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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Not A Serious Person on March 26, 2021, 11:49:33 AM
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Cooley, Providence
Ewing, Georgetown
Jordan, Butler
Shaka, MU
Anderson, St. Johns
If DePaul hires a minority coach, the Big East will be the first major conference that is "majority-minority" at the head coach level.
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We can only hope.
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We can only hope.
...and hope Gates is not hired by DePaul. He just might outshine Shaka with all the praises he was getting here on scoop. Then again a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.
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Cooley, Providence
Ewing, Georgetown
Jordan, Butler
Shaka, MU
Anderson, St. Johns
If DePaul hires a minority coach, the Big East will be the first major conference that is "majority-minority" at the head coach level.
If any conference is the be the first in this department, it SHOULD be the Big East, based on the urban settings of its member schools and the tradition of several them in recruiting black players while state schools would not.
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If any conference is the be the first in this department, it SHOULD be the Big East, based on the urban settings of its member schools and the tradition of several them in recruiting black players while state schools would not.
Some did not.
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...and hope Gates is not hired by DePaul. He just might outshine Shaka with all the praises he was getting here on scoop. Then again a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.
I have also seen several reports that DePaul is looking at Kenny Payne from the Knicks.
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I have also seen several reports that DePaul is looking at Kenny Payne from the Knicks.
I just looked him up. This is from the first paragraph of his wiki:
"He was selected by the Philadelphia 76ers with the 19th pick of the 1989 NBA draft where he was booed by a gathering of fans."
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Those Philly fans are brutal.
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Based on Lovell's statement, it seems that hiring a Black coach was a high priority. So, if Smart didn't work out, my guess is that Gates was next in line. All in all, it couldn't have worked out any better.
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Who the heck cares?
If an African American coach gets us back to the promised land -- we'll all follow!
Happily!!!!!
Ditto for any other coach who can do it the Marquette way.
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Smart positively checked 47 coaching checklist boxes before getting to diversity.
This is the way it should be.
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DePaul will likely go with Payne.
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By all means race is the most important characteristic of each of these men.
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Eventually you have to put your money where your mouth is, and we are seeing that in the BEAST. Want to go to a urbam school, play for a school/conference that truly values diversity, compete at an elite level, and not be viewed as an after-thought to football...come play in the BEAST.
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Eventually you have to put your money where your mouth is, and we are seeing that in the BEAST. Want to go to a urbam school, play for a school/conference that truly values diversity, compete at an elite level, and not be viewed as an after-thought to football...come play in the BEAST.
What exactly does that mean?
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What exactly does that mean?
That it values diversity. Pretty obvious.
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That it values diversity. Pretty obvious.
Define diversity.
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A little early, but I’m breaking out the popcorn for the rest of this discussion.
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Define diversity.
Do you know how to use an online dictionary?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversity
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A little early, but I’m breaking out the popcorn for the rest of this discussion.
Let have a little diversity in the snack department, I'll bring some crackerjacks.
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Do you know how to use an online dictionary?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversity
Then all Big East schools are not diverse.
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Then all Big East schools are not diverse.
Huh? Like who?
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Huh? Like who?
Georgetown.
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Georgetown.
How are they not diverse?
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How are they not diverse?
Would you call any Big East basketball program that identified itself as White or Black diverse? How many white players can you name without looking them up that played for Gtown over the last 30 years that played in the NBA?
https://www.casualhoya.com/2014/10/21/7025783/georgetown-basketball-and-race
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Would you call any Big East basketball program that identified itself as White or Black diverse?
https://www.casualhoya.com/2014/10/21/7025783/georgetown-basketball-and-race
Do we need to start a Go Fund Me to buy you a safe space?
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Would you call any Big East basketball program that identified itself as White or Black diverse?
https://www.casualhoya.com/2014/10/21/7025783/georgetown-basketball-and-race
How did they identify themselves as "black?" (Casual Hoya is a fan site like Cracked Sidewalks)
And anyway, per usual, you are only using race as a definition of "diverse" My definition wasn't limited to race.
