2021-2022 NFL Season

[JWags85]

Isn't the most logical explanation for why Rodgers has so many failed relationships, with women, family members, etc., mostly due to him being a bit of a prick more than him being gay?

Could be, could be both.  Its all just speculation.  And FWIW, a lot of the rumors about his sexuality started well before his reputation and penchant for being a prick was widely known (shrug)

Michael Sam was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year and an All American in a 4-3 scheme. He earned his opportunities. And, he received less opportunities than he had earned.

Seven year of crickets went by after Sam.

He was a supremely accomplished college player...but then again so were Tim Tebow and Jeremy Cash, both had limited to no NFL success.  The latter was ACC DPOY and consensus AA who wasn't even drafted.

Sam was talked about as a 3rd-4th round pick before he ever came out, then he had a terrible combine.  He was projected as too small to be an NFL DE and was not fast enough to be an effective OL.  Dee Ford, another converted DE to OLB that year, ran almost a half second faster in the 40 and had a 10 in higher vertical and 12 more reps in the bench.

He was drafted.  He spent time on 2 different rosters.  The NFL is a different animal than college, completely.  I'm not saying the NFL is a beautiful accepting utopia, but there were very marked pure football reasons he didn't get tons of NFL shine.

[shoothoops]

Charlie Ward was the Heisman winner, wasn't drafted, and never played an NFL game. Your point?

Sam was too small to be a DE, too slow be an outside LB, and disappointed greatly at the combine. Then he quit the CFL after one game.  It was a shame too, I wanted him to succeed.

Charlie Ward played 12 years in the NBA. He was expected to be a 3rd round NFL draft pick as some NFL teams were uncertain of his desire to play football vs basketball. You left that part out.

Michael Sam was a projected 3rd, 4th round pick that was drafted in the 7th round.

My point was and is Sam did not receive more opportunities because he was gay. He received less because of it. He was widely supported by his teammates, coaches, university despite all of the national Westboro Baptist Church esque discrimination that he endured.

[Pakuni]

@AdamSchefter
Rams’ QB Matthew and Kelly Stafford announced they will be covering the medical expenses for Kelly Smiley, who fell off a stage during Wednesday’s Super Bowl parade and fractured her spine: “We have been in communication with Kelly Smiley ... and we are sorry for what happened.”

[jesmu84]

About the serious fall of the photographer at the Rams rally, she has a gofund me page started by her peers, for her fractured spine and medical bills:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/r85ce-help-kelly-get-back-on-her-feet

Universal healthcare badly needed in this country

[JWags85]

@AdamSchefter
Rams’ QB Matthew and Kelly Stafford announced they will be covering the medical expenses for Kelly Smiley, who fell off a stage during Wednesday’s Super Bowl parade and fractured her spine: “We have been in communication with Kelly Smiley ... and we are sorry for what happened.”

Good on them and not entirely surprising.  The mini video clip wasn't great, but we've all had a "oh sh**" yikes moment when someone eats it nearby, especially when not totally sober as I'm sure Stafford was not.  Obviously he didn't know she was severely injured at the time.  But the Staffords have a pretty long track record of charitable deeds, especially driven by Kelly, so this makes sense.

[Uncle Rico]

Universal healthcare badly needed in this country

Indeed

[tower912]

It would have been out of character for them to not do something like this.  There are reasons beyond football that Detroit was rooting for him.

[Jockey]

Good to hear.

[4everwarriors]

Universal healthcare badly needed in this country

Yeah, cuz dats werked sew well inn udder kountries, aina?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yeah, cuz dats werked sew well inn udder kountries, aina?

Actually it has.

https://www.crossfirekm.org/articles/health-and-wealth-part-ii-the-american-and-german-healthcare-systems-compared#:~:text=In%20the%20US%2C%20healthcare%20is,per%20capita%20for%20our%20healthcare.&text=Average%20out%20of%20pocket%20spending,is%20through%20the%20sickness%20funds.

"Of 17 high-income countries studied by the National Institutes of Health, the United States in 2013 had the highest or near-highest prevalence of a multitude of negative indicators, including but not limited to: obesity, infant mortality, heart and lung disease, STIs, adolescent pregnancies, and injuries.

A 2017 survey of the healthcare systems found the US healthcare system to be the most expensive and worst-performing in terms of health access, efficiency, and equity among developed countries. All this despite the fact that we spend about $10,207 per person on healthcare annually. "

[Hards Alumni]

Yeah, cuz dats werked sew well inn udder kountries, aina?

I can't tell if you're joking but this take is astronomically stupid if you're not.

[jesmu84]

Color me unsurprised

[4everwarriors]

I can't tell if you're joking but this take is astronomically stupid if you're not.

This isn't hard and there's a simple answer. If you don't like the systems and policies in place in this country, then move the fook somewhere else where you'll be happier. Certainly, the UK, Canada, Argentina, Spain, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and others would welcome accomplished transport operators, PAs, school administrators, retired underwear salesmen, and VPs, aina?

