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Author Topic: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated  (Read 33001 times)

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https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996705810/shopping-without-a-mask-depends-on-where-you-live-despite-new-cdc-guidelines

I guess it will take a few days or weeks for businesses to decide how to handle the new guideline. I am in the camp that if you are not vaccinated it is up to you if you want to mask or not and accept the risk of getting sick. Vaccinated folks don't have to be as concerned or worried. However I will comply with mask wearing if the business still requires I do so.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2021, 06:43:08 AM »
. I am in the camp that if you are not vaccinated it is up to you if you want to mask or not and accept the risk of getting sick.
Not to start an argument, as that is not what message boards are for, but IF YOU ARE NOT VACCINATED, WEARING A MASK IS NOT MAINLY ABOUT KEEPING YOURSELF HEALTHY, IT IS ABOUT STOPPING THE SPREAD

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2021, 07:39:50 AM »
Not to start an argument, as that is not what message boards are for, but IF YOU ARE NOT VACCINATED, WEARING A MASK IS NOT MAINLY ABOUT KEEPING YOURSELF HEALTHY, IT IS ABOUT STOPPING THE SPREAD

But that is why they lifted the order.  Science is showing that those who are vaccinated do not spread the virus.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2021, 07:59:47 AM »
But that is why they lifted the order.  Science is showing that those who are vaccinated do not spread the virus.
I agree, but the OP states for those who are NOT vaccinated, it is up to you if you want to wear the mask

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2021, 08:03:28 AM »
Let's be real here.  People aren't going to be wearing masks regardless of their vaccination status.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2021, 10:13:30 AM »
Connecticut Governor announced last night he's lifting the masking order, for vaccinated people, on May 19.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2021, 10:58:15 AM »
Let's be real here.  People aren't going to be wearing masks regardless of their vaccination status.

Totally agree.

For the last year, a significant percentage of Americans have worn masks only when absolutely forced to. Zillions chose to go sans masks to Sturgis or to political rallies or to protests or to other large events (that turned out to be superspreader events).

So the idea that millions will "out" themselves as unvaccinated and will do the intelligent, unselfish thing by wearing masks ... as you say, ain't gonna happen.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2021, 11:12:54 AM »
Totally agree.

For the last year, a significant percentage of Americans have worn masks only when absolutely forced to. Zillions chose to go sans masks to Sturgis or to political rallies or to protests or to other large events (that turned out to be superspreader events).

So the idea that millions will "out" themselves as unvaccinated and will do the intelligent, unselfish thing by wearing masks ... as you say, ain't gonna happen.
Can't the government just scan people for their chips that were implemented at vaccination?

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2021, 11:34:07 AM »
To be honest, as a vaccinated person, I will be ignoring this.

A) Businesses will continue to enforce their mandates because it's too difficult and confrontational to attempt to have quality gates.
B) There's enough distrust out in society right now that I don't want to be accused of being an anti-vaxxer
C) Virtue signaling

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2021, 11:45:12 AM »
We have a mask mandate on campus.  So if you are inside a building, you have to be masked unless you are in your personal workspace with appropriate spacing.

So far today, I have had two people who have asked if we are lifting this mandate based on the announcement yesterday.  And they are people who took Covid quite seriously and are vaxxed up.

People are weary.  Yesterday's message I think felt quite liberating for many.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2021, 11:52:32 AM »
To be honest, as a vaccinated person, I will be ignoring this.

A) Businesses will continue to enforce their mandates because it's too difficult and confrontational to attempt to have quality gates.
B) There's enough distrust out in society right now that I don't want to be accused of being an anti-vaxxer
C) Virtue signaling

This +

I'm sure other factors have contributed to it (social distancing etc.), but the number of times that I've had even normal illness/colds has practically been zero over the last 18 months (only sick days have been when I ate something that my body really didn't agree with).  Plus, wearing a mask is literally the smallest inconvenience I can think of.  It's just like wearing glasses, where I forget I have it on after about 5 minutes.  I will gladly enjoy going to sporting events/concerts again, but the only reason I can think of not to do those masked, is if I'm going to be eating/drinking, which I almost never do because of the absurd prices.  Glad to be able to go out and do things again, but will probably do them masked.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2021, 11:52:45 AM »
To be honest, as a vaccinated person, I will be ignoring this.

A) Businesses will continue to enforce their mandates because it's too difficult and confrontational to attempt to have quality gates.
B) There's enough distrust out in society right now that I don't want to be accused of being an anti-vaxxer
C) Virtue signaling

I rarely wear a mask outside, especially when I'm running, biking, or hiking. I do carry one and put it on if I'm walking by a crowded area. I'll continue to respect private business rules if they require them (restaurants, gyms, stores), but I won't give into mask shaming (the PNW has a lot of those who go after people who don't wear masks). Considering I didn't get a cold or the flu over the winter mask-wearing in certain circumstances is something I'll continue.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2021, 12:46:53 PM »
I rarely wear a mask outside, especially when I'm running, biking, or hiking. I do carry one and put it on if I'm walking by a crowded area. I'll continue to respect private business rules if they require them (restaurants, gyms, stores), but I won't give into mask shaming (the PNW has a lot of those who go after people who don't wear masks). Considering I didn't get a cold or the flu over the winter mask-wearing in certain circumstances is something I'll continue.

