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Newsdreams

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on June 09, 2021, 11:02:23 AM
I don't get it. There are only 30 NBA teams. And most of them are already loaded with talent. There's not much room to take college drop outs.
So you don't get that now besides NBA looking at him, European league teams will probably be looking at him? Potential salary probably at least 100k, and he can finish college whenever he wants too...
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Quote from: The Lens on June 09, 2021, 11:54:50 AM
Both Garcia and Carton are most likely going to spend the next season or two well off NBA radar.  The question they have to ask is will they find places for development that exceed the program Shaka is putting together.  Given that Shaka competes with NCAA time regulations and academic requirements, they might very well.  There are a lot of ways to skin this cat and there are a number of situations better than college for development.  The key is to get your self into one of those.  It is easy to dismiss "college" but I would argue Shaka + Big East competition is a solid way to improve.

With G-League teams tied to specific NBA teams, I think they would have more exposure to the NBA than at MU. I think we sometimes think NBA scouts are just going off of what they see in ESPN.

Even if they are in Europe, they will be in radars. They were probably on nBA Scout radars on the AAU circuit.

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Hope Dawson performs well in the Combine. It is in MU's interest to put more players in the NBA.

There are a lot of quality prospects on the MU  team that are eager to absorb some of Dawson's minutes.
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lawdog77

Wondering out loud how many players nowadays (past 5 years), go to Europe after college, then play in the NBA for a prolonged period. Seems to me (and I could be wrong), kids nowadays will go to Europe to make some coin, those that think they have a good shot at the NBA will go G league first.

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Quote from: lawdog77 on June 09, 2021, 01:32:26 PM
Wondering out loud how many players nowadays (past 5 years), go to Europe after college, then play in the NBA for a prolonged period. Seems to me (and I could be wrong), kids nowadays will go to Europe to make some coin, those that think they have a good shot at the NBA will go G league first.


Mostly because G-League teams are tied to specific NBA franchises.
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lawdog77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 09, 2021, 01:34:41 PM

Mostly because G-League teams are tied to specific NBA franchises.
Right, I get that. I just question those that say Garcia will be going to Europe. I think its either NBA, G league, or back to school.

Nukem2

Quote from: lawdog77 on June 09, 2021, 01:46:02 PM
Right, I get that. I just question those that say Garcia will be going to Europe. I think its either NBA, G league, or back to school.
Yup, certainly at this early point in his career.

f/k/a humanlung

Quote from: lawdog77 on June 09, 2021, 01:32:26 PM
Wondering out loud how many players nowadays (past 5 years), go to Europe after college, then play in the NBA for a prolonged period. Seems to me (and I could be wrong), kids nowadays will go to Europe to make some coin, those that think they have a good shot at the NBA will go G league first.

Do European teams pay "set-for-life-after-a-few-years" money?  I honestly have no idea.

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Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on June 09, 2021, 01:52:40 PM
Do European teams pay "set-for-life-after-a-few-years" money?  I honestly have no idea.

Not set for life money but a few pay more than I make with a masters and a job in stem at 30yrs old.

If I was good at basketball and had the option of 6 figures at 19yrs old vs a feel good story about having a degree so I could work at enterprise working crap hours for 10yrs of crap money while cheersing with old people at alumni feel good events... well I know which route id take.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: lawdog77 on June 09, 2021, 01:46:02 PM
Right, I get that. I just question those that say Garcia will be going to Europe. I think its either NBA, G league, or back to school.
Not saying he will, but saying it will be a choice he will have.
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Quote from: lawdog77 on June 09, 2021, 01:32:26 PM
Wondering out loud how many players nowadays (past 5 years), go to Europe after college, then play in the NBA for a prolonged period. Seems to me (and I could be wrong), kids nowadays will go to Europe to make some coin, those that think they have a good shot at the NBA will go G league first.
Players who can not make the NBA , use the  foreign leagues to make a living playing basketball. It is not an easy or preferred way to go. Also the majority of players overseas are not making big dollars and have a hard time finding work no matter how talented they are. Look at Dwight Buycks for an example, had some stints in the NBA but couldn't stick. Has bounced around many teams and leagues overseas , was most recently cut from his French league team. Another good example is Lazar . First round draft choice but couldn't stick in the league. Tried to hang on through G League but nothing happened, went overseas for a year , tried to find work in the upper tier leagues but could not find any and was not willing to go the lower tier route the Dominic James did. So now Lazar is out of basketball.
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1SE