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Do we need to start a Go Fund Me to buy you a safe space?
Please don't go a round stating the league values diversity when obviously some do not; in fact they state the opposite.
...and by all means if you want to start a GO Fund Me on my behalf I'll gladly take your money.
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Someone's fragility is showing again.
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Please don't go a round stating the league values diversity when obviously some do not; in fact they state the opposite.
...and by all means if you want to start a GO Fund Me on my behalf I'll gladly take your money.
*They* aren’t stating anything. Pay attention.
And you are the only one here defining diversity by race. Again. Like always.
And you did so after you asked me to define diversity and I provided a definition that wasn’t just race.
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How did they identify themselves as "black?" (Casual Hoya is a fan site like Cracked Sidewalks)
And anyway, per usual, you are only using race as a definition of "diverse" My definition wasn't limited to race.
...but the definition implies an emphasis especially on race.
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...but the definition implies an emphasis especially on race.
That’s your bias. So that’s a you problem.
The definition you asked me to provide was not just about race.
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Someone's fragility is showing again.
If I was fragile I wouldn't be debating you guys. Please explain to me how an all White team is diverse if race is not the only consideration?
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If I was fragile I wouldn't be debating you guys. Please explain to me how an all White team is diverse if race is not the only consideration?
If you are merely hoping to be educated, why are you so emotional about it?
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If I was fragile I wouldn't be debating you guys. Please explain to me how an all White team is diverse if race is not the only consideration?
Political thought, disability status, age, sexuality, urban/suburban/rural hometown, ethnicity, Do you need any more examples?
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Political thought, disability status, age, sexuality, urban/suburban/rural hometown. Do you need any more examples?
So an all White Big East basketball program with individuals that possessed some or all those attributes would be one to claim they value diversity.
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So an all White Big East basketball program with individuals that possessed some or all those attributes would be one to claim they value diversity.
Yes just not racial diversity. Have you never applied for a job? They ask you all sorts of "are you a veteran? Are you disabled? What is your sexual orientation? What gender do you identify as?" Because these also qualify as diversity hires. Most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity, that doesn't make the word specific to race.
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So an all White Big East basketball program with individuals that possessed some or all those attributes would be one to claim they value diversity.
Don’t know and don’t care but they would suck at basketball.
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Don’t know and don’t care but they would suck at basketball.
...but they value diversity.
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.. a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.
We already have that.
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Yes just not racial diversity. Have you never applied for a job? They ask you all sorts of "are you a veteran? Are you disabled? What is your sexual orientation? What gender do you identify as?" Because these also qualify as diversity hires. Most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity, that doesn't make the word specific to race.
Thank you, so you don't have to be racially diverse to be diverse, but diverse is code for race.
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We already have that.
LOL
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How tall is Shaka and what are the heights of the coaches in the BEast? Remember, we will never truly be free until our diminutive citizens are afforded the same comforts and opportunities. :)
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That is a Bog-ues argument.
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We already have that.
😂😆😂 best post of the day
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Define diversity.
Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.
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Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.
ageism is a real thing
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That is a Bog-ues argument.
Excuse me Tower but have you ever had to jump 30 inches to take a piss at a public urinal? Little people have rights and are often discriminated against. Those that are under 4 feet in particular have many hardships as do those that are over 7'5. And we have a sizable dwarf or little people population in the world. Not to mention that 80% of this super small population has normal genetic parents. You have no reason to disparage the diminutive people and should donate to the Little People of America.
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...and hope Gates is not hired by DePaul. He just might outshine Shaka with all the praises he was getting here on scoop. Then again a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.
We've been competitive with DePaul. Just not in the ways we like.
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Someone's fragility is showing again.
Well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle diverse I don't know what is.
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And here I thought 2021 we were going back to being post-racial.
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Don’t know and don’t care but they would suck at basketball.
I don't know. BYU is often pretty good, and Utah State gave us a pretty good run in the tournament a few years back.