[cheebs09]

Packers hiring Clements for QB coach. I have to think they are reasonably confident Rodgers is coming back.

Are there a lot of 68 year old position coaches?

[Uncle Rico]

Packers hiring Clements for QB coach. I have to think they are reasonably confident Rodgers is coming back.

Are there a lot of 68 year old position coaches?

Packers aren’t a serious organization

[Pakuni]

Are there a lot of 68 year old position coaches?

Maybe not a lot, but definitely some really good ones.

Rod Marinelli, possibly the GOAT of D-line coaches, just retired at 72.
Bill Callahan, arguably the best O-line coach in the game, is 65.
Dante Scarnecchia, who was Callahan's main competition as best O-line coach, retired last year at 72.
Alex Gibbs, probably the best O-line coach ever, coached until he was 70.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

This isn't hard and there's a simple answer. If you don't like the systems and policies in place in this country, then move the fook somewhere else where you'll be happier. Certainly, the UK, Canada, Argentina, Spain, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and others would welcome accomplished transport operators, PAs, school administrators, retired underwear salesmen, and VPs, aina?

Nah. I love this country so much that I want to make it better!  It has so much potential but is falling short.

[withoutbias]

This isn't hard and there's a simple answer. If you don't like the systems and policies in place in this country, then move the fook somewhere else where you'll be happier. Certainly, the UK, Canada, Argentina, Spain, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and others would welcome accomplished transport operators, PAs, school administrators, retired underwear salesmen, and VPs, aina?

Sez dah guy hoo sitz on da police skanner all dey two skare people phrom going two kampus bekauz gunz, hay?

But also, sekond ammendment.  If you kan't support dat, den get out!

[Pakuni]

This isn't hard and there's a simple answer. If you don't like the systems and policies in place in this country, then move the fook somewhere else where you'll be happier.

Said King George to the Continental Congress.
Said John Calhoun to the abolitionists
Said Bull Connor and Ross Barnett to the Civil Rights marchers.
Fine company you keep, doc.

[MU82]

This isn't hard and there's a simple answer. If you don't like the systems and policies in place in this country, then move the fook somewhere else where you'll be happier.

Glad you've 100% bought into the systems and policies put in place by the Biden administration. It took a little while for you to stop worshiping his predecessor, but it's nice you've come around.

[4everwarriors]

FD has da Bidas Touch. Everythin' he puts his mitts on turns ta 💩, aina?

[Uncle Rico]

FD has da Bidas Touch. Everythin' he puts his mitts on turns ta 💩, aina?

Politics

[TSmith34, Inc.]

This isn't hard and there's a simple answer. If you don't like the systems and policies in place in this country, then move the fook somewhere else where you'll be happier. Certainly, the UK, Canada, Argentina, Spain, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and others would welcome accomplished transport operators, PAs, school administrators, retired underwear salesmen, and VPs, aina?

"Oh, you totally destroyed my argument with facts? Well love it or leave it, commie loser!"

What a Buffon

[lawdog77]

Actually it has.

https://www.crossfirekm.org/articles/health-and-wealth-part-ii-the-american-and-german-healthcare-systems-compared#:~:text=In%20the%20US%2C%20healthcare%20is,per%20capita%20for%20our%20healthcare.&text=Average%20out%20of%20pocket%20spending,is%20through%20the%20sickness%20funds.

"Of 17 high-income countries studied by the National Institutes of Health, the United States in 2013 had the highest or near-highest prevalence of a multitude of negative indicators, including but not limited to: obesity, infant mortality, heart and lung disease, STIs, adolescent pregnancies, and injuries.

A 2017 survey of the healthcare systems found the US healthcare system to be the most expensive and worst-performing in terms of health access, efficiency, and equity among developed countries. All this despite the fact that we spend about $10,207 per person on healthcare annually. "

I am still dumfounded that our infant mortality is so high. I don't get that one. The other's I get (bad diet, smoking, playing hide the salami, and stupidity play a big factor in those). Medicaid and CHIP programs pretty much should cover everyone, and there is a boatload of prenatal courses, preventative care offered. Those over income should be able to get on a ACA policy with little or no premium.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I am still dumfounded that our infant mortality is so high. I don't get that one. The other's I get (bad diet, smoking, playing hide the salami, and stupidity play a big factor in those). Medicaid and CHIP programs pretty much should cover everyone, and there is a boatload of prenatal courses, preventative care offered. Those over income should be able to get on a ACA policy with little or no premium.

Well you can’t just isolate infants from the rest of health care. When you have a significant portion of the population that doesn’t have good access to health care they aren’t going to seek it out for their children either.

I think a more generous family leave policy would be helpful. There are also home health visits for newborns in other countries as well.