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CreightonWarrior

Getting one on one at the goal line on 4th down in the conf championship game with 30 Seconds on a game deciding play and getting the stop should only show up in a movie script. That was awesome.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Pakuni on November 30, 2021, 08:48:25 AM
No.
ND's highest ranking in the final AP poll under Kelly was 4th. They finished unranked more often (four times) than they finished in the top 10 (three times). His record in major bowl games (playoffs or Jan. 1 group) is 0-4, losing by 28, 16, 27 and 17 points in those games. His winning percentage at ND is .739.

Let's compare him with Ara Parseghian. Four finishes in the AP top 3, including two national titles. 3-2 record in major bowl games. Two undefeated seasons. Zero seasons unranked. Nine seasons ranked in the top 10. Winning percentage at ND of .836.

Really, it's not close.
Other coaches with titles and better win percentages at ND: Dan Devine, Lou Holtz, Frank Leahy, Knute Rockne*.

* = pre AP final poll
Ara set the standard for ND Football. During his tenure they were consistently in The National Championship discussion literally every year . Their rivalry with USC during that time was incredible .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 04, 2021, 03:47:42 PM
Ara set the standard for ND Football. During his tenure they were consistently in The National Championship discussion literally every year . Their rivalry with USC during that time was incredible .

Ara's time and record is irrelevant to 2022
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MU82

ND's playoff chances improved significantly with the Okla State loss.

I'm a hater ... but I have to admit that it would be pretty cool if Kelly's replacement wins a title after Kelly left to have a better shot at a title.

Actually, he left for the $$$, but the other thing, too.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

CreightonWarrior

Dawgs/Tide is a lot of fun. Have no idea how Bryce Young was able to recover that football.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 04, 2021, 04:44:59 PM
Dawgs/Tide is a lot of fun. Have no idea how Bryce Young was able to recover that football.

A really important play on his part.  He's been incredible today after taking a beating last week at Auburn
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JWags85

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 04, 2021, 04:44:59 PM
Dawgs/Tide is a lot of fun. Have no idea how Bryce Young was able to recover that football.

He just threw an absolute ROCKET for that last TD.  He's unreal.

So, Bama, UGA, Michigan, and Cincy?  There is no way in hell they can put ND in over Cincy.  And Cincy thumping a ranked opponent today should be the coup de grace.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 05:21:36 PM
He just threw an absolute ROCKET for that last TD.  He's unreal.

So, Bama, UGA, Michigan, and Cincy?  There is no way in hell they can put ND in over Cincy.  And Cincy thumping a ranked opponent today should be the coup de grace.

Cincinnati is in. 
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The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 05:21:36 PM
He just threw an absolute ROCKET for that last TD.  He's unreal.

So, Bama, UGA, Michigan, and Cincy?  There is no way in hell they can put ND in over Cincy.  And Cincy thumping a ranked opponent today should be the coup de grace.

They can put ND in over a two loss Michigan.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 05:24:35 PM
They can put ND in over a two loss Michigan.

Right, but I can't see Michigan losing to a dogsh** Iowa team, but who knows.

Better Bama QB, Young or Tua?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 05:37:50 PM
Right, but I can't see Michigan losing to a dogsh** Iowa team, but who knows.

Better Bama QB, Young or Tua?

Young sure looks pretty poised back there.  He's less mobile than Tua, though it doesn't look that way tonight
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4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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Pakuni

Kirby Smart panicking into bad decisions against Bama is very on brand.

Mr. Nielsen

Even if Michigan rolls, watch the committee won't rematch Alabama/Georgia in the semi's.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

JWags85

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 04, 2021, 06:08:54 PM
Even if Michigan rolls, watch the committee won't rematch Alabama/Georgia in the semi's.

I thought maybe you make Bama #1 cause this is impressive as hell.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 06:19:01 PM
I thought maybe you make Bama #1 cause this is impressive as hell.

Assuming Bama holds on and Michigan wins...

Bama v Cincy
Georgia v Michigan
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 06:19:01 PM
I thought maybe you make Bama #1 cause this is impressive as hell.

I think he meant they'd put UGA at 3, which is kind of what I think they might do, too
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Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 06:22:15 PM
Assuming Bama holds on and Michigan wins...

Bama v Cincy
Georgia v Michigan

This seems correct. Doesn't really matter much who's #2 and who's #3.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 06:19:01 PM
I thought maybe you make Bama #1 cause this is impressive as hell.
If Michigan rolls, they should be #1. Yet, the committee is not going to put two SEC teams playing against each other if the semi's.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

The Sultan

Last SEC East team to beat Alabama?  The 2010 South Carolina Gamecocks.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 06:48:11 PM
Last SEC East team to beat Alabama?  The 2010 South Carolina Gamecocks.
I remember that game. It was a blowout. Long time ago now. Wow.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

BM1090

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 04, 2021, 06:45:20 PM
If Michigan rolls, they should be #1. Yet, the committee is not going to put two SEC teams playing against each other if the semi's.

Why should they be #1?

Mr. Nielsen

#724
Quote from: BM1090 on December 04, 2021, 06:51:02 PM
Why should they be #1?
Well, they are ahead of Alabama now. If, Michigan rolls they shouldn't be jumped. Poll era that wouldn't happen.

If there wasn't two SEC teams involved they wouldn't be jumped. They will be jumped to avoid a rematch in the semi's.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

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