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I don't know. BYU is often pretty good, and Utah State gave us a pretty good run in the tournament a few years back.
C’mon.
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Excuse me Tower but have you ever had to jump 30 inches to take a piss at a public urinal? Little people have rights and are often discriminated against. Those that are under 4 feet in particular have many hardships as do those that are over 7'5. And we have a sizable dwarf or little people population in the world. Not to mention that 80% of this super small population has normal genetic parents. You have no reason to disparage the diminutive people and should donate to the Little People of America.
Word play, Muggsy.
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Anyone else remember the "Politics" page on the old Rivals board? Holy good God in heaven was that a pile of dynamite.
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I’ll just say that until there is a transgendered coach of MU Basketball, the University stands for hate, white supremacy, and oppression of minorities.
The Shaka hire is simply wealthy white men attempting to buy their way to a better public persona while they continue to privately further systemic racism.
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Thank you, so you don't have to be racially diverse to be diverse, but diverse is code for race.
It's a code for race....for you. Again, that's *YOUR* problem.
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It's a code for race....for you. Again, that's *YOUR* problem.
I responded to Galway's post:
Most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity.
So I guess it most peoples problem.
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I’ll just say that until there is a transgendered coach of MU Basketball, the University stands for hate, white supremacy, and oppression of minorities.
The Shaka hire is simply wealthy white men attempting to buy their way to a better public persona while they continue to privately further systemic racism.
MU has some wealthy black alumni as well. Perhaps they dished out some coin as well and all the power and kudos to them to make this change in our Basketball program possible.
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...and hope Gates is not hired by DePaul. He just might outshine Shaka with all the praises he was getting here on scoop. Then again a competitive Depaul/MU rivalry would be fantastic for the league.
Except it's the Big East, not the Big Midwest.
The east coast, Boston to Washington couldn't care less about Chicago and Milwaukee, not to mention Omaha, Indianapolis, St. Louis or Dayton.
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Yes just not racial diversity. Have you never applied for a job? They ask you all sorts of "are you a veteran? Are you disabled? What is your sexual orientation? What gender do you identify as?" Because these also qualify as diversity hires. Most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity, that doesn't make the word specific to race.
I’m reluctant to jump into this conversation, but all of those questions but one are really, really ill-advised and/or illegal at the application stage. If someone has asked you those when you applied, you might be sitting on a lottery ticket.
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And here I thought 2021 we were going back to being post-racial.
I agree. So why did Scholl bring up diversity as a consideration in the hiring process. As Galway stated most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity. Scholl should have said nothing.
For the record I believe Shaka was a great hire.
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I agree. So why did Scholl bring up diversity as a consideration in the hiring process. As Galway stated most people use the word diversity as shorthand for racial diversity. Scholl should have said nothing.
For the record I believe Shaka was a great hire.
He brought it up because he was asked about by a minority reporter.
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The answer to diversity is lacrosse, soccer and golf.
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Georgetown.
Fragile white man strikes again.
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Fragile white man strikes again.
Can you honestly say Georgetown's Basketball program values diversity? If any other Big East Program recruited as many blacks as Georgetown has recruited white players over the last 30 years no one would consider that program diverse. I am the sole (so far) strong man here with a contrarian point of view pointing out the obvious.
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He brought it up because he was asked about by a minority reporter.
So racial diversity was a consideration?
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So racial diversity was a consideration?
Does that frighten you?
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MU has some wealthy black alumni as well. Perhaps they dished out some coin as well and all the power and kudos to them to make this change in our Basketball program possible.
Your white fragility is showing. Do better.
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Can you honestly say Georgetown's Basketball program values diversity? If any other Big East Program recruited as many blacks as Georgetown has recruited white players over the last 30 years no one would consider that program diverse. I am the sole (so far) strong man here with a contrarian point of view pointing out the obvious.
Well I know *something* is pretty obvious...
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So racial diversity was a consideration?