Quote from: Herman Cain on June 09, 2021, 02:01:42 PM
Players who can not make the NBA , use the  foreign leagues to make a living playing basketball. It is not an easy or preferred way to go. Also the majority of players overseas are not making big dollars and have a hard time finding work no matter how talented they are. Look at Dwight Buycks for an example, had some stints in the NBA but couldn't stick. Has bounced around many teams and leagues overseas , was most recently cut from his French league team. Another good example is Lazar . First round draft choice but couldn't stick in the league. Tried to hang on through G League but nothing happened, went overseas for a year , tried to find work in the upper tier leagues but could not find any and was not willing to go the lower tier route the Dominic James did. So now Lazar is out of basketball.

What's Lazar doing now? Couldn't find anything recent with some moderate googling.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: 1SE on June 09, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
What's Lazar doing now? Couldn't find anything recent with some moderate googling.

On an interview with Homer he said he's doing real estate.
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DienerTime34

Can't spell Garcia without G-O-W-N-E

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Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 09, 2021, 03:32:14 PM
On an interview with Homer he said he's doing real estate.

Haunted houses?
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Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: Newsdreams on June 09, 2021, 12:14:07 PM
So you don't get that now besides NBA looking at him, European league teams will probably be looking at him? Potential salary probably at least 100k, and he can finish college whenever he wants too...
Sounds like the end of college ball.

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Quote from: MU82 on June 09, 2021, 03:41:36 PM
Haunted houses?

I've been watching House Hunters: Comedians on Couches on Discovery+.
There is an episode where this couple was looking for a house outside Boston and one of the guy's criteria was no ghosts.  The whole episode he gave his thoughts on ghosts on the houses they were checking out and the comedians were loving it. 

MU82

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 09, 2021, 04:07:30 PM
I've been watching House Hunters: Comedians on Couches on Discovery+.
There is an episode where this couple was looking for a house outside Boston and one of the guy's criteria was no ghosts.  The whole episode he gave his thoughts on ghosts on the houses they were checking out and the comedians were loving it.

I hope nobody booed.
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Quote from: DienerTime34 on June 09, 2021, 03:35:08 PM
Can't spell Garcia without G-O-W-N-E

Actually you can. Pretty easily. Just gotta get that G.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Herman Cain

Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 09, 2021, 03:32:14 PM
On an interview with Homer he said he's doing real estate.
It was on that same interview , when he said he was still trying to play but couldn't find a home to play that wasn't in a war torn country.

He also came clean on the ghosts.
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 09, 2021, 04:03:59 PM
Why?
If so many kids want to skip college for the quick money and play ball in Timbuktu. That's why. I'd only target kids that want a degree. Do you remember student athletes. College ball is a lot more fun to watch than the NBA and Timbuktu.

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Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on June 09, 2021, 05:58:46 PM
If so many kids want to skip college for the quick money and play ball in Timbuktu. That's why. I'd only target kids that want a degree. Do you remember student athletes. College ball is a lot more fun to watch than the NBA and Timbuktu.

Was Al McGuire wrong for steering Jim Chones to a professional career?  I'm not sure there's been a time in history college basketball has ever been about the student athlete.  Big-time college basketball has always been about the university selling itself and making money.  Reading John Gasaway's book, "Miracles on the Hardwood", really reinforces that notion.  You want real student athletes?  Ok.  Get rid of all athletic scholarships
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on June 09, 2021, 05:58:46 PM
If so many kids want to skip college for the quick money and play ball in Timbuktu. That's why. I'd only target kids that want a degree. Do you remember student athletes. College ball is a lot more fun to watch than the NBA and Timbuktu.
LOL
So no Doc, no Wade among others. And plenty incredibly nice cities you can play at. Most of the guys in the early 80's team were not interested in a degree, that was obvious.
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