2021-2022 NFL Season

[Pakuni]

More than the FG attempt last night, I don't get why the Patriots didn't run on the last drive. Six passes zero runs. Plenty of time to get into FG range, plus less time for the Bucs to drive back down if you make it.

They couldn't run all night. Couldn't handle Vea in particular. Eight carries for -1 yards. Biggest run of the night was Nelson Algholor for 4 yards on a jet sweep.
Given those results, the patchwork Bucs secondary and Jones success on the night, I can't blame them for not running. Short passing game was so much more effective.

[tower912]

Tampa run defense good.
Tampa pass defense meh.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

If you need a laugh, here’s McAfee talking about the Urban Meyer situation. He couldn’t keep it together.

https://youtu.be/2S_RkZImhNQ

[MU82]

More than the FG attempt last night, I don't get why the Patriots didn't run on the last drive. Six passes zero runs. Plenty of time to get into FG range, plus less time for the Bucs to drive back down if you make it.

I think a run on 3rd-and-3 could have been especially effective; you do it with the understanding that if you don't get the first down, you'll go for it on 4th down.

But that's a minor quibble compared to the decision to try a 56-yard FG in a driving rainstorm.

[jesmu84]

If you need a laugh, here’s McAfee talking about the Urban Meyer situation. He couldn’t keep it together.

https://youtu.be/2S_RkZImhNQ

Urban probably coaching from the box next week since he's on IR with sprained fingers.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Urban probably coaching from the box next week since he's on IR with sprained fingers.

He's already been in too many boxes this week

[JWags85]

He's already been in too many boxes this week

Both of these are well done, kudos.

Adding to Urban the unrepentant douche...he claims he was at dinner with his grandkids in a private room and some people wanted a picture, so he went over to indulge them and they were trying to "FORCE" him to drink and dance, etc...What an assclown

[Herman Cain]

He's always drafted pretty "meh," but his hits have been all-time hits. As a GM, he's been really good at identifying when a player on another team can be useful for him (Moss, Welker, Gilmore, Revis, etc.) and when to cut bait on star players on his roster.

I think the Pats made a good decision to draft Mac Jones, however I question their decision to cut bait on Cam.

I also thought the Pats did bring in some good free agents. Judon looks particularly strong.  I think in a year the team will be competitive again.

[🏀]

I think the Pats made a good decision to draft Mac Jones, however I question their decision to cut bait on Cam.

I also thought the Pats did bring in some good free agents. Judon looks particularly strong.  I think in a year the team will be competitive again.

Totally agree on Cam. Just look at the value he’s bringing to the _________ organization.

[MuggsyB]

Hebert looks like the real deal to me. 

[Herman Cain]

Totally agree on Cam. Just look at the value he’s bringing to the _________ organization.

Good point.

[JWags85]

Totally agree on Cam. Just look at the value he’s bringing to the _________ organization.

I have always liked Cam, but he has a ton of mileage on him and his arm is shot after the shoulder injuries.  He just wasn't the same player

[forgetful]

Belichick is a top-5 coach in NFL history. He coached a fine game last night. I never said otherwise.

But even great coaches who are having fine games can make poor decisions ... and he made a very poor decision at the end, one with a lower chance of success than his other option.

Changing the subject to "Belichick neutered Brady" doesn't change any of the above.

As for the stat I quoted, it's simply a fact. As is this: Brady has won a championship without Belichick; Belichick has won zip without Brady. There is all kinds of nuance, and many points that could be debated ... but that's an irrefutable fact, as is Belichick's career .453 winning percentage in games in which he didn't have the greatest QB of all time under center.

My apologies. Didn't really mean it as a disagreement, rather just printing out what Belichick did really well. And also pointing out TB grossly underperforming in that game.

Really meant it as a different, but related topic.

[MU82]

My apologies. Didn't really mean it as a disagreement, rather just printing out what Belichick did really well. And also pointing out TB grossly underperforming in that game.

Really meant it as a different, but related topic.

We're good, forgetful. Thanks for the response.