You can ask her. Maybe she was referring to gender, religion and age?
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So racial diversity was a consideration?
Yes, as it should be. It's not the only consideration. It's not even close to the most important consideration. But it is one consideration of many.
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And here I thought 2021 we were going back to being post-racial.
Being post racial means we no longer need to talk about race.
It doesn't mean no longer wanting to talk about race.
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Then all Big East schools are not diverse.
Thank you for standing up for white people no matter the subject. You forgot to include any information about any black ex-Big East player who has committed a crime. Don't deviate from your MO.
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Let me sum up this thread:
Old white dudes don't understand what diversity means. Other poster's attempt to explain.
Skulls on the old white dudes are too thick to figure it out.
Let me help.
You want a merit based society. So do the woke folk. But do you see how that is impossible when White people start on third base? Your life experiences as a white person come with privilege based on nothing more than the color of your skin. You don't have to worry about society looking down on your because you are white. You are in the majority, so you get to set the culture and its rules. Of course, there are white people who are poor who also have it bad. But all other things being equal, a POC will always have a steeper hill to climb to be successful than a white person.
There are hundreds of studies that back this information up. If you choose to ignore it, you are a fragile person. You can't come to terms with the privilege you have every day of your life for simply having less melanin in your skin. So just accept it. No one is asking you to apologize for your whiteness and the special societal privileges it grants. Just acknowledge that the society we have created directly favors White people. If you need some examples or help understanding this, or just want to have an open discussion about this, my private messages are open any time.
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Let me sum up this thread:
Old white dudes don't understand what diversity means. Other poster's attempt to explain.
Skulls on the old white dudes are too thick to figure it out.
Let me help.
You want a merit based society. So do the woke folk. But do you see how that is impossible when White people start on third base? Your life experiences as a white person come with privilege based on nothing more than the color of your skin. You don't have to worry about society looking down on your because you are white. You are in the majority, so you get to set the culture and its rules. Of course, there are white people who are poor who also have it bad. But all other things being equal, a POC will always have a steeper hill to climb to be successful than a white person.
There are hundreds of studies that back this information up. If you choose to ignore it, you are a fragile person. You can't come to terms with the privilege you have every day of your life for simply having less melanin in your skin. So just accept it. No one is asking you to apologize for your whiteness and the special societal privileges it grants. Just acknowledge that the society we have created directly favors White people. If you need some examples or help understanding this, or just want to have an open discussion about this, my private messages are open any time.
Actually this is the most ignorant comment I’ve seen. White-splaining at its finest. As a white male it is impossible for you to have an objective view of another race of people’s experience.
Stop. Appropriating. The. Black. Experience.
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Actually this is the most ignorant comment I’ve seen. White-splaining at its finest. As a white male it is impossible for you to have an objective view of another race of people’s experience.
Stop. Appropriating. The. Black. Experience.
Where did I say Black once? And in which way was I appropriating anything? If you can do a better job of explaining white privilege please, be my guest.
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Yes, as it should be. It's not the only consideration. It's not even close to the most important consideration. But it is one consideration of many.
So if it's not the only consideration. It's not even close to the most important consideration. But it is one consideration of many. Is it not still a consideration to decide, to set apart, who gets hired or not. I thought hiring someone based on race being a deciding factor regardless of how small or large among many factors is still discriminating on the basis of race.
Under the laws enforced by EEOC, it is illegal to discriminate against someone (applicant or employee) because of that person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
None of the above should be taken into consideration when hiring someone.
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Under the laws enforced by EEOC, it is illegal to discriminate against someone (applicant or employee) because of that person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
Notice your language here. You can't discriminate against someone. You can take race into consideration. It's not like Porter Moser or Craig Smith didn't get the job because they were white. Nobody discriminated against Shaka because he's Black...he got the job!
Now if there was some sort of transcript of Scholl and Lovell talking about "let's not hire any crackers" then this would be a different story. But that's not how this goes.
