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Uncle Rico

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 05, 2021, 02:06:41 PM
https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1389959122943045639

jake lieberman
@jakelieberman2
Milwaukee transfer Te'Jon Lucas (
@too_smoove23
) has heard from the following schools, i'm told: BYU, Arkansas, Georgia, DePaul, St John's, Marquette, Pacific, College of Charleston, +.

Averaged 14.9 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 5.8 RPG this season.

Tweet has a typo in it, he averaged 5.8 apg, not rpg. I could dig it. Was top 25 in assist rate last season despite terrible weapons around him. Did that while keeping the turnovers at a reasonable level. Don't see him being a big scoring threat at the BEast level but his distribution and defense would be welcome.

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wadesworld

Do we get to bring Patrick Baldwin, Jr. along if we take on Te'Jon and Patrick's dad?  I'd take the trade.

MU82

Quote from: TwoWords on May 05, 2021, 11:14:23 AM
Love the defense of all-board troll MU82. Many posters here spout off with certainly that Garcia is gone. Why haven't you asked them for a source? His departure has become an assumption based on nothing but hiveminding scoopers.

I heard that Garcia is expected to return from a friend close to the program. Just like the source of every rumor or claim to inside info in the history of this forum. What were you expecting, that I'd tell you I was Shaka's brother in law? Maybe post a pic of us fishing together?

Aside from the fact that I wasn't one of the Scoopers who "spouted off with certainty that Garcia is gone," and the fact that you were the one who trolled, I can see why you went on a rant. But you be you.

As for Garcia, I hope your friend is right. I think that under Shaka and with more good players around him, Dawson could improve significantly.

Have a lovely day.
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Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 05, 2021, 02:27:32 PM
https://watchstadium.com/stadiums-2021-nba-draft-entry-tracker-05-03-2021/

Not sure if this has been posted yet but from Goodman Yesterday.
That is a lot of kids hoping to get drafted. Going to be some disappointment come draft night.

fjm

Quote from: TwoWords on May 05, 2021, 11:14:23 AM
Love the defense of all-board troll MU82. Many posters here spout off with certainly that Garcia is gone. Why haven't you asked them for a source? His departure has become an assumption based on nothing but hiveminding scoopers.

I heard that Garcia is expected to return from a friend close to the program. Just like the source of every rumor or claim to inside info in the history of this forum. What were you expecting, that I'd tell you I was Shaka's brother in law? Maybe post a pic of us fishing together?

I also heard Dawson is coming back.

But also maybe not.

We'll see.

No need for a troll like 2werds to call other people who actually post here trolls.

#playingbothsides.


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TwoWords? 

@sshole is only one word...

1SE

Quote from: We R Final Four on May 05, 2021, 05:21:12 PM
That is a lot of kids hoping to get drafted. Going to be some disappointment come draft night.

Oooff. That's a long list - if DJ left because he want to collect a paycheck overseas more power to him.

If he's going because he thinks the G-league is going to raise his stock more than another year - IDK. A few guys make it out of the G-league (of course some MU examples), but I think it's real easy to get lost in there. Anyway, good luck to him - I'll be pulling for his name to be called on draft night.
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genious expert

Quote from: 1SE on May 06, 2021, 05:59:47 AM
Oooff. That's a long list - if DJ left because he want to collect a paycheck overseas more power to him.

If he's going because he thinks the G-league is going to raise his stock more than another year - IDK. A few guys make it out of the G-league (of course some MU examples), but I think it's real easy to get lost in there. Anyway, good luck to him - I'll be pulling for his name to be called on draft night.

Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: genious expert on May 06, 2021, 06:17:30 AM
Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.

A lot of guys get drafted and sent down.  2nd rounders are always flyers.

lawdog77

Quote from: genious expert on May 06, 2021, 06:17:30 AM
Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.
https://gleague.nba.com/news/alumni-in-nba-2020-21/

brewcity77

Quote from: genious expert on May 06, 2021, 06:17:30 AM
Someone posted an article on here the other day that said something like 50% of current NBA players have played in the G-league.

While I don't doubt the numbers, I'm curious what it really means. Are there guys getting sent there for a few rehab games being counted? How many of those are guys 12-15 on the bench as opposed to starters or rotation players? How many had guaranteed NBA contracts (not two way, but full season)?

I imagine there's a wide gap between "making it out of the G League" like Robert Covington or Danny Green and "making it out of the G League" for a few 10-days like Vander Blue. I hope DJ is one of the former, but that's a big pool of guys, most of whom will be one of the latter at best.

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 06, 2021, 07:45:43 AM
While I don't doubt the numbers, I'm curious what it really means. Are there guys getting sent there for a few rehab games being counted? How many of those are guys 12-15 on the bench as opposed to starters or rotation players? How many had guaranteed NBA contracts (not two way, but full season)?

I imagine there's a wide gap between "making it out of the G League" like Robert Covington or Danny Green and "making it out of the G League" for a few 10-days like Vander Blue. I hope DJ is one of the former, but that's a big pool of guys, most of whom will be one of the latter at best.


For example, look at this from the G-League FAQ:

https://gleague.nba.com/faq/#:~:text=Who%20are%20some%20of%20the,and%20Rockets%20center%20Clint%20Capela.