[MuggsyB]

I was watching some of Kyler Murray's high school highlights?  Beyond belief and I think he was only 5'5.  He may be the best athlete since Bo Jackson?   He was also apparently great in basketball before he gave it up for football and baseball.  And he was a tremendous youth chess player.  The guy is slightly talented.  I think he's closer to 5'8. 

[MU82]

I was watching some of Kyler Murray's high school highlights?  Beyond belief and I think he was only 5'5.  He may be the best athlete since Bo Jackson?   He was also apparently great in basketball before he gave it up for football and baseball.  And he was a tremendous youth chess player.  The guy is slightly talented.  I think he's closer to 5'8.

Yep, he's a hell of an athlete and a damn good QB. But here's the big question:

Could you post him up? Or vice versa?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I was watching some of Kyler Murray's high school highlights?  Beyond belief and I think he was only 5'5.  He may be the best athlete since Bo Jackson?   He was also apparently great in basketball before he gave it up for football and baseball.  And he was a tremendous youth chess player.  The guy is slightly talented.  I think he's closer to 5'8.

Kevin Sumlin mismanaging two 5-star QBs, both of whom ended up playing in the NFL including 1 superstar, leading to both of them transferring is one of the single worst college football coaching gaffes in modern history.

[MuggsyB]

Yep, he's a hell of an athlete and a damn good QB. But here's the big question:

Could you post him up? Or vice versa?

Keep in mind basketball was his 3rd sport and also apparently behind his passion for chess.  When he decided to give it a whirl in middle school he started slowly offensively, but was so quick that he dominated defensively and had all the intangibles according to his coaches.  He would have easily been a high D-1 player and probably a pro if he wanted that.  I'm pretty sure he could destroy me in every area of the floor...  except free throws.  I want to play him in chess.  He has what I call zoomability.  I was laughing watching him shred dudes in high school .

[MuggsyB]

Kevin Sumlin mismanaging two 5-star QBs, both of whom ended up playing in the NFL including 1 superstar, leading to both of them transferring is one of the single worst college football coaching gaffes in modern history.

Oh..... I didn't realize that.  Whoops. 

[JWags85]

Kevin Sumlin mismanaging two 5-star QBs, both of whom ended up playing in the NFL including 1 superstar, leading to both of them transferring is one of the single worst college football coaching gaffes in modern history.

And who knows what would have happened with Manziel if he didn't have Kingsbury on staff at the time

[MU82]

Keep in mind basketball was his 3rd sport and also apparently behind his passion for chess.  When he decided to give it a whirl in middle school he started slowly offensively, but was so quick that he dominated defensively and had all the intangibles according to his coaches.  He would have easily been a high D-1 player and probably a pro if he wanted that.  I'm pretty sure he could destroy me in every area of the floor...  except free throws.  I want to play him in chess.  He has what I call zoomability.  I was laughing watching him shred dudes in high school .

You might have the quickness advantage on him when it comes to chess. I hear he's especially weak castle-ing to his left.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

You might have the quickness advantage on him when it comes to chess. I hear he's especially weak castle-ing to his left.

You picked that up from just a chess mixtape?

[MuggsyB]

You might have the quickness advantage on him when it comes to chess. I hear he's especially weak castle-ing to his left.

Ha!  I'm decent but I'm sure he's better.  A friend of mine is a very good player and plays a lot of online tournaments.  I think his Elo rating is like 1900.  A few months ago he played in a speed tournament with Wesley So who is the #1 ranked American and top 10 in the world.  Basically the grandmasters just do this for fun and are kind of dicking around for kicks.  These guys are so good it's seriously ridiculous.  I would recommend the Doc on Magnus Carlsen.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

It kinda sounds like the Jags owner wants Urban to walk away saying that he has to regain the trust and confidence of the organization.  I didn't think this was going to work, but didn't think it would get this bad after only four weeks.

[cheebs09]

It kinda sounds like the Jags owner wants Urban to walk away saying that he has to regain the trust and confidence of the organization.  I didn't think this was going to work, but didn't think it would get this bad after only four weeks.

I figured he’d at least outperform Petrino.

Based on the below thread, I’m not sure how he lasts much longer.

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1445403401660084243?s=20