Same with Georgetown, which you keep bringing up. It's not like the Thompsons were going around ruling out white players just because they were white. They (two proud Black men) just created a culture where Black players wanted to play (in a very Black city).
And that's to say nothing for what Black coaches can bring that white coaches might not. I said this in another thread, but just by being Black they are likely better able to connect with Black student athletes and their families (and let's face it, most high level basketball recruits are Black) and with the largely Black community in Milwaukee. It's the same reason why urban schools should be trying to recruit and retain Black teachers.
Edit: Lemme add this link. httpss://www.eeoc.gov/racecolor-discrimination You'll notice it only says you cannot treat someone "unfavorably" based on race.
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Blue, black, green, white, or red, ...if you're speeding, you're speeding, if you're shoplifting, you're shoplifting. If you find the cure for aids, you found the cure. If you are a war hero, you are a war hero. Trash is trash and merit is merit. End of story, aina?
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Actually this is the most ignorant comment I’ve seen. White-splaining at its finest. As a white male it is impossible for you to have an objective view of another race of people’s experience.
Stop. Appropriating. The. Black. Experience.
That's a pretty harsh comment toward someone who is at least trying to understand. Would you rather all white people just give up trying and retreat to muwarrior69's point of view?
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Blue, black, green, white, or red, ...if you're speeding, you're speeding, if you're shoplifting, you're shoplifting. If you find the cure for aids, you found the cure. If you are a war hero, you are a war hero. Trash is trash and merit is merit. End of story, aina?
This SHOULD be the end of the story. This is what we all want. But it isn't reality.
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Where did I say Black once? And in which way was I appropriating anything? If you can do a better job of explaining white privilege please, be my guest.
Your white fragility is showing. Sit down.
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Your white fragility is showing. Sit down.
Got it, you're not a serious person.
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Got it, you're not a serious person.
excuse me?
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excuse me?
We're not talking, you can just reread what I typed.
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We're not talking, you can just reread what I typed.
Gladly. Yes if anyone who doesn’t see the world through your experience must not be a serious person. Check your privilege.
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Gladly. Yes if anyone who doesn’t see the world through your experience must not be a serious person. Check your privilege.
I asked you direct honest questions. You evaded them.
So I said you're not a serious person because you're clearly not.
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I asked you direct honest questions. You evaded them.
So I said you're not a serious person because you're clearly not.
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Rofl
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Scoop should just start a dedicated virtue signaling board where those that so choose can try their best to speak into existence how great they are while they huff their own farts and bask in their own spectacular awesomeness. Then the basketball board could focus on basketball. Everybody wins.
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Talk about fragility
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Scoop should just start a dedicated virtue signaling board where those that so choose can try their best to speak into existence how great they are while they huff their own farts and bask in their own spectacular awesomeness. Then the basketball board could focus on basketball. Everybody wins.
Sorry what? Probably should review the thread to see how we got here.
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Scoop should just start a dedicated virtue signaling board where those that so choose can try their best to speak into existence how great they are while they huff their own farts and bask in their own spectacular awesomeness. Then the basketball board could focus on basketball. Everybody wins.
I'd love to see how many sock accounts some people have. I think we could have a fascinating discussion about human behavior and the internet.
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Please keep this tread going. I’ve almost filled my virtue signaling bingo card.
My wife just loves it when white people point out her minority status when she’s interviewed, hired, or promoted.
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So if it's not the only consideration. It's not even close to the most important consideration. But it is one consideration of many. Is it not still a consideration to decide, to set apart, who gets hired or not. I thought hiring someone based on race being a deciding factor regardless of how small or large among many factors is still discriminating on the basis of race.
Under the laws enforced by EEOC, it is illegal to discriminate against someone (applicant or employee) because of that person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
None of the above should be taken into consideration when hiring someone.
69, I work in Title VII Compliance. I'm very well aware of the law. As SaveOD pointed out, you can't discriminate against people. The EEOC Compliance manual is very clear that identity-conscious employment efforts are not forbidden. There's a reason why the NFL has never gotten in trouble for the Rooney rule.
