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MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on June 10, 2022, 09:54:07 AM
Coaches ride with the ones that brung em.     There is no way that Kerr curtails DG's minutes in game 4 of the finals on the road.     DG may do it himself by getting a couple of tech's, but Kerr will not.

Tower, Udoka cut Smart's mins in G1 when he played poorly.  There's no law that you have to stick with players if they're brutal any given game.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 10, 2022, 10:07:52 AM
Tower, Udoka cut Smart's mins in G1 when he played poorly.  There's no law that you have to stick with players if they're brutal any given game.

So who should he have played?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 10, 2022, 10:07:52 AM
Tower, Udoka cut Smart's mins in G1 when he played poorly.  There's no law that you have to stick with players if they're brutal any given game.

Tell that to Bud about George Hill.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 10, 2022, 10:07:52 AM
Tower, Udoka cut Smart's mins in G1 when he played poorly.  There's no law that you have to stick with players if they're brutal any given game.

This is Marcus Smarts first finals.

Draymond has been a cog on 3 finals winning teams.

Kerr rides whats been built for years.

Also, you keep using extreme hyperbole to describe DG's perfromance. Hes been bad 2/3 games. But you keep acting like hes playing Division 3 level ball.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

The Sultan

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 10, 2022, 10:26:52 AM
Tell that to Bud about George Hill.

So are you suggesting he should have played Jevon Carter instead?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 10, 2022, 10:31:12 AM
So are you suggesting he should have played Jevon Carter instead?

Why not?  It's inconceivable he could have played worse than Hill.

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 10, 2022, 10:26:58 AM
This is Marcus Smarts first finals.

Draymond has been a cog on 3 finals winning teams.

Kerr rides whats been built for years.

Also, you keep using extreme hyperbole to describe DG's perfromance. Hes been bad 2/3 games. But you keep acting like hes playing Division 3 level ball.

He's been atrocious.  Now, hopefully he bounces back tonight but with all due respect he's been terrible and was a disaster Wednesday.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 10, 2022, 10:41:11 AM
Why not?  It's inconceivable he could have played worse than Hill.

Of course it's conceivable. 

And Hill's not the reason they lost.  They lost big minute guys Grayson Allen and Brook Lopez were terrible in games 6 and 7.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 10, 2022, 10:31:12 AM
So are you suggesting he should have played Jevon Carter instead?

I was hoping he'd go back to Carter at some point. Carter had a good Game 1 and was playing pretty well. At least if nothing else to give him a few minutes to see if he was able to give more than Hill.

Definitely not the reason they lost. Giving up wide open 3s on one end and then not able to hit the broad side of a barn on the other was a bigger reason.

MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on June 10, 2022, 09:01:37 AM
Hall of Famer Ben Wallace: 5.7 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 47.5% eFG%.

Wallace is a good comparison, wades, thanks for that.

Wallace was a top-level rebounder and shot-blocker for 5+ years, though, so he had the kind of statistical impact for an extended stretch that Green has never had.

Green has won 3x as many titles, but he's also been quite fortunate to be surrounded by three of the best shotmakers in NBA history.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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MuggsyB

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 10, 2022, 10:47:09 AM
Of course it's conceivable. 

And Hill's not the reason they lost.  They lost big minute guys Grayson Allen and Brook Lopez were terrible in games 6 and 7.

They also lost because Horford and then Grant Williams had career shooting games from distance. 

forgetful

Very poor officiating in game 4 so far, and all going the way of Boston.

Two poor foul calls against Looney early.

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on June 10, 2022, 08:28:26 PM
Very poor officiating in game 4 so far, and all going the way of Boston.

Two poor foul calls against Looney early.

Terrible
Terrible

Great point forgetful.

Kerr needs to play Wiggins as much as possible. You can't have Tatum or Brown guarded by a small. 

Robert Williams III continues to give GSW probs. 

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

forgetful

#2739
Quote from: User Name #251 on June 10, 2022, 08:42:39 PM
Cmon. The second one was a clear foul.

A player drove into a stationary Looney. Both announcers even said bad call.

But in general, the calls have been terrible. Overwhelmingly bad against the Warriors, but some real head scratchers against the Celtics too.


The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on June 10, 2022, 08:52:19 PM
A player drove into a stationary Looney. Both announcers even said bad call.


They were both wrong. As are you.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 10, 2022, 08:39:04 PM
Terrible
Terrible

Great point forgetful.

Kerr needs to play Wiggins as much as possible. You can't have Tatum or Brown guarded by a small. 

Robert Williams III continues to give GSW probs.


Agreed 100%

wadesworld

Draymond is almost as bad offensively as he is good defensively.

MuggsyB

Good point by JFG.  How many freaking times can you allow a team to go hard right? 

MuggsyB

Green isn't exactly helping tonight offensively.   What's lost in the stats is that while he's out there RWIIII can just patrol  the paint and help all over the floor.  Draymond isn't even looking at the rim unless he's 2 feet from the basket. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on June 10, 2022, 08:55:21 PM
Draymond is almost as bad offensively as he is good defensively.

Yep.  But he actually hasn't been good defensively either for most of these games.

wadesworld

Their biggest problems are Draymond went from doing just enough offensively between his passing, screening, diving, and hitting a 3 here or there to an absolute 0 (if that) offensively and Klay isn't even 80% of what he was pre injury. Wide open shots he used to hit at like 85% he's not shooting at like 45%. He's just not good enough.

MuggsyB

Green is getting abused by young RW3. Juan or Kuminga time?

MuggsyB

Danger time for GSW.  They're not getting easy buckets or FT"s. 

MuggsyB

#2749
How in the world wasn't that a foul on Tatum? 

Curry has to get some help.

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