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The Sultan

#1250
October 06, 2021, 10:21:35 AM
The Athletic always seems to want to be first out the door with things like this instead of waiting to see what insiders say.  I think within 24 hours of Clay Helton's firing, they had a list of potential USC coaches that you or I could have drawn up.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BrewCity83

#1251
October 06, 2021, 10:32:25 AM
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

MU82

#1252
October 06, 2021, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2021, 10:21:09 AM
Josina Anderson says Gilmore is looking for $15 million.
Not a lot of teams have that kind of cap space in October.

If that's the case I don't want the Panthers to sign him.

We have two good young CBs, including one who needs to get paid after this season.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

#1253
October 06, 2021, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2021, 10:21:09 AM
Josina Anderson says Gilmore is looking for $15 million.
Not a lot of teams have that kind of cap space in October.

Edit: According to Over the Cap, four teams have more than $15 million in cap space currently: Jacksonville, Philly, Denver and Carolina.

The $15 mil would be prorated down to $12 for the balance of the season.

Guessing he'd sign a multi year deal with voidable years tacked on the back end. Probably winds up taking around the veteran minimum in salary with $10-$12 mil signing bonus. That would reduce his 2021 cap hit, and open up his market to get a higher guaranteed pay day (off the signing bonus), and let a team worry about the future cap hits down the road.

Pakuni

#1254
October 06, 2021, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2021, 10:33:02 AM
If that's the case I don't want the Panthers to sign him.

We have two good young CBs, including one who needs to get paid after this season.

Well, you got him anyhow.
Traded a 6th round pick for him.

MU82

#1255
October 06, 2021, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2021, 12:34:45 PM
Well, you got him anyhow.
Traded a 6th round pick for him.

That's cool as long as the team doesn't make a multi-year, huge-money commitment to a 31-year-old at a speed position. The Panthers' owner is the richest guy in the NFL, they had cap space, and they had a need because their 1st-round draft pick who was playing outstanding football got hurt and might be done for the season.

Gilmore is on the injured list and can't play until Week 7 ... but the Panthers must have had assurances that he'll be 100% after that, and I assume they already have talked to his agent to make sure he'd be willing to come here and play. He's from a Charlotte suburb and still has family here.

As a Panthers fan, I am pleased that they obviously believe they can win this year. They are going for it, and that's always nice to see when you're a fan of a team.

And it was worth a 6th-round draft pick to keep the Bucs from getting him.

My only reluctance is with the way the $$ will shake out, especially because they have a very good 5th-year CB (Donte Jackson) who needs to get paid after this season, so we'll see.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

#1256
October 06, 2021, 01:21:29 PM
Packers fans went from loving him to saying he wasn't any good at warp speed today
Guster is for Lovers

BrewCity83

#1257
October 06, 2021, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2021, 01:21:29 PM
Packers fans went from loving him to saying he wasn't any good at warp speed today
Remember, there's a lot of overlap between BADger fans and Packer fans in this state.

Gutekunst cooled on him

He's not smart enough for the Packers system

He's too old

Blah Blah Blah
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

Pakuni

#1258
October 06, 2021, 04:48:24 PM
Sounds like it's Green Bay for Jaylon Smith.

Dish

#1259
October 06, 2021, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2021, 04:48:24 PM
Sounds like it's Green Bay for Jaylon Smith.

I wonder if the familiarity with LaFleur will help, as Smith has not been great this year. He's not terrible by any means, just really slow, especially this season.

GB Warrior

#1260
October 06, 2021, 05:45:51 PM
No thanks on Smith, but guess we'll see what the figures are. Gilmore made an awful lot of sense

Jockey

#1261
October 06, 2021, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2021, 04:48:24 PM
Sounds like it's Green Bay for Jaylon Smith.

This move is all about Za'Darius' back problems. My guess is that he is out for an extended period.

MU82

#1262
October 07, 2021, 08:43:36 AM
Scott Fitterer, the Panthers' first-year GM, lives in the same suburban Charlotte neighborhood as the newest Panther, Stephon Gilmore. In fact, they live 3 houses away from each other.

When asked at yesterday's press conference if he also had any neighbors who were left tackles, Fitterer said: "During Halloween, I'll go knock on doors."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ZiggysFryBoy

#1263
October 07, 2021, 08:44:43 AM
Quote from: MU82 on October 07, 2021, 08:43:36 AM
Scott Fitterer, the Panthers' first-year GM, lives in the same suburban Charlotte neighborhood as the newest Panther, Stephon Gilmore. In fact, they live 3 houses away from each other.

Who cares?

jficke13

#1264
October 07, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
Quote from: Jockey on October 06, 2021, 06:25:27 PM
This move is all about Za'Darius' back problems. My guess is that he is out for an extended period.

He had surgery. There's been a lot of chatter that he's done for the year and likely to be released as a cap casualty.

MuggsyB

#1265
October 08, 2021, 10:20:27 PM
Will Gruden be canned?

Herman Cain

#1266
October 08, 2021, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 08, 2021, 10:20:27 PM
Will Gruden be canned?
Yes, if he has a losing season . 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Hards Alumni

#1267
October 10, 2021, 09:36:25 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 08, 2021, 10:33:26 PM
Yes, if he has a losing season .

Eh, even if he has a losing season he will be around for a little while longer.

MuggsyB

#1268
October 10, 2021, 09:51:54 AM
I dunno about that.  People have been fired for similar things and even though it was a decade ago his explanation didn't do him any favors. 

The Sultan

#1269
October 10, 2021, 10:03:57 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 10, 2021, 09:51:54 AM
I dunno about that.  People have been fired for similar things and even though it was a decade ago his explanation didn't do him any favors. 

You are right but unless it is causing issues in the locker room, it seems things are dying down. And the owner loves the guy.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Herman Cain

#1270
October 10, 2021, 10:31:06 AM
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

The Sultan

#1271
October 10, 2021, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 10, 2021, 10:31:06 AM
Some good memories of Favre in the early days versus Bengals

https://twitter.com/packers/status/1447205675684270082?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I was at County Stadium that day since the Brewers were in contention in the AL East. Part of the crowd weirdly erupted in the middle of the game, and when I figured out that it was those with radio headsets doing the cheering, I figured out what it meant.

In between innings they showed the replay on that old black and white video board.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

#1272
October 10, 2021, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 10, 2021, 10:03:57 AM
You are right but unless it is causing issues in the locker room, it seems things are dying down. And the owner loves the guy.

Fair enough.

Jockey

#1273
October 10, 2021, 01:05:45 PM
3 bad special teams plays already.

4everwarriors

#1274
October 10, 2021, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: Jockey on October 10, 2021, 01:05:45 PM
3 bad special teams plays already.



Ur such a negative Nancy, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"
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