More conference realignment talk

[WhiteTrash]

2PAC?

We have a winner!

[brewcity77]

We have a winner!

QFT 

[The Sultan]

PAC12 is down to 2.

All that remains to be done is merge with the Mountain West, presumably under the PAC12 brand

The American has a better deal. Wonder if they might be an interested?

[El Guerrero 2]

It is so fucking funny SMU go the call before UConn.

[Litehouse]

I saw some comments about how the ACC is planning to host a lot of neutral site games/meets/events in Dallas for Olympic sports to help alleviate some of the travel burden.  It will be interesting to see how that plays out and if it's a potential option for the Big East with Gonzaga.  Big East could use Chicago as a central location for things like that.


Also, is a new Pac-12-Mountain-West merger a more appealing option for Gonzaga now?  I don't see Wash. St. and Oregon St. tipping the scales much, but who knows anymore???


Another thought... this makes the disintegration of the ACC less likely now.  Even if FSU, UNC & Clemson leave, they still have 15 schools to hold things together, at least for now.  Much lower chance now that some of the ACC schools would be left behind as potential options for the Big East.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Another thought... this makes the disintegration of the ACC less likely now.  Even if FSU, UNC & Clemson leave, they still have 15 schools to hold things together, at least for now.  Much lower chance now that some of the ACC schools would be left behind as potential options for the Big East.

It just delays it. When the time comes,  a lot more than FSU, UNC, and Clemson will end up leaving.  The ACC may still exist after but not as a power conference

[Scoop Snoop]

The ACC bought time. How much time? Nobody knows, I see the ACC as a sinking ship. Whether it sinks slowly or goes down like the Lusitania is the question.

[Herman Cain]

American targeting Army to replace SMU

Would then have Army and Navy in same conference

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2023/09/01/aac-wants-army-football-smu-leaves-for-acc-conference-realignment-report

[DFW HOYA]

American targeting Army to replace SMU

Would then have Army and Navy in same conference

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2023/09/01/aac-wants-army-football-smu-leaves-for-acc-conference-realignment-report

Memo to the Cadets: steer clear of that one. Does Army remember its days in Conference USA?

[muwarrior69]

SMU, Cal and Stanford are invited to join the ACC.

This must be very confusing to all those geography majors.

[brewcity77]

This must be very confusing to all those geography majors.

It's about time. Can't be the All Coasts Conference without the Pacific. Shame SMU isn't closer to the Gulf of Mexico, but I guess it'll do.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I believe I read it's for football only, same as Navy.
Army Navy game would be treated like an out of conference game so it could remain last game of season per tradition.

[muwarrior69]

It's about time. Can't be the All Coasts Conference without the Pacific. Shame SMU isn't closer to the Gulf of Mexico, but I guess it'll do.

Does Lake Michigan count for the Domers?

[brewcity77]

Does Lake Michigan count for the Domers?

I think so, but they really missed out on Washington because that would've given them the Puget Sound.

[Herman Cain]

Oregon State and Washington State have a meaningful inheritance as last men standing in Pac-12

https://theathletic.com/4826750/2023/09/01/oregon-state-washington-state-pac-12-mwc/?amp=1

[Dr. Blackheart]

Oregon State and Washington State have a meaningful inheritance as last men standing in Pac-12

https://theathletic.com/4826750/2023/09/01/oregon-state-washington-state-pac-12-mwc/?amp=1

The defaulted NCAA credits may be a cash windfall.

[forgetful]

To me the question regarding the PAC12 is will some type of deal emerge for teams to leave the MW/AAC to create a new PAC12 soon, or will everything wait until 2026 when the MW TV deal ends and the teams can leave without penalty.

There isn't a lot of benefit for Oregon/Washington St. to join the existing MW. Too many crap teams and not a significant TV deal. They can make more money off Tourney credits for the next several years than they would by joining the MW.

[cven7]

To me the question regarding the PAC12 is will some type of deal emerge for teams to leave the MW/AAC to create a new PAC12 soon, or will everything wait until 2026 when the MW TV deal ends and the teams can leave without penalty.

There isn't a lot of benefit for Oregon/Washington St. to join the existing MW. Too many crap teams and not a significant TV deal. They can make more money off Tourney credits for the next several years than they would by joining the MW.

The MWC has a lot of leverage here.  Oregon St. & Washington St. have less than a year to find a new conference or re-build the PAC, because without action, they have no TV deal & no conference games starting Fall 2024.  They'll have the windfall from the departed, but without conference foes to fill out the schedules (and very little time & opportunities to scrounge together other opponents), Oregon St. & Washington St. face even more program damage from missing games, not being televised, & losing even more recruits.

[The Sultan]

The MWC has a lot of leverage here.  Oregon St. & Washington St. have less than a year to find a new conference or re-build the PAC, because without action, they have no TV deal & no conference games starting Fall 2024.  They'll have the windfall from the departed, but without conference foes to fill out the schedules (and very little time & opportunities to scrounge together other opponents), Oregon St. & Washington St. face even more program damage from missing games, not being televised, & losing even more recruits.

I think OSU and WSU have more leverage than you think. From what I read, they actually can legally keep the Pac 12 together for another season beyond this one because the NCAA gives a one year exemption if a conference falls below the minimum of seven members.  So they could conceivably exist as a two member conference with the NCAA autobid in each championship, and maybe even a BCS playoff spot.

Now this could all be nonsense, but it would be kind of fun!

After next season, my understanding is the MWC grant of rights either goes away or becomes easier for those departing to manage. Therefore OSU and WSU can invite the more attractive schools to the Pac-12 (SDSU) while leaving the others behind (Wyoming).

[brewcity77]

OSU & WSU playing each other 8 times back and forth would be hilarious.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

OSU & WSU playing each other 8 times back and forth would be hilarious.

It would be like spending an afternoon on MUScoop.

[Dr. Blackheart]

OSU & WSU playing each other 8 times back and forth would be hilarious.

I always knew Dexter Akanno would be a conference player of the year based on his high school videos.

[Shooter McGavin]

I always knew Dexter Akanno would be a conference player of the year based on his high school videos.

Ha!  That's pretty funny.

[Herman Cain]

Interesting concept, possible schedule alliance with Wash State Oregon State  and Mountain West in 2024 and then possible merger .

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/09/02/mountain-west-future-pac-12-washington-state-oregon-state/amp/

[forgetful]

I think OSU and WSU have more leverage than you think. From what I read, they actually can legally keep the Pac 12 together for another season beyond this one because the NCAA gives a one year exemption if a conference falls below the minimum of seven members.  So they could conceivably exist as a two member conference with the NCAA autobid in each championship, and maybe even a BCS playoff spot.

Now this could all be nonsense, but it would be kind of fun!

After next season, my understanding is the MWC grant of rights either goes away or becomes easier for those departing to manage. Therefore OSU and WSU can invite the more attractive schools to the Pac-12 (SDSU) while leaving the others behind (Wyoming).

This is what I was getting at. OSU and WSU can wait it out. It's not like an offer to the MWC is going to go away.