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The Sultan

But after reading Donovan's and Caruso's over the top comments, he will no doubt be suspended. Whining about this stuff usually works.  "Could have ended his career?"  Gimme a break.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Grayson Allen has been a dirty punk his entire basketball career, and now he has seriously injured an opponent with his actions.

History of behavior matters. The NBA needs to show it will not tolerate any more of it from this douchenozzle.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:10:08 PM
Grayson Allen has been a dirty punk his entire basketball career, and now he has seriously injured an opponent with his actions.

History of behavior matters. The NBA needs to show it will not tolerate any more of it from this douchenozzle.
The NCAA should do the same with Floppy McDickpuncher
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

wadesworld

What Allen did in college should have absolutely nothing to do with how the NBA reacts to a hard foul. From what I can find, he's never been suspended or even ejected in the NBA prior to last night. It'd be beyond absurd to suspend him because he has a history of dirty play...at an entirely different level of basketball.

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:10:08 PM
Grayson Allen has been a dirty punk his entire basketball career, and now he has seriously injured an opponent with his actions.

History of behavior matters. The NBA needs to show it will not tolerate any more of it from this douchenozzle.

History of what behavior?  He was kicked out of a summer league game in 2019. As far as I can tell, he hasn't been kicked out of an NBA game. He isn't some crazy repeat offender here. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:10:08 PM
Grayson Allen has been a dirty punk his entire basketball career, and now he has seriously injured an opponent with his actions.

History of behavior matters. The NBA needs to show it will not tolerate any more of it from this douchenozzle.

This. Clearly a multi-game suspension is coming and deserved.

MU82

Suspend the douchenozzle, a serial punk.

Not sure why FBM is defending such a POS ... but I'm 100% certain that if Allen were on the Bulls and he did that to Giannis, BLM would not be soft-pedaling a malicious act that led to Giannis suffering a broken wrist.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:34:13 PM
Suspend the douchenozzle, a serial punk.

Not sure why FBM is defending such a POS ... but I'm 100% certain that if Allen were on the Bulls and he did that to Giannis, BLM would not be soft-pedaling a malicious act that led to Giannis suffering a broken wrist.

Thanks for backing down on the whole let's look at his college days thing.

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:34:13 PM
Suspend the douchenozzle, a serial punk.

Not sure why FBM is defending such a POS ... but I'm 100% certain that if Allen were on the Bulls and he did that to Giannis, BLM would not be soft-pedaling a malicious act that led to Giannis suffering a broken wrist.


I'm just using logic and not emotion. (Something that clearly are unable to do.) He's not a serial offender and I don't believe that Caruso's injury should play any part in the decision.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Also the idea that his punishment should be different based on whether he injured someone or not is just as absurd as looking at what he did in college to determine his punishment. I agree that history of behavior should be looked at. Luckily for him, there is none in the league he's playing in. Then the question should be did the act deserve a suspension, not did the act injure someone?

The Sultan

Quote from: BLM on January 22, 2022, 04:48:03 PM
Also the idea that his punishment should be different based on whether he injured someone or not is just as absurd as looking at what he did in college to determine his punishment. I agree that history of behavior should be looked at. Luckily for him, there is none in the league he's playing in. Then the question should be did the act deserve a suspension, not did the act injure someone?

Yep yep. And I would say the same if Giannis were the injured one.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:34:13 PM
Suspend the douchenozzle, a serial punk.

Not sure why FBM is defending such a POS ... but I'm 100% certain that if Allen were on the Bulls and he did that to Giannis, BLM would not be soft-pedaling a malicious act that led to Giannis suffering a broken wrist.

Except there's zero indication it was malicious, you don't punish the result over the act,  and Allen was already punished for the act

NolongerWarriors

Really classy of the Bucks to mock the Bulls injured player with the twitter post featuring the pic of Allen (which they then deleted).

Uncle Rico

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on January 22, 2022, 05:33:08 PM
Really classy of the Bucks to mock the Bulls injured player with the twitter post featuring the pic of Allen (which they then deleted).

You going to be ok?
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Yes, I admit I'm emotional about a guy with a long history of dirty play injuring a fellow athlete with his latest dirty play.

Suspend the douchenozzle.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 06:51:49 PM
Yes, I admit I'm emotional about a guy with a long history of dirty play injuring a fellow athlete with his latest dirty play.

Suspend the douchenozzle.

Oh. So you're admittedly irrational then. I guess we know who not to pay attention to.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 22, 2022, 06:54:47 PM
Oh. So you're admittedly irrational then. I guess we know who not to pay attention to.

Well, reaction around the NBA agrees with me. And he's gonna get suspended. But you are free to "rationally" keep defending a dangerous punk with a long history of dirty play.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 07:01:17 PM
Well, reaction around the NBA agrees with me. And he's gonna get suspended. But you are free to "rationally" keep defending a dangerous punk with a long history of dirty play.

I'm not defending anyone.  He's not a repeat offender, which you were wrong about, so I don't think he should be suspended.

And I love Bulls' fans, who are breathless about how Jordan would dominate this "soft" NBA, are now crying about how this could have been career ending. (Lol)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on January 22, 2022, 05:33:08 PM
Really classy of the Bucks to mock the Bulls injured player with the twitter post featuring the pic of Allen (which they then deleted).
Good for you.   We know you are getting increasingly frustrated with MU's play.  So glad you found something else to lash out at.   Good job staying in character.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Fluffster, you've actually got this one right. If Allen's on your team, he's a baller who plays with his piss on. The same dude on the opposition and he's a dirty ass punk, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 22, 2022, 07:13:37 PM
Fluffster, you've actually got this one right. If Allen's on your team, he's a baller who plays with his piss on. The same dude on the opposition and he's a dirty ass punk, hey?

I don't get hung up on that stuff even when they're on the other team. It's just sports.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Honestly I think the first contact was just a hard foul. The second swipe deserved a flagrant.... but I don't think it contributed to Carusos injury. He was going to land hard and awkward after the initial contract which is unfortunate but not dirty. If the second swipe caused the injury, I'd be a little more outraged
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TAMU

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The Sultan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 22, 2022, 10:40:57 PM
Honestly I think the first contact was just a hard foul. The second swipe deserved a flagrant.... but I don't think it contributed to Carusos injury. He was going to land hard and awkward after the initial contract which is unfortunate but not dirty. If the second swipe caused the injury, I'd be a little more outraged

Exactly.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 22, 2022, 10:40:57 PM
Honestly I think the first contact was just a hard foul. The second swipe deserved a flagrant.... but I don't think it contributed to Carusos injury. He was going to land hard and awkward after the initial contract which is unfortunate but not dirty. If the second swipe caused the injury, I'd be a little more outraged

Completely disagree. The follow-through with the right hand absolutely changed the trajectory and speed of his fall. Absolutely a dirty play (except for Bucks fans with their heads up their asses, apparently).

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