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Author Topic: 2021-22 College Football thread  (Read 63553 times)

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #550 on: November 29, 2021, 07:12:30 PM »
Brian Kelly to LSU.

Allegedly

Kelly has done quite well at Notre Dame and has been recruiting incredibly well for ‘22 and ‘23.  I think if he does leave, Notre Dame would be very appealing for Luke Fickell and give the Irish a higher ceiling.
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #551 on: November 29, 2021, 07:17:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/1465487570092142597?t=lHmxtw0uoh3NPXLY2AHTUw&s=19

So Notre Dame will be looking at Fickell and Meyer. Anyone else?

Also, this is Brian saying it's easier to win a natty at LSU than ND, right?

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #552 on: November 29, 2021, 07:19:31 PM »
https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/1465487570092142597?t=lHmxtw0uoh3NPXLY2AHTUw&s=19

So Notre Dame will be looking at Fickell and Meyer. Anyone else?

Also, this is Brian saying it's easier to win a natty at LSU than ND, right?

Maybe I’m naive, but there’s no way Notre Dame can hire Urban Meyer?
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #553 on: November 29, 2021, 07:20:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/1465487570092142597?t=lHmxtw0uoh3NPXLY2AHTUw&s=19

So Notre Dame will be looking at Fickell and Meyer. Anyone else?

Also, this is Brian saying it's easier to win a natty at LSU than ND, right?

I was trying to figure out the reason. Notre Dame usually on the edge of the playoffs the reason? At LSU, schedule wouldn’t be an issue.

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #554 on: November 29, 2021, 07:30:02 PM »
Maybe I’m naive, but there’s no way Notre Dame can hire Urban Meyer?

Why? A kid died under Kelly's watch and nothing happened.

That said, I believe it will be Fickell.

I was trying to figure out the reason. Notre Dame usually on the edge of the playoffs the reason? At LSU, schedule wouldn’t be an issue.

The first think I thought of on this is ND has an above average chance to make the playoff this year and is in a better position than LSU most years, especially as long as Saban is around. What's the SEC West going to look like when UT and OU come in?
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #555 on: November 29, 2021, 07:33:27 PM »
https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/1465487570092142597?t=lHmxtw0uoh3NPXLY2AHTUw&s=19

So Notre Dame will be looking at Fickell and Meyer. Anyone else?

Also, this is Brian saying it's easier to win a natty at LSU than ND, right?

Or that he’s getting a sh*t ton of $$$$$.
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #556 on: November 29, 2021, 07:40:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/1465487570092142597?t=lHmxtw0uoh3NPXLY2AHTUw&s=19

So Notre Dame will be looking at Fickell and Meyer. Anyone else?

Also, this is Brian saying it's easier to win a natty at LSU than ND, right?

Fickell, yes. Meyer, no.
Notre Dame has no more ethics than anyone else, but they need to pretend they do. Urban would not allow them to do that.

As for Kelly, maybe he just got tired of losing to Saban only in the playoffs.

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #557 on: November 29, 2021, 08:10:33 PM »
I think we’ll look back at the contracts Mel Tucker and Frames Janklin got last week as a monumental event in the history of college football.  That was dumb money for an unproven coach and dumb money for a decent coach.  My guess is, a lot of agents stroked some egos this last week and guys who are better coaches than those two are licking their chops at the dollars out there.  I have no idea if USC or LSU would pay Tucker and Janklin the kind of money they got to stay home, but once that market was set, go big and they did and got better coaches
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« Reply #558 on: November 29, 2021, 08:17:19 PM »
It’s about acquiring the most talent in college football.  He’s already been crushing California recruiting at OU.  If he starts locking out the Alabama’s and Clemson’s that have been taking kids or at least keeping a few more home, he’ll have USC in the playoffs on a fairly regular basis.  Pete Carroll’s staffs killed it in recruiting.  Riley is young and energetic and has a reputation as an offensive genius.  It’s an incredible fit. 

Now, he could flame out for a variety of reasons but on paper, this hire could be a landscape changer, similar to Urban Meyer to Ohio State
Yep, also two Heisman Trophy winners at OU. It's harder to recruit at OU, than some think.

National TV executives love it. They want the west coast to matter. USC will matter in year 2. Grandslam hire!
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #559 on: November 29, 2021, 08:24:50 PM »
How about Pat Fitzgerald of Northwestern to ND?
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #560 on: November 29, 2021, 08:25:16 PM »
How about Pat Fitzgerald of Northwestern to ND?

Why not hire the leprechaun?
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #561 on: November 29, 2021, 08:32:13 PM »
How about Pat Fitzgerald of Northwestern to ND?

13-20 the past three seasons in a weak Big 10 West won't go over well with the Irish faithful.

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #562 on: November 29, 2021, 08:33:08 PM »
13-20 the past three seasons in a weak Big 10 West won't go over well with the Irish faithful.

I nominate Paul Cryst.
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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #563 on: November 29, 2021, 08:39:35 PM »
If not Fickell, Bill O'Brien?

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #564 on: November 29, 2021, 08:42:08 PM »
If not Fickell, Bill O'Brien?

