2021-2022 NFL Season

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Arlington Heights isn't on the "edge of the metropolitan area."  Yeah I get it is inconvenient for people from the south suburbs, but its pretty much in the heart of the NW suburbs.

A stadium downtown would be infinitely more expensive.  Furthermore, the owners of these teams not only want a stadium to generate revenue, but they want the real estate around the stadium to develop.  That is why Arlington Heights make sense, and instantly makes the team much more valuable.

[Pakuni]

The fact is that Soldier Field won't work and is poorly located. A new stadium ideally would be downtown near major transportation lines, including the Ogilvie and Union Stations, as well as the CTA. For those of you who think Arlington Heights is well located, Pace is a rolling crapfest, the Northwest Line is it for mass transit (unless the El is extended) and there's only one way in and out of the future Raceway Stadium -- Illinois 53. They'd be better off tearing down the Rosemont Horizon and building there if the intent is to build in the Northwest Suburbs.

If you know of 326 acres available downtown, I'm sure the Bears are willing to listen. Maybe Lightfoot gives them Grant Park?

You're vastly exaggerating the transportation downsides of Arlington Park. There are two Route 53 exits on either side of the property, you're 10-15 minutes from multiple I-90 interchanges, and 30 minutes from I-294.
As has been said already, unless you're coming from downtown, Tinley Park or Hammond, you'll have an easier trip.

And if you think Arlington Heights is on "the edge" of the Metro area, I'd like to introduce you to Huntley, Batavia and Plainfield.

[Uncle Rico]

Move the Bears to Gary

[jesmu84]

Move the Bears to Gary

Bears to Gary, 2nd Chicago team to Arlington heights?

[Dr. Blackheart]

The Elgin-O'Hare short will connect 294 to 355/53 for those South Siders and NWI fans you are so worried about. Plus, it will significantly improve the transport from O'Hare.

Added Pace Xpress buses from the CTA stations, Rosemont Hotel & Entertainment (and betting at Rivers), Woodfield and AH will be as good at the worst as the CTA bus morass, if not significantly better.

We also don't care about the Lake Countians anyway. They are mostly Packers fans. Let them eat cake.

As to Soldier Field, that property is much more valuable redeveloped.

[GB Warrior]

Just when you think Nagy can't possibly get any dumber...he totally outdoes himself:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1442542444680146949?s=19

Dunno how the Lions are going to prepare for 3 very different QBs to run the exact same offense

[Jockey]

If you have 3 QBs, you have no QBs.

Fields was rated much, much higher than Jordan Love, yet some people here want to show ARod the door so we can be as special as the Bears were on Sunday.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The Elgin-O'Hare short will connect 294 to 355/53 for those South Siders and NWI fans you are so worried about. Plus, it will significantly improve the transport from O'Hare.

Added Pace Xpress buses from the CTA stations, Rosemont Hotel & Entertainment (and betting at Rivers), Woodfield and AH will be as good at the worst as the CTA bus morass, if not significantly better.

We also don't care about the Lake Countians anyway. They are mostly Packers fans. Let them eat cake.

As to Soldier Field, that property is much more valuable redeveloped.

Soldier Field (the base, not the spaceship) is a historic landmark, not sure what the Park District would be able to.do with the property as far as redevelopment.   Maybe cut down some of the spaceship and repurpose it for the Fire and concerts.

Or Depaul's football team could play there. (Teal)

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Soldier Field (the base, not the spaceship) is a historic landmark, not sure what the Park District would be able to.do with the property as far as redevelopment.   Maybe cut down some of the spaceship and repurpose it for the Fire and concerts.

Or Depaul's football team could play there. (Teal)

It’s no longer a historic landmark. And that wouldn’t be a problem if they wanted to tear it down anyway.

https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalhistoriclandmarks/grant-park-stadium-soldier-field.htm

[Dr. Blackheart]

Soldier Field (the base, not the spaceship) is a historic landmark, not sure what the Park District would be able to.do with the property as far as redevelopment.   Maybe cut down some of the spaceship and repurpose it for the Fire and concerts.

Or Depaul's football team could play there. (Teal)

The rats will be fine.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

It’s no longer a historic landmark. And that wouldn’t be a problem if they wanted to tear it down anyway.

https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalhistoriclandmarks/grant-park-stadium-soldier-field.htm

Didn't know that. Thanks. 

[Herman Cain]

Cowboys giving the Eagles a Heinie Whoopin

[dgies9156]

If you know of 326 acres available downtown, I'm sure the Bears are willing to listen. Maybe Lightfoot gives them Grant Park?

You're vastly exaggerating the transportation downsides of Arlington Park. There are two Route 53 exits on either side of the property, you're 10-15 minutes from multiple I-90 interchanges, and 30 minutes from I-294.
As has been said already, unless you're coming from downtown, Tinley Park or Hammond, you'll have an easier trip.

And if you think Arlington Heights is on "the edge" of the Metro area, I'd like to introduce you to Huntley, Batavia and Plainfield.

Brother Pakuni:

Ultimately, I agree with you. Neither you nor I are going to decide where the Bears go. The present value of various locations will be considered ad nausium until they decide to build in Arlington Heights. The political climate in Chicago is not one that's open to trying to work to keep the Bears in town. The Mayor knew that the minute the Bears put their option in on Arlington Heights.

If the McCaskeys thought they could make more money putting the stadium in Kenosha, Wisconsin would have a second professional football team.

By the time Raceway Stadium goes up, I'll have long ago sold my house in Lake County, IL and relinquished my season tickets. It's no sweat off my back if they move to Arlington Heights, or the aforementioned Huntley, Batavia or Plainfield. Unless they move to Indian River County, FL, they won't matter to me.