But by all means, file a claim with the EEOC. I work with them regularly, they will laugh you out of the room.
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Can you honestly say Georgetown's Basketball program values diversity? If any other Big East Program recruited as many blacks as Georgetown has recruited white players over the last 30 years no one would consider that program diverse. I am the sole (so far) strong man here with a contrarian point of view pointing out the obvious.
You used to loudly bemoan that there wasn't a White Miss America Pageant, didn't you?
"Strong man", LOL.
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Is Frontier the cousin to Hoopaloop and WarriorDad?
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Bravo to Smuggles for starting a thread that he knew would operate as a major triggering device.
Well done, sir.
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Is Frontier the cousin to Hoopaloop and WarriorDad?
How dare you try to appropriate his experience!
Now he's gonna block you.
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It's official, the Big East will the first high majority "Majority-Minority" conference in any revenue sport.
DePaul reaches deal with Tony Stubblefield, an Oregon assistant, to be its new men’s basketball coach
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-depaul-tony-stubblefield-20210401-agtecoreqzempg6embz2sl62ce-story.html
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69, I work in Title VII Compliance. I'm very well aware of the law. As SaveOD pointed out, you can't discriminate against people. The EEOC Compliance manual is very clear that identity-conscious employment efforts are not forbidden. There's a reason why the NFL has never gotten in trouble for the Rooney rule.
But by all means, file a claim with the EEOC. I work with them regularly, they will laugh you out of the room.
Nah. We tried to laugh him out of this room and it didn't work.
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I smell virtue signaling in this room
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Political thought, disability status, age, sexuality, urban/suburban/rural hometown, ethnicity, Do you need any more examples?
Hi coach. Thx for taking the interview. So, let’s get down to it. How old are you. What’s your political alignment, your sexuality...and where did you grow up? Think it thru, or this interview might be over. You see, we don’t want best qualified, we want...diversity!!
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Hi coach. Thx for taking the interview. So, let’s get down to it. How old are you. What’s your political alignment, your sexuality...and where did you grow up? Think it thru, or this interview might be over. You see, we don’t want best qualified, we want...diversity!!
Coming from a diverse background is a qualification.
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I smell virtue signaling in this room
Lotsa white victimhood, too.
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Found this article enlightening and that Big East could become the powerhouse league in college basketball as they are taking the lead in hiring minority HCs.
https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/03/its-very-disappointing-the-number-of-black-head-coaches-continues-to-fall-at-college-hoops-highest-level/
I found this excerpt from the article quite intriguing:
“There’s no excuse not to take your career in your hands,” said George Washington head coach Jamion Christian, a 37-year old who is already on his eighth season as a head coach at his third program.
One of the issues that Christian identified was the amount of time that recruiters are asked to be off campus and on the road.
“You’re not at practice three days-a-week, so you’re not learning how to run a practice or how to run a program,” he said. “You’re not learning the ins-and-outs. When you get a [head coaching] job, are you prepared to succeed?”
The answer, Christian says, is to learn on your own. Read about the game. Watch video. Learn a new offense while on a flight. His goal is to one day establish a training center for assistant coaches that get put into this situation, a place where all of this can be drilled into coaches.
Wow! Sounds like the guy we had for 7 years, except for the last paragraph.
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Christian is an impressive guy. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the BE one day.
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And here I thought 2021 we were going back to being post-racial.
its all the lefties know. If you disagree with someone’s opinion call them a racist and you automatically win the argument. And I do think a majority minority conference is a good thing.
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its all the lefties know. If you disagree with someone’s opinion call them a racist and you automatically win the argument. And I do think a majority minority conference is a good thing.
Yeah, that's it. Great insight as always.
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its all the lefties know. If you disagree with someone’s opinion call them a racist and you automatically win the argument. And I do think a majority minority conference is a good thing.
I swear the first time I read this there was a don’t that’s now been replaced with a do. The subconscious coming through the first time around?
