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rocky_warrior

Quote from: burger on March 22, 2021, 05:38:40 PM
Also.....you believe a guy with 6 posts.....

Looking at his history.  Been around a while, doesn't just throw crap out there.  At least as reliable as most people.  Maybe it's a guess, but entirely possible.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: burger on March 22, 2021, 05:38:40 PM
I told you guys it would take Wojo salary......

Also.....you believe a guy with 6 posts.....

Check the IP......Best it is North Shore Chicago with a close to Loyola zip.....

All I will say......Remember when Crean left for IU......

There are no absolutes either way.....Let's see how it plays out.....
.....o..........k.....
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

muwarrior69

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 22, 2021, 05:44:35 PM
Looking at his history.  Been around a while, doesn't just throw crap out there.  At least as reliable as most people.  Maybe it's a guess, but entirely possible.

So Goodman is full of hot air when he says MU is Moser's dream job.

Blackhat

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 22, 2021, 05:51:42 PM
So Goodman is full of hot air when he says MU is Moser's dream job.
I wouldn't put it past Goodman or Moser's agent.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 22, 2021, 05:51:42 PM
So Goodman is full of hot air when he says MU is Moser's dream job.

I believe the words were "covets the job".  Goodman just reports what he hears.

TheREALwrk

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 22, 2021, 05:44:35 PM
Looking at his history.  Been around a while, doesn't just throw crap out there.  At least as reliable as most people.  Maybe it's a guess, but entirely possible.

Low bar? Lmao

rocky_warrior

Quote from: TheREALwrk on March 22, 2021, 07:04:53 PM
Low bar? Lmao

Oh for sure!  Though many of our best scoops have come from low volume/little known/new posters.

Judge Smails

Yeah it almost seems like less posts = higher credibility.

MU82

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 22, 2021, 05:59:36 PM
I believe the words were "covets the job".  Goodman just reports what he hears.

Correct on both accounts.
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SonOfWarrior

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 22, 2021, 05:44:35 PM
Looking at his history.  Been around a while, doesn't just throw crap out there.  At least as reliable as most people.  Maybe it's a guess, but entirely possible.

I'm not Pepe Silvia but the move to Marquette would be out of character for Moser.  Remember, he was taught by Rick Majerus.

As for lack of posting, I forget about muscoops, come back, feel bad for the horse the forum has beat to death, and go away (or lurk). 

warriorchick

Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2021, 04:35:50 PM
Doors open when your dad is the school's highest profile and highest paid employee.
Anyhow, all the better if she doesn't need a scholie. But Duff would have to make a roster spot available.

She doesn't need a schollie.  Her dad has a seven-figure salary.  It would likely affect his overall comp less than 2 percent.

And I would be surprised if her dad made that part of the deal.  For the sake of the women's team's success, I would hope he would not want his daughter taking it instead of a more qualified player.
Have some patience, FFS.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: warriorchick on March 22, 2021, 07:47:18 PM
She doesn't need a schollie.  Her dad has a seven-figure salary.  It would likely affect his overall comp less than 2 percent.

And I would be surprised if her dad made that part of the deal.  For the sake of the women's team's success, I would hope he would not want his daughter taking it instead of a more qualified player.

Also don't children of MU employees attend for free?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

warriorchick

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 22, 2021, 07:53:26 PM
Also don't children of MU employees attend for free?

Yes.  Great point.
Have some patience, FFS.

ZiggysFryBoy

4ever will have to move back downtown.

blue and gold


brewcity77

Quote from: blue and gold on March 23, 2021, 10:49:17 AM
Thank you for your perspective.

Not sure if it's been said in here, but one quote I saw this week that I really liked was to the effect of "if a coach wouldn't on your list on March 1, they shouldn't be on your list on April 1." I think that's a good general rule to live by.

A lot of careers have been made by winning a mediocre conference tournament & a game or two after that. Probably safer to look at what coaches do from November to February to put themselves into position for the lucky bounces of March.

Pakuni

#391
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 23, 2021, 10:53:58 AM
Not sure if it's been said in here, but one quote I saw this week that I really liked was to the effect of "if a coach wouldn't on your list on March 1, they shouldn't be on your list on April 1." I think that's a good general rule to live by.

A lot of careers have been made by winning a mediocre conference tournament & a game or two after that. Probably safer to look at what coaches do from November to February to put themselves into position for the lucky bounces of March.

It's a fair point, but some pretty successful high-major coaches earned their opportunity at that level thanks mostly to some unexpected tourney success.
Does Brad Underwood land at Illinois, via Okie State, if not for some tourney success at Stephen F. Austin? Does Andy Enfield get the USC gig if not for Dunk City in 2013? Does Nate Oats land at Alabama without Buffalo winning some tournament games? Tournament success played a huge part in all three of these guys getting P6 opportunities.

And yes, it definitely go the other way. John Groce comes to mind.

blue and gold

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2021, 12:01:07 AM
Because winning in the tournament is a terrible measure for projecting successful high major coaches.

