Porter Moser should be the guy

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Waiting another week+ for Moser is a dagger.  Obviously its what you do if he's your guy, but I fear that waiting 10+ days is going to result in major roster fallout.  Hopefully, if that is what they decide to do, they know he actually wants to job. 

[Galway Eagle]

Waiting another week+ for Moser is a dagger.  Obviously its what you do if he's your guy, but I fear that waiting 10+ days is going to result in major roster fallout.  Hopefully, if that is what they decide to do, they know he actually wants to job.

Yeah honestly I'm shocked that the players are silent thus far. If I recall correctly the Buzz commits and players pretty much all said they were out when he left and Wojo had to rerecruit them to the program.

[MU82]

I posted a Chicago Tribune article about Moser last week (I think) and there are a number of similar articles available. The gist of the articles is that Moser marches to the beat of a different drummer. I suggest a little more reading about Moser the man rather than focusing solely on Moser the coach to get a better picture of our chances of landing him.

He does not seem to be motivated solely by money. I will quickly add that I am not saying it has no importance to him, but I believe that it is a mistake assuming he will simply go to the highest bidder. My guess is, if he finally says goodbye to Loyola, he goes to either DePaul or Marquette. Milwaukee may be close enough to his beloved Chicago for him. I hope so.

Some people simply are content where they are -- being at a place where they are happy and where the main pressure is the pressure they put on themselves.

I have no idea if Moser is that, and if he'll be content to challenge himself to keep winning at Loyola rather than go up a level, but it's hardly unprecedented.

Few is the best example, obviously. There's no way he'd leave Gonzaga now, but when suitors were calling after his 3rd, 4th and 5th seasons, he had to be at least a little tempted. But he was content building something at Gonzaga, he was comfortable there, he had plenty of money to be financially free in a relatively low-cost area he liked, etc. Bob McKillop is another; had chances to move up when he was younger but loves Davidson. And there have been a few others.

They are the rarities, yes, but maybe Moser is, too.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yeah honestly I'm shocked that the players are silent thus far. If I recall correctly the Buzz commits and players pretty much all said they were out when he left and Wojo had to rerecruit them to the program.

I don't really follow the current players and recruits on social media.  Has anyone made any comments on the coaching change? 

[Silent Verbal]

Waiting another week+ for Moser is a dagger.  Obviously its what you do if he's your guy, but I fear that waiting 10+ days is going to result in major roster fallout.  Hopefully, if that is what they decide to do, they know he actually wants to job.

Once Marquette fired Wojo, the horse was out of the barn in terms of the current roster.  I'm not gonna wait on pins and needles wondering if any of the current players will stay or the recruits will remain true to their commitments.  If anybody stays, cool, that'll help for next season.  If they leave, we'll all have totally forgotten about them by year 2.  Are you sad Ahmed Hill didn't end up coming to Marquette?

[Galway Eagle]

I don't really follow the current players and recruits on social media.  Has anyone made any comments on the coaching change?

No idea. I'm not on social media anymore. I checked Lewis Garcia and Carton a few days ago on Twitter and there wasn't a mention.

[cheebs09]

Once Marquette fired Wojo, the horse was out of the barn in terms of the current roster.  I'm not gonna wait on pins and needles wondering if any of the current players will stay or the recruits will remain true to their commitments.  If anybody stays, cool, that'll help for next season.  If they leave, we'll all have totally forgotten about them by year 2.  Are you sad Ahmed Hill didn't end up coming to Marquette?

I'm just glad Scholl had the foresight to fire Wojo before the Masters. We had no chance at Hill due to all the private planes in Augusta.

[MU82]

Once Marquette fired Wojo, the horse was out of the barn in terms of the current roster.  I'm not gonna wait on pins and needles wondering if any of the current players will stay or the recruits will remain true to their commitments.  If anybody stays, cool, that'll help for next season.  If they leave, we'll all have totally forgotten about them by year 2.  Are you sad Ahmed Hill didn't end up coming to Marquette?