One interesting problem confronting the Bears will be what to do with Soldier Field PSLs. These PSLs are supposed to be rights to buy a seat in perpetuity and are transferrable. Will they transfer to Raceway Stadium? If they do, it diminishes the source of funding the Bears have. If they don't, they'll be lawsuits coming out the wazoo. I was solicited for a PSL when the Park District built the current Soldier Field and walked away. I don't remember the legal contract and I'm sure some squirmy, greasy lawyer will find an out clause, but the collateral damage on existing season ticket holders will be huge.

P.S. -- I can hardly wait to see 40,000 to 50,000 cars descent on Illinois 53 at 3:30 p.m., on a warm October day in 2031. That's going to be a nightmare. Not to mention Lake Cook Road, Lake Street/Euclid Avenue and Willow/Palatine Road.

[MU82]

I sure hope McCarthy gets stoopid again before Sunday, when his Cowboys play my Panthers.

[Dr. Blackheart]

P.S. -- I can hardly wait to see 40,000 to 50,000 cars descent on Illinois 53 at 3:30 p.m., on a warm October day in 2031. That's going to be a nightmare. Not to mention Lake Cook Road, Lake Street/Euclid Avenue and Willow/Palatine Road.

40,000-50,000 cars? 

[DegenerateDish]

PSL answer is simple. Once the Bears stop playing in Soldier Field, a current PSL is literally worthless. Legally speaking, the PSL allows a license to buy Bears seats at Soldier Field.

Would the Bears give a right of first refusal to current PSL holders for DraftKings Field at State Farm Stadium? Probably, yes. Will current PSL holders get some type of buyback from the Bears? Not a chance in hell.

The PSL contract is clear as day that it does not transfer to a new stadium.

[dgies9156]

PSL answer is simple. Once the Bears stop playing in Soldier Field, a current PSL is literally worthless. Legally speaking, the PSL allows a license to buy Bears seats at Soldier Field.

Would the Bears give a right of first refusal to current PSL holders for DraftKings Field at State Farm Stadium? Probably, yes. Will current PSL holders get some type of buyback from the Bears? Not a chance in hell.

The PSL contract is clear as day that it does not transfer to a new stadium.

Yikes. I suppose you're right but the ill will the Bears will generate will be huge.

Not that they care...

How about Good Hands Field at Caterpillar Park (for two companies headquartered nearby). Actually, I kinda like Good Hands Field as it gives the Bears something to strive for,

[DegenerateDish]

Also meant to add, there’s no way leaving a game in Arlington Heights will be worse than leaving a game at Foxboro.

The. Worst.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Yikes. I suppose you're right but the ill will the Bears will generate will be huge.

Not that they care...

How about Good Hands Field at Caterpillar Park (for two companies headquartered nearby). Actually, I kinda like Good Hands Field as it gives the Bears something to strive for,

The Bears have lined up big money behind this: Bluhm, Ryan, McKenna to start. This is a real estate deal through and through. You don't seem to grasp that. Throw in Pritzker, Hyatt and Biden's infrastructure deal and Lori won't know what hit her. There will be Chicago giveaways to appease her but this deal is well on its way to green. In the end, the Chicago Lakefront casino will be worth more than that concrete hunk. Hopefully they don't run off any further investors like Hobson/Lucas for that property.

[dgies9156]

The Bears have lined up big money behind this: Bluhm, Ryan, McKenna to start. This is a real estate deal through and through. You don't seem to grasp that. Throw in Pritzker, Hyatt and Biden's infrastructure deal and Lori won't know what hit her. There will be Chicago giveaways to appease her but this deal is well on its way to green. In the end, the Chicago Lakefront casino will be worth more than that concrete hunk. Hopefully they don't run off any further investors like Hobson/Lucas for that property.

I do grasp that. Take a look again at what I said earlier. The Bears will go where the NPV is highest. The ddeal is as good as done.

You're right -- what's out there now are ancillary issues.

Little Lori already is in a rowboat in a hurricane. She's so far out of it that she'll figure it out a year after the first game is played at Good Hands Stadium.

[MU82]

PSL answer is simple. Once the Bears stop playing in Soldier Field, a current PSL is literally worthless. Legally speaking, the PSL allows a license to buy Bears seats at Soldier Field.

Would the Bears give a right of first refusal to current PSL holders for DraftKings Field at State Farm Stadium? Probably, yes. Will current PSL holders get some type of buyback from the Bears? Not a chance in hell.

The PSL contract is clear as day that it does not transfer to a new stadium.

The NFL's richest owner, David Tepper, owns the Panthers. He already is hinting about how much of a taxpayer handout he'll "need" for the new stadium he wants built at some point this decade. Additionally, the realization has set in among current PSL owners that they'll have to pony up the big bucks to buy PSLs again -- because, as you said, the existing PSLs cover only seats at the current stadium.

[Pakuni]

Week 3 and we already have our quote of the year.

Jalen Hurts takes blame in loss to Cowboys: "You take you a deuce, you don't sit there and look at it. You flush it and move on. We're going to flush it and move on."

[dgies9156]

40,000-50,000 cars?

If it is a 75,000 to 85,000 seat stadium, yes.

[Pakuni]

If it is a 75,000 to 85,000 seat stadium, yes.

Thousands of people will drive to the game alone?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Thousands of people will drive to the game alone?

Apparently half of Bears fans are loners with no family or friends. The other half have no friends but are dragging their spouses to a game. And no one has children or each child is driving separately. Busses, bikers and,  walkers are also not allowed