2021-22 NBA Thread: The Bucks are Reigning Champs

[The Sultan]

It's counter to the narrative, but for the most part I think the refs have been fine outside of Game 3.

This series is so physical it's damn near impossible to keep any flow to it while calling it by the book. So the refs pick and choose their spots, some of which are... interesting.

The screening in this series could get whistled most every trip. Lots of extra hip/shoulder bumps and holds. Horford had two hands on Giannis while driving all night and it only got called once that I can remember. Giannis initiates a ton of contact, and it's hard to figure what's legit and embellished sometimes.

Lord knows I complain a bunch about college officiating, but the NBA refs have a ridiculously hard job, especially in a series like this one.

Yep yep.

[wadesworld]

It's counter to the narrative, but for the most part I think the refs have been fine outside of Game 3.

This series is so physical it's damn near impossible to keep any flow to it while calling it by the book. So the refs pick and choose their spots, some of which are... interesting.

The screening in this series could get whistled most every trip. Lots of extra hip/shoulder bumps and holds. Horford had two hands on Giannis while driving all night and it only got called once that I can remember. Giannis initiates a ton of contact, and it's hard to figure what's legit and embellished sometimes.

Lord knows I complain a bunch about college officiating, but the NBA refs have a ridiculously hard job, especially in a series like this one.

Agree with pretty much all of this.  Giannis has to absolutely suck to ref, and absolutely suck to play against.  He knows one speed and he's going through everything he can.

Overall I don't think the reffing has really favored one team or the other in this series or even in any individual games outside of game 3.  I thought the third quarter of game 4 favored the Bucks big, while almost all of game 3 favored the Celtics big.  Otherwise only really individual plays to complain about.  My biggest problem is WHERE the refs choose to blow their whistle.  In a vacuum in the regular season is that play a charge on Giannis?  Fine, I guess.  But in a game where you're letting Giannis get hammered every time he makes a move to the hoop, you can't fall for Smart's garbage flopping in a 4 point, 3 minutes left, 2-2 series to give Giannis his 4th foul.

Giannis has been called for 17 offensive fouls in the 10 Playoff games the Bucks have played so far.  Teams know the only way to stop Giannis is to fall over anytime there's contact.  It's just garbage basketball to me.  I know it's more the rule than the call.  But man does the NBA need to address flopping (both offensively trying to foul bate and defensively trying to get a charge call).

[tower912]

Eliminate the Eurostep while they are at it. 

[wadesworld]

Eliminate the Eurostep while they are at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu9p5EI5SGk

Show me where the travel is.  It's two steps.  We're going to create a violation based on the length of a step now?

[tower912]

Go back to the old rule.   

[wadesworld]

Go back to the old rule.   

Which was...?

[MU82]

As a few of you have said, the NBA must be a beyotch to officiate. Every possession longer than 5 seconds -- and even some of the shorter ones -- something or other could be called.

There's been some bad officiating in the playoffs so far, but I can't remember enough to compare it to previous years. To me, the worst was Game 4 of the Suns-Mavs series. The refs had a rough night overall, and those 2 phantom fouls they called on Chris Paul were absolutely horrific -- almost "is this game fixed?" bad.

[lawdog77]

As a few of you have said, the NBA must be a beyotch to officiate.

You should look at the last 2 minute reports from some of these games. It's  basically a dozen calls in the last 2 minutes that one could argue could really be called either way. Now multiply that by 24, and you can see how hard of a job they have.

[hairy worthen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu9p5EI5SGk

Show me where the travel is.  It's two steps.  We're going to create a violation based on the length of a step now?

Giannis looks like he travels, but he doesn't. He takes long strides and changes directions (Euro-step) that makes it look like a travel, but if you look at it again, he takes two steps. 

[MU82]

The only scene I remember from the old Bill Cosby show, the one where he played PE teacher Chet Kincaid, there was a kid who traveled badly during a drill or something. Cosby/Chet asks the kid if he knows how many steps a player is allowed, and the kid says, "Maybe around 3?"

[4everwarriors]

Nah man, 3 wuz da number of pills Ole Bill wood put in laides drinks, hey?

[MuggsyB]

Miami is rolling in Philly.  You have to give Jimmy a ton of credit.

[MuggsyB]

Doc looks extremely unhappy.  Is he gonzo from Philly?

[MuggsyB]

Strus over Harden?

[wadesworld]

Joel Embiid flopped his way into shredding Danny Green's knee. I'd be very unhappy if I was Danny Green. Embiid's been playing that dangerous game for years.

[withoutbias]

I know whose tape Jayson Tatum studies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanmarzion/status/1524863738616201219?t=ujMUHPPt_FrZf_n0ktTk6w&s=19

[MuggsyB]

I know whose tape Jayson Tatum studies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanmarzion/status/1524863738616201219?t=ujMUHPPt_FrZf_n0ktTk6w&s=19

Wow.  This is incredible stuff.  Ty.  I didn't realize he consistently does this garbage.

[MuggsyB]

Harden with zero pts on 2 shots in the 2nd half.  Can anyone explain this?

[PGsHeroes32]

Harden with zero pts on 2 shots in the 2nd half.  Can anyone explain this?

Hes an all time loser

[wadesworld]

Harden with zero pts on 2 shots in the 2nd half.  Can anyone explain this?

Ben Simmons, that you?

[Uncle Rico]

I know whose tape Jayson Tatum studies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanmarzion/status/1524863738616201219?t=ujMUHPPt_FrZf_n0ktTk6w&s=19

That's some Brad Davison crap

[Uncle Rico]

Hes an all time loser

Yup.  The minute the Sixers got him, they weren't a serious threat. 

[MuggsyB]

Hes an all time loser

No argument here but isn't it also like a Defcon 1 crazy stat?  Did he bet on Miami?  If my memory is accurate he couldn't play with Chris Paul, Durant, or Embiid?  He's the same guy who said "all Giannis can do is dunk".  I'm not sympathetic at all but it's kind of fascinating from NBA historical standpoint.  Maybe he's pissed he doesn't get 50 shots a game?  I can't figure it out.  I suppose it may be as simple as a loser is well....a loser?

[GB Warrior]

That's some Brad Davison crap

In defense of Brad, I don't think he does this sh!t, because he gets back in transition. The Celtics have routinely struggled in transition because they're getting off their ass or are bitching to officials.

[MU82]

Congrats to my favorite NBA player, James F Butler. Study series for a great warrior.