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brewcity77

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 07:52:39 AM
Would you call any Big East basketball program that identified itself as White or Black diverse?

https://www.casualhoya.com/2014/10/21/7025783/georgetown-basketball-and-race

Do we need to start a Go Fund Me to buy you a safe space?

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 07:52:39 AM
Would you call any Big East basketball program that identified itself as White or Black diverse?

https://www.casualhoya.com/2014/10/21/7025783/georgetown-basketball-and-race


How did they identify themselves as "black?"  (Casual Hoya is a fan site like Cracked Sidewalks)

And anyway, per usual, you are only using race as a definition of "diverse"  My definition wasn't limited to race.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

muwarrior69

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 27, 2021, 07:55:06 AM
Do we need to start a Go Fund Me to buy you a safe space?

Please don't go a round stating the league values diversity when obviously some do not; in fact they state the opposite.

...and by all means if you want to start a GO Fund Me on my behalf I'll gladly take your money.

Pakuni


The Sultan

#29
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 08:04:12 AM
Please don't go a round stating the league values diversity when obviously some do not; in fact they state the opposite.

...and by all means if you want to start a GO Fund Me on my behalf I'll gladly take your money.

*They* aren't stating anything. Pay attention.

And you are the only one here defining diversity by race. Again. Like always.

And you did so after you asked me to define diversity and I provided a definition that wasn't just race.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


muwarrior69

Quote from: Non-Salesperson Time-Waster on March 27, 2021, 07:56:35 AM

How did they identify themselves as "black?"  (Casual Hoya is a fan site like Cracked Sidewalks)

And anyway, per usual, you are only using race as a definition of "diverse"  My definition wasn't limited to race.

...but the definition implies an emphasis especially on race.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 08:22:23 AM
...but the definition implies an emphasis especially on race.

That's your bias. So that's a you problem.

The definition you asked me to provide was not just about race.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

muwarrior69

Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2021, 08:10:26 AM
Someone's fragility is showing again.

If I was fragile I wouldn't be debating you guys. Please explain to me how an all White team is diverse if race is not the only consideration?

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 08:28:45 AM
If I was fragile I wouldn't be debating you guys. Please explain to me how an all White team is diverse if race is not the only consideration?

If you are merely hoping to be educated, why are you so emotional about it?

Galway Eagle

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Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 08:28:45 AM
If I was fragile I wouldn't be debating you guys. Please explain to me how an all White team is diverse if race is not the only consideration?

Political thought, disability status, age, sexuality, urban/suburban/rural hometown, ethnicity, Do you need any more examples?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

muwarrior69

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 27, 2021, 08:32:49 AM
Political thought, disability status, age, sexuality, urban/suburban/rural hometown. Do you need any more examples?

So an all White Big East basketball program with individuals that possessed some or all those attributes would be one to claim they value diversity.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 08:40:40 AM
So an all White Big East basketball program with individuals that possessed some or all those attributes would be one to claim they value diversity.

Yes just not racial diversity. Have you never applied for a job? They ask you all sorts of "are you a veteran? Are you disabled? What is your sexual orientation? What gender do you identify as?" Because these also qualify as diversity hires. Most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity, that doesn't make the word specific to race.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 08:40:40 AM
So an all White Big East basketball program with individuals that possessed some or all those attributes would be one to claim they value diversity.
Don't know and don't care but they would suck at basketball.

muwarrior69

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 27, 2021, 08:44:44 AM
Don't know and don't care but they would suck at basketball.

...but they value diversity.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 26, 2021, 05:03:24 PM
.. a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.

We already have that.

muwarrior69

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 27, 2021, 08:44:08 AM
Yes just not racial diversity. Have you never applied for a job? They ask you all sorts of "are you a veteran? Are you disabled? What is your sexual orientation? What gender do you identify as?" Because these also qualify as diversity hires. Most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity, that doesn't make the word specific to race.

Thank you, so you don't have to be racially diverse to be diverse, but diverse is code for race.


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Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 27, 2021, 07:26:39 AM
Define diversity.

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

naginiF

Quote from: Retire0 on March 27, 2021, 09:14:47 AM
Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.
ageism is a real thing

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2021, 09:08:07 AM
That is a Bog-ues argument.

Excuse me Tower but have you ever had to jump 30 inches to take a piss at a public urinal?  Little people have rights and are often discriminated against.  Those that are under 4 feet in particular have many hardships as do those that are over 7'5.   And we have a sizable dwarf or little people population in the world.  Not to mention that 80% of this super small population has normal genetic parents.  You have no reason to disparage the diminutive people and should donate to the Little People of America.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 26, 2021, 05:03:24 PM
...and hope Gates is not hired by DePaul. He just might outshine Shaka with all the praises he was getting here on scoop. Then again a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.

We've been competitive with DePaul. Just not in the ways we like.

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