They’d be better off with Matt Campbell or promoting Marcus Freeman to head coach.  Way higher ceilings than O’Brien.  Freeman is a rising star.  Rumor had it Ohio State was about to break the bank to make him their next DC.  Elite recruiter

Edit: Also sounds like O’Brien may be the front runner for VPI
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« Reply #565 on: November 29, 2021, 09:08:02 PM »
Or that he’s getting a sh*t ton of $$$$$.

I see Magnary is still sucking lemons.

And reports are $15 million a year for Kelly. Suddenly Mel Tucker isn’t overpaid.
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« Reply #566 on: November 29, 2021, 09:10:01 PM »
They’d be better off with Matt Campbell or promoting Marcus Freeman to head coach.  Way higher ceilings than O’Brien.  Freeman is a rising star.  Rumor had it Ohio State was about to break the bank to make him their next DC.  Elite recruiter

Edit: Also sounds like O’Brien may be the front runner for VPI

Campbell is a candidate, for sure. But I've got to imagine that would be seen as a major letdown by the fan base (which has outsized influence at Notre Dame ... just ask Ty Willingham).
Rising star or not, I'd be very surprised if Notre Dame hands the keys to a 35-year-old with zero head coaching experience and only one year at the school and as a P5 coordinator. They did something similar when Holtz stepped down and it didn't go great.
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« Reply #567 on: November 29, 2021, 09:45:45 PM »
Fickell, yes. Meyer, no.
Notre Dame has no more ethics than anyone else, but they need to pretend they do. Urban would not allow them to do that.

As for Kelly, maybe he just got tired of losing to Saban only in the playoffs.

While I agree that ND’s “ethics” are to a large degree PR, the fact remains that Brian Kelly will get kids into LSU that the admissions office at Notre Dame would have rejected.

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Re: 2021-22 College Football thread
« Reply #568 on: November 29, 2021, 10:10:22 PM »
I have no doubt Pete Carroll’s agent will be calling Notre Dame to gauge interest.

I don’t think ND would be interested, but I guarantee Pete would be.

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« Reply #569 on: November 29, 2021, 10:33:01 PM »
Rico, FBM & Others …

All good points re Riley to USC.

My knee-jerk instinct is usually to fight the hype machine, but y’all making compelling cases to Riley being the perfect hire.

I hope he is, because college football is a little more fun when USC is relevant.
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« Reply #570 on: November 29, 2021, 10:43:39 PM »
And again, as if I really needed another reason to think this way, this underscores why I don’t blame athletes one iota for skipping bowl games to get themselves ready for the NFL.

Hell, Kelly’s got a shot at playing for the national title at a storied program, and he “quit” to fatten his wallet.

Coaches are mercenaries who almost always look out for #1 … and it doesn’t even matter that they’re already making millions and that they’ve spent years preaching loyalty above all else.

They’ll bolt for a bigger check and a “better” job. Athletes shouldn’t get criticized for doing the same.
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« Reply #571 on: November 29, 2021, 10:43:52 PM »
I’m absolutely stunned that:

1) Notre Dame would somehow let someone with the success of Brian Kelly get away.

2) That Coach Kelly would somehow think LSU is a better situation than Notre Dame. It ain’t!

Look, winning in the SEC may mean more, but Kelly would be working for a fan base more entitled than Domers, with less reason to be so. If he thinks the Domers have high expectations, wait until he meets the Cajuns. They make Domer fans look disinterested.

If Coach O can’t make it at LSU, nobody can.

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« Reply #572 on: November 30, 2021, 05:16:07 AM »
I’m absolutely stunned that:

1) Notre Dame would somehow let someone with the success of Brian Kelly get away.

2) That Coach Kelly would somehow think LSU is a better situation than Notre Dame. It ain’t!

Look, winning in the SEC may mean more, but Kelly would be working for a fan base more entitled than Domers, with less reason to be so. If he thinks the Domers have high expectations, wait until he meets the Cajuns. They make Domer fans look disinterested.

If Coach O can’t make it at LSU, nobody can.

Coach O is a mess of a person.
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« Reply #573 on: November 30, 2021, 07:11:01 AM »
Coach O is a mess of a person.

And not an especially good head football coach.

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« Reply #574 on: November 30, 2021, 08:18:23 AM »
I’m absolutely stunned that:

1) Notre Dame would somehow let someone with the success of Brian Kelly get away.

2) That Coach Kelly would somehow think LSU is a better situation than Notre Dame. It ain’t!

Look, winning in the SEC may mean more, but Kelly would be working for a fan base more entitled than Domers, with less reason to be so. If he thinks the Domers have high expectations, wait until he meets the Cajuns. They make Domer fans look disinterested.

If Coach O can’t make it at LSU, nobody can.


The last three coaches at LSU have won national championships, and two of them were Les Miles and Ed Ogeron.

Brian Kelly is an excellent coach - way better than the last two who were there.  He recruits the south very well.  Nick Saban went down there as a midwest guy and killed it there.  Kelly will likely do the same though it will be a much tougher schedule to run through.

Put it this way, Kelly coached a one-loss Notre Dame team that is going to be shut out of the playoffs.  Legitimately so.  How much of a better situation is it really?
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