This. Once you determine the coach has to go, he has to go ... and let the chips fall where they may.

I am assuming all 5 (DJ, DG, JL and the top 2 recruits) will go elsewhere, that's simply what happens most of the time. I will be pleasantly surprised if any of them stay, and thrilled to death if most do.

[MUCam]

I am confident that Marquette's athletic department is communicating closely with the players. Thus, their collective silence could be viewed as a good thing. It could be viewed as them being willing to at least wait to see who the next head coach will be, which is a positive. It could even be speculated that they have an idea as to the next head coach might be and are willing to talk.

Either way, the fact that we haven't seen a mass exodus yet, I think is a good sign and something that the Athletic Department should be given credit for.

How's that for a lot of speculative word salad?

[Silkk the Shaka]

This jives with the stuff I've heard from a friend and former tOSU manager that he's kind of his own thing. He put it more that "he's kinda weird" but beat of a different drummer works too.

Music to my ears! Want him even more now.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Once Marquette fired Wojo, the horse was out of the barn in terms of the current roster.  I'm not gonna wait on pins and needles wondering if any of the current players will stay or the recruits will remain true to their commitments.  If anybody stays, cool, that'll help for next season.  If they leave, we'll all have totally forgotten about them by year 2.  Are you sad Ahmed Hill didn't end up coming to Marquette?

I mean, Hill certainly would have been nice to have around.  I certainly though about it when he was VT's best player for a few years. 

I don't really care too much about the incoming recruits outside of Aidoo, but if we can keep Lewis/Garcia/Carton/Greg intact, we have the start of a team that could be good.  If we're starting completely over, we're looking at a multi-year full rebuild, and likely at least 1 year of BAD basketball.  So yeah, I care - and getting the coaching situation resolved sooner rather than later likely helps keep those guys. 

[JakeBarnes]

I am confident that Marquette's athletic department is communicating closely with the players. Thus, their collective silence could be viewed as a good thing. It could be viewed as them being willing to at least wait to see who the next head coach will be, which is a positive. It could even be speculated that they have an idea as to the next head coach might be and are willing to talk.

Either way, the fact that we haven't seen a mass exodus yet, I think is a good sign and something that the Athletic Department should be given credit for.

How's that for a lot of speculative word salad?

Actually wondered if they had a meeting with "just bear with us and see how this plays out" as the message. Could be interesting given how quiet it has been.

[MUfan12]

I am confident that Marquette's athletic department is communicating closely with the players. Thus, their collective silence could be viewed as a good thing. It could be viewed as them being willing to at least wait to see who the next head coach will be, which is a positive.

That's how I'm choosing to look at it.

I'd also add that I doubt many of them were too heartbroken. A good number were probably more sad to see DK go.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

That's how I'm choosing to look at it.

I'd also add that I doubt many of them were too heartbroken. A good number were probably more sad to see DK go.

What makes you say that? Truthfully, it seems like Wojo had a pretty good relationship with his players. 

[NickelDimer]

That's how I'm choosing to look at it.

I'd also add that I doubt many of them were too heartbroken. A good number were probably more sad to see DK go.

Their silence on Wojo is....interesting to say the least

[StillAWarrior]

Actually wondered if they had a meeting with "just bear with us and see how this plays out" as the message. Could be interesting given how quiet it has been.

I'm sure every program that fires a coach has that meeting. Even so, I'd be surprised if everyone didn't at least put their name in the portal to see what opportunities might be out there for them. They'd be crazy not to. Hopefully the new coach can convince some of them to stick around.

[MU82]

I mean, Hill certainly would have been nice to have around.  I certainly though about it when he was VT's best player for a few years. 