As a fellow PNW resident, people back in the midwest are shocked when I've told them that most people wear masks walking down the sidewalk out here. Even if you drive a county or two over, it's like the mask mandate doesn't exist.

That said, I saw a noticeable difference in the amount of people maskless outside yesterday. I honestly did not expect a turnaround this quick, mostly because of the peer pressure you pointed out, but it shows that just about everyone is eager to ditch the masks once they know it's safe. It feels good to finally be going back to normal.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2021, 01:39:52 PM »
We have a mask mandate on campus.  So if you are inside a building, you have to be masked unless you are in your personal workspace with appropriate spacing.

So far today, I have had two people who have asked if we are lifting this mandate based on the announcement yesterday.  And they are people who took Covid quite seriously and are vaxxed up.

People are weary.  Yesterday's message I think felt quite liberating for many.

This is a good post. I no longer feel ANY compulsion to wear a mask. Yet I will do it out of respect for people in businesses that require it.

And yes, I feel totally liberated. I was just at a Stein's store - outdoors area - and did not wear a mask. Probably 75% of people WERE still wearing them. I didn't notice one single person looking at me like I was doing something wrong.

Happy days are returning. While Biden deserves a lot of credit for the logistics of getting us to this point, it is the American people (the majority, anyways) who made this happen.

It's often hard to feel that way with everything that's happening, but it is a great sign for our future.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2021, 01:55:57 PM »
LOL, too difficult to acknowledge President Trump's role in getting the vaccine developed, into production, and ready for American arms by December 2020. Shame on you, aina?
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2021, 02:09:18 PM »
LOL, too difficult to acknowledge President Trump's role in getting the vaccine developed, into production, and ready for American arms by December 2020. Shame on you, aina?

He certainly deserves some credit.  Though it would be a lot better if he publicly took the vaccine and promoted taking it as much as he promotes other concepts. 

Imagine if he went on Tucker Carlson and said Take the Vaccine.  Imagine if he told Ron Johnson to shut up. 

He might just guarantee his W in 2024.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2021, 02:25:36 PM »
The Lens,

All that might have been a good idea, but it does not take away Trump's contribution to the vaccine. I really struggle with folks being unable to acknowledge anything good from the right without having a criticism or disclaimer.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2021, 02:32:34 PM »
The Lens,

All that might have been a good idea, but it does not take away Trump's contribution to the vaccine. I really struggle with folks being unable to acknowledge anything good from the right without having a criticism or disclaimer.

First, I have to laugh at underlined being said to me, as I have been a card carrying GOPer my whole life. 

Second, Operation Warp Speed was amazing but it wasn't ground breaking.  Pfizer & Germany’s BioNTech beat Warp Speed to market, the US wasn't the first to receive vaccines and nearly a dozen other vaccines have been developed.   Essentially Trump kept pace with the rest of the world.  Feels kinda like the Wojo era, meh.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2021, 02:34:58 PM »
Interesting how the vaccine was announced by the drug companies right after Nov. 3, hey?
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2021, 02:39:14 PM »
Interesting how the vaccine was announced by the drug companies right after Nov. 3, hey?

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2021, 02:41:51 PM »
Lens you might be about to follow in the footsteps of Liz Cheney if you don't get on board!
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2021, 02:45:08 PM »
Lens you might be about to follow in the footsteps of Liz Cheney if you don't get on board!

I'm definitely Team Liz.  Or put another way, I'm homeless.
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2021, 02:46:36 PM »
Interesting how the vaccine was announced by the drug companies right after Nov. 3, hey?

Wouldn't have mattered if he took it more seriously from the beginning. 
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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2021, 02:46:44 PM »
As a fellow PNW resident, people back in the midwest are shocked when I've told them that most people wear masks walking down the sidewalk out here. Even if you drive a county or two over, it's like the mask mandate doesn't exist.

That said, I saw a noticeable difference in the amount of people maskless outside yesterday. I honestly did not expect a turnaround this quick, mostly because of the peer pressure you pointed out, but it shows that just about everyone is eager to ditch the masks once they know it's safe. It feels good to finally be going back to normal.

I was running one evening (downtown, which is even more dead at night than normal) and not wearing a mask. This woman walked in the direction I was running and started yelling at me for not wearing a mask. What amused me is she pulled down her mask to do it.

One response to how people are responding to mask mandates I've seen is "I'm going to wear a mask because I don't want to be looked as a Trump supporter." There's some hardcore virtue signaling. But them it does hit on the articles I posted elsewhere about some who "can't quit the pandemic" due to partisan beliefs.

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Re: CDC suspends social distancing and masks if fully vaccinated
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2021, 02:47:32 PM »
4ever has it nailed, we’ve come a long way in a year.  This is the one year anniversary of “if we didn’t do testing we would have very few cases”.

 

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