch is St. Thomas makes a lot of sense for both parties

I do wonder if they should have added the Dakota schools long ago. Belmont and Valpo have been pretty poor. Murray State hasn't moved the needle either.

[Uncle Rico]

I do wonder if they should have added the Dakota schools long ago. Belmont and Valpo have been pretty poor. Murray State hasn't moved the needle either.

Coaches matter and gives credence to the worry people have about adding Gonzaga to the Big East and whether they can thrive post-Mark Few

[Scoop Snoop]

Like losing to Wisconsin, Marquette never recovered from that loss.  Probably why they missed the tournament

The losses you mention definitely were part of the reason that Marquette missed the tourney, but being swept by DePaul was the clincher.

[The Sultan]

Coaches matter and gives credence to the worry people have about adding Gonzaga to the Big East and whether they can thrive post-Mark Few

Yep.

[MU82]

Grand Canyon and Seattle move from WAC to WCC.

https://sports.yahoo.com/west-coast-conference-add-grand-185621881.html?.tsrc=1317

[Herman Cain]

Grand Canyon and Seattle move from WAC to WCC.

https://sports.yahoo.com/west-coast-conference-add-grand-185621881.html?.tsrc=1317

Seattle trying to bring back glory days of Elgin Baylor

[The Sultan]

Grand Canyon and Seattle move from WAC to WCC.

https://sports.yahoo.com/west-coast-conference-add-grand-185621881.html?.tsrc=1317

Good additions. Makes up for BYU loss and an extra school in case the Zags bolt.

[muwarrior69]

Grand Canyon and Seattle move from WAC to WCC.

https://sports.yahoo.com/west-coast-conference-add-grand-185621881.html?.tsrc=1317

Surprised the WCC accepted them with all their bad publicity.

https://apnews.com/article/grand-canyon-university-fine-college-6728cbbc74912d96f1cf1c192780ae96

https://news.gcu.edu/gcu-news/grand-canyon-university-appeals-unprecedented-decision-record-fine-from-u-s-department-of-education/

[Billy Hoyle]

Surprised the WCC accepted them with all their bad publicity.

https://apnews.com/article/grand-canyon-university-fine-college-6728cbbc74912d96f1cf1c192780ae96

https://news.gcu.edu/gcu-news/grand-canyon-university-appeals-unprecedented-decision-record-fine-from-u-s-department-of-education/

There had been pushback from the Presidents and FARs due to GCU's academic status being a safety school for Arizona State applicants more than anything else. But, with a possible loss of Gonzaga when the Pac 8/10/12/2 is reformed in two years (as a non-football member, like ND in the ACC) the appeal of GCU bringing in TV money was enough for them to ignore one can get into GCU with a GED, and only needs 2.5 gpa or a 19 ACT to get admitted. Of course, the mighty Big Ten demonstrated money wins out over academics when they took Nebraska.

[The Sultan]

There had been pushback from the Presidents and FARs due to GCU's academic status being a safety school for Arizona State applicants more than anything else. But, with a possible loss of Gonzaga when the Pac 8/10/12/2 is reformed in two years (as a non-football member, like ND in the ACC) the appeal of GCU bringing in TV money was enough for them to ignore one can get into GCU with a GED, and only needs 2.5 gpa or a 19 ACT to get admitted. Of course, the mighty Big Ten demonstrated money wins out over academics when they took Nebraska.

Any conference who prioritizes academic fit in this day and age deserves what they get.

[WhiteTrash]

There had been pushback from the Presidents and FARs due to GCU's academic status being a safety school for Arizona State applicants more than anything else. But, with a possible loss of Gonzaga when the Pac 8/10/12/2 is reformed in two years (as a non-football member, like ND in the ACC) the appeal of GCU bringing in TV money was enough for them to ignore one can get into GCU with a GED, and only needs 2.5 gpa or a 19 ACT to get admitted. Of course, the mighty Big Ten demonstrated money wins out over academics when they took Nebraska.

I remember when Arizona State was "THE SAFEST" of safety schools.

[The Sultan]

Stephen F. Austin returning to the Southland after a few years in the WAC. WAC will be down to 7 members. My guess is the three Texas schools will be looking toward the Southland too.