Because when he was in the Dakotas he didn't just recruit the Dakotas. He recruited Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois heavily. And at Utah he hasn't just recruited Utah, he's actually become an expert in international recruiting, pulling kids from Russia, Australia, and Canada. Also because in his three years at Utah St, he's recruited 5 out of the 10 highest rated recruits in school history per 247.

Quote from: blue and gold on March 22, 2021, 10:34:15 AM
The above statement in bold isn't a fact, right? But just your opinion?

It sounds like you're asserting that this is a fact.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2021, 11:11:06 AM
Its an opinion supported by facts.

Out of curiosity, what facts do you have to support your opinion except for a few anecdotal examples to fit your narrative that, "winning in the tournament is a terrible measure for projecting successful high major coaches?"

I'm not discrediting regular season success, but to say that NCAA tournament success is a terrible measure to judge head coaches seems to be dubious at best.




brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 11:05:51 AM
It's a fair point, but some pretty successful high-major coaches earned their opportunity at that level thanks mostly to some unexpected tourney success.
Does Brad Underwood land at Illinois, via Okie State, if not for some tourney success at Stephen F. Austin? Does Andy Enfield get the USC gig if not for Dunk City in 2013? Does Nate Oats land at Alabama with Buffalo winning some tournament games?

And yes, it definitely go the other way. John Groce comes to mind.

Brad Underwood was 99-14 (53-1 in conference) at SFA, he didn't need tourney success. Enfield, probably not, though his turnaround in 2 years at FGCU isn't that different from Gates, just with 2 more wins. Oats had Buffalo in the top-15 and notably better every year he was there. He would've got a job with or without wins in the tournament.

Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 23, 2021, 11:12:47 AM
Brad Underwood was 99-14 (53-1 in conference) at SFA, he didn't need tourney success. Enfield, probably not, though his turnaround in 2 years at FGCU isn't that different from Gates, just with 2 more wins. Oats had Buffalo in the top-15 and notably better every year he was there. He would've got a job with or without wins in the tournament.

OK, so which small school coach got a high-major gig based on tournament success while also sucking during the regular season?
None, right? Because those small schools don't get the opportunity for tournament success without first having great records in the regular season. So it's a moot point.

In the meantime, there are and have been plenty of small school coaches who've racked up great regular season records but no postseason success, and thus remain small school coaches. John Becker comes to mind. Dave Richman. Heck, even Tod Kowalczyk.

If you don't believe winning in March opens up opportunities for smaller school coaches, not sure what to tell you.

cheebs09

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 11:38:08 AM
OK, so which small school coach got a high-major gig based on tournament success while also sucking during the regular season?
None, right? Because those small schools don't get the opportunity for tournament success without first having great records in the regular season. So it's a moot point.

In the meantime, there are and have been plenty of small school coaches who've racked up great regular season records but no postseason success, and thus remain small school coaches. John Becker comes to mind. Dave Richman. Heck, even Tod Kowalczyk.

If you don't believe winning in March opens up opportunities for smaller school coaches, not sure what to tell you.

I think John Groce is the poster child of this. His time at Ohio wasn't great outside of a Sweet 16 run. His best conference finish was third in his division.

WellsstreetWanderer

I don't know if it has been mentioned but I have read articles where Moser should be the successor to coach K at Duke and touting his hire for DePaul. Seems like many writers are discovering this guy as the one for their program.  He seems to be the darling of this tournament

79Warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 23, 2021, 11:12:47 AM
Brad Underwood was 99-14 (53-1 in conference) at SFA, he didn't need tourney success. Enfield, probably not, though his turnaround in 2 years at FGCU isn't that different from Gates, just with 2 more wins. Oats had Buffalo in the top-15 and notably better every year he was there. He would've got a job with or without wins in the tournament.

Enfield having a good run with SC.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 11:38:08 AM
OK, so which small school coach got a high-major gig based on tournament success while also sucking during the regular season?
None, right? Because those small schools don't get the opportunity for tournament success without first having great records in the regular season. So it's a moot point.

In the meantime, there are and have been plenty of small school coaches who've racked up great regular season records but no postseason success, and thus remain small school coaches. John Becker comes to mind. Dave Richman. Heck, even Tod Kowalczyk.

If you don't believe winning in March opens up opportunities for smaller school coaches, not sure what to tell you.



Andy Enfield was the coach at FGCU for two seasons.  The year they made their S16 run, they were the number 2 seed in their own conference tournament and had to win it to qualify.  He doesn't get the USC gig without that S16 run.  Now that worked out for USC eventually, this year is only his second and third NCAA wins, but it took awhile.

How about Shaka?  Do you think he gets the Texas gig without the Final Four run?  He had no regular season titles and two NCAA wins at VCU otherwise.
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JakeBarnes

https://twitter.com/LoweDownStats/status/1374060885908553736

Interesting read from our blogger side. I think this summarizes some of my concerns somewhat with Moser.

Not a Proser or a Noser (or a Hoser). Just want to see us put a consistently good basketball product on the court. This is why the AD has their job and I have mine, I guess. I just miss relevance of the basketball program.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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