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its all the lefties know. If you disagree with someone’s opinion call them a racist socialist and you automatically win the argument. And I do think a majority minority conference is a good thing.
FTFY
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Hi coach. Thx for taking the interview. So, let’s get down to it. How old are you. What’s your political alignment, your sexuality...and where did you grow up? Think it thru, or this interview might be over. You see, we don’t want best qualified, we want...diversity!!
This is a weird response.
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its all the lefties know. If you disagree with someone’s opinion call them a racist and you automatically win the argument. And I do think a majority minority conference is a good thing.
agree & agree
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This is a weird response.
Why reply? But, thx for playing.
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I smell virtue signaling in this room
I'm overcome with the smell of virtue signaling.
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Why reply? But, thx for playing.
This is a weirder response. I don't think the point you're attempting to make is as clear as you think...
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IBTL
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I'm not sure people know what virtue signaling means.
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I'm not sure people know what virtue signaling means.
mhmm. Also not terribly surprising.
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A little early, but I’m breaking out the popcorn for the rest of this discussion.
Here we go, I'll take mine with just a little salt, thank you.
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Blue, black, green, white, or red, ...if you're speeding, you're speeding, if you're shoplifting, you're shoplifting. If you find the cure for aids, you found the cure. If you are a war hero, you are a war hero. Trash is trash and merit is merit. End of story, aina?
Except not how real life works old, not much older than me, man.
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agree & agree
Yeah, pretty boys normally agree...
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I'm not sure people know what virtue signaling means.
Straight from Google:
What is virtue signaling example?
Virtue is associated with fighting for social justice. An example of virtue-signaling could be a long Facebook post or Twitter thread that self-righteously lectures people on the awfulness of some social phenomenon (e.g., racism or misogyny) or makes a show of praising a cause (e.g., affirmative action or veganism ).
Sorry, they left out posts on MUScoop
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Straight from Google:
What is virtue signaling example?
Virtue is associated with fighting for social justice. An example of virtue-signaling could be a long Facebook post or Twitter thread that self-righteously lectures people on the awfulness of some social phenomenon (e.g., racism or misogyny) or makes a show of praising a cause (e.g., affirmative action or veganism ).
Sorry, they left out posts on MUScoop
Sorry, you went for an example instead of a definition. Try again.
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Straight from Google:
What is virtue signaling example?
Virtue is associated with fighting for social justice. An example of virtue-signaling could be a long Facebook post or Twitter thread that self-righteously lectures people on the awfulness of some social phenomenon (e.g., racism or misogyny) or makes a show of praising a cause (e.g., affirmative action or veganism ).
Sorry, they left out posts on MUScoop
That's not the definition of virtue signaling. Those could be two examples of virtue signaling...but they are missing a key ingredient
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That's not the definition of virtue signaling. Those could be two examples of virtue signaling...but they are missing a key ingredient
Oxford Dictionary
Virtue signalling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings.
One shows disgust for racism or misogyny and the other favors affirmative action. So what is the missing ingredient?
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Oxford Dictionary
Virtue signalling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings.
One shows disgust for racism or misogyny and the other favors affirmative action. So what is the missing ingredient?
Your logic?
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Oxford Dictionary
Virtue signalling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings.
One shows disgust for racism or misogyny and the other favors affirmative action. So what is the missing ingredient?
Virtue signaling implies that the the care is not genuine, that it is being done for attention and approval of others.
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Blue, black, green, white, or red, ...if you're speeding, you're speeding, if you're shoplifting, you're shoplifting. If you find the cure for aids, you found the cure. If you are a war hero, you are a war hero. Trash is trash and merit is merit. End of story, aina?
I'm sure James Blake would agree: If you're a criminal, you're a criminal; if racist cops think you look like a criminal, you get the shyte kicked out of you. End of story, oona?
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Wow this thread should be burned.
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Wow this thread should be burned.
Why? You can see all the pretty boys...
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This is why we can't have nice things.