I don't really care too much about the incoming recruits outside of Aidoo, but if we can keep Lewis/Garcia/Carton/Greg intact, we have the start of a team that could be good.  If we're starting completely over, we're looking at a multi-year full rebuild, and likely at least 1 year of BAD basketball.  So yeah, I care - and getting the coaching situation resolved sooner rather than later likely helps keep those guys.

That's certainly fair.

We need to hire the best coach we can get, that's first and foremost. But I also hope we're moving with some urgency. Not desperation, not speed at the expense of getting it right, but some urgency.

[blue and gold]

Because winning in the tournament is a terrible measure for projecting successful high major coaches.

Because when he was in the Dakotas he didn't just recruit the Dakotas. He recruited Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois heavily. And at Utah he hasn't just recruited Utah, he's actually become an expert in international recruiting, pulling kids from Russia, Australia, and Canada. Also because in his three years at Utah St, he's recruited 5 out of the 10 highest rated recruits in school history per 247.

The above statement in bold isn't a fact, right? But just your opinion?

It sounds like you're asserting that this is a fact.

[GooooMarquette]

Some people simply are content where they are -- being at a place where they are happy and where the main pressure is the pressure they put on themselves.

I have no idea if Moser is that, and if he'll be content to challenge himself to keep winning at Loyola rather than go up a level, but it's hardly unprecedented.

Few is the best example, obviously. There's no way he'd leave Gonzaga now, but when suitors were calling after his 3rd, 4th and 5th seasons, he had to be at least a little tempted. But he was content building something at Gonzaga, he was comfortable there, he had plenty of money to be financially free in a relatively low-cost area he liked, etc. Bob McKillop is another; had chances to move up when he was younger but loves Davidson. And there have been a few others.

They are the rarities, yes, but maybe Moser is, too.

The Few analogy is close, but IMHO there is still room to sway Moser even if money isn't his biggest motivator.

From what I can tell, Few makes ~2M and lives in Spokane. That basically gives him more money then he'll ever need for a very comfortable life in the place he calls home.

According to the article below, Moser makes ~1.1M and lives in the Chicago area. That allows him to live very comfortably in a great neighborhood...but doesn't necessarily give him lifelong security in that neighborhood. Doubling it to ~2M or more would make a huge difference. Not necessarily to make him the richest guy on the block (it probably wouldn't), but to give him the security to know he can stay there if he wants.

http://loyolaphoenix.com/2020/11/mens-basketball-coach-moser-highest-paid-at-loyola-president-rooney-comes-in-second/

I have no idea where this goes, but it still seems like there is financial wiggle room, even if Moser doesn't need to be 'rich.'

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Music to my ears! Want him even more now.

Yea Moser is a strange dude.

[Galway Eagle]

The above statement in bold isn't a fact, right? But just your opinion?

It sounds like you're asserting that this is a fact.

No it's pretty accurate for mid major coaches. I think the best example is John Groce at Ohio. A better example is year in and year out sustained success. Hell I'd take a coach that has a ton of mid major regular season titles over a mid major coach that won the conference tournament and then made the sweet 16. 

[79Warrior]

Yeah honestly I'm shocked that the players are silent thus far. If I recall correctly the Buzz commits and players pretty much all said they were out when he left and Wojo had to rerecruit them to the program.

Different time when Buzz left. MU was a mess then. No AD, brand new Pres. Scholl knows the players well and no doubt has communicated with all of them.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Yea Moser is a strange dude.

Great! Bland cookie cutter = no bueno. MU has the untucked tradition, I vastly prefer an odd bird. We need to stand out, not blend in.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

What is Moser's source of wealth?  I keep hearing that he's financially independent.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

That's certainly fair.

We need to hire the best coach we can get, that's first and foremost. But I also hope we're moving with some urgency. Not desperation, not speed at the expense of getting it right, but some urgency.

Yep.  Agreed.  IF Moser is the guy, you definitely wait.  But hopefully Moser's agent is at least willing to discuss it and make sure there is actually a fit before we waste 10 days waiting.