"10. Who are some of the best NBA players who have played in the NBA G League?

Top players who have been assigned to the NBA G League include Bucks guard Eric Bledsoe, Jazz center Rudy Gobert, Pistons guard Reggie Jackson and Rockets center Clint Capela."

Bledsoe played 2 G-League games, Gobert played 8, and Jackson 4.  Capela played 38.  So while accurate, it's a little misleading.
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Yesterday Georgia Basketball Justin Kier (@Jkiiiiii__) Announces on his Instagram he is entering the Transfer Portal for his Final Year of Eligibility. And Georgia did lose 5 players to the Transfer Portal Total.
But Georgia did just land Oquendo.

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 06, 2021, 08:13:52 AM

For example, look at this from the G-League FAQ:

https://gleague.nba.com/faq/#:~:text=Who%20are%20some%20of%20the,and%20Rockets%20center%20Clint%20Capela.

"10. Who are some of the best NBA players who have played in the NBA G League?

Top players who have been assigned to the NBA G League include Bucks guard Eric Bledsoe, Jazz center Rudy Gobert, Pistons guard Reggie Jackson and Rockets center Clint Capela."

Bledsoe played 2 G-League games, Gobert played 8, and Jackson 4.  Capela played 38.  So while accurate, it's a little misleading.

Many of the players, like those you mentioned, are guys that the team knows are going to be on their roster before long. They want the players to get minutes and experience that they can't get if they were on the NBA roster.

jfp61

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 06, 2021, 07:45:43 AM
While I don't doubt the numbers, I'm curious what it really means. Are there guys getting sent there for a few rehab games being counted? How many of those are guys 12-15 on the bench as opposed to starters or rotation players? How many had guaranteed NBA contracts (not two way, but full season)?

I imagine there's a wide gap between "making it out of the G League" like Robert Covington or Danny Green and "making it out of the G League" for a few 10-days like Vander Blue. I hope DJ is one of the former, but that's a big pool of guys, most of whom will be one of the latter at best.

Like 2 players on nearly every are currently on two way G league contracts. Thats 13 of the 50%.  I don't think this is particularly impressive.

Plus for the G league guys who flame out in 1-2 years, never making it to the league, would be better off being a role play for Fenerbache and making 500k per year.

G league average is still 45k.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on May 06, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
Many of the players, like those you mentioned, are guys that the team knows are going to be on their roster before long. They want the players to get minutes and experience that they can't get if they were on the NBA roster.

Sure, but it still speaks to the G League's ascension into a true developmental league.  A lot of people here talk about it like it's still the D League filled with a rag tag group of journeymen and scrubs.  Playing daily with and against NBA draft picks and guys sent down for experience is valuable and gets real eyes on you.  The point is, even if a good chunk of those 50% are 2nd round picks or roster guys sent down, it's no longer just a random guy or two a season coming up. It's like true AAA ball whereas the old D League was like playing for the Milwaukee Milkmen

Quote from: jfp61 on May 06, 2021, 12:47:55 PM
Plus for the G league guys who flame out in 1-2 years, never making it to the league, would be better off being a role play for Fenerbache and making 500k per year.

G league average is still 45k.

First off, the G League flameouts aren't choosing the G League over the top Euroleague teams. Look at Vander or Rowsey.  Their choices weren't G League or Real Madrid or CSKA Moscow.

Second, you can undoubtedly make very good money in Europe, more than the G League for sure, but no role player is making $500K.  Stars on those teams are making $1.5-2MM.  A bench level role player, like a G League guy would be is gonna be like half that at best.  I think Greg Monroe got $1MM a year when he went to Europe after leaving the NBA.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JWags85 on May 06, 2021, 01:41:00 PM
no role player is making $500K. 

Stars on those teams are making $1.5-2MM. 

A bench level role player, like a G League guy would be is gonna be like half that at best.

So a bench level role player's making > than $500k? Because half 1.5-2m is 750k-1m...
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JWags85

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 06, 2021, 01:51:33 PM
So a bench level role player's making > than $500k? Because half 1.5-2m is 750k-1m...

Sorry, I meant half of his $500K estimate

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JWags85 on May 06, 2021, 01:57:59 PM
Sorry, I meant half of his $500K estimate

Oh got it. To be fair even half the 500k is still more than any lawyer, doctor, or engineer made I know of made after school for quite some time. I'd gladly be an average player on a team for that money
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RubyWiscy

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 06, 2021, 02:08:32 PM
Oh got it. To be fair even half the 500k is still more than any lawyer, doctor, or engineer made I know of made after school for quite some time. I'd gladly be an average player on a team for that money

If that is for a 10 day contract, even better! I have no idea how these things work.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on May 06, 2021, 01:41:00 PM
Sure, but it still speaks to the G League's ascension into a true developmental league.  A lot of people here talk about it like it's still the D League filled with a rag tag group of journeymen and scrubs.  Playing daily with and against NBA draft picks and guys sent down for experience is valuable and gets real eyes on you.  The point is, even if a good chunk of those 50% are 2nd round picks or roster guys sent down, it's no longer just a random guy or two a season coming up. It's like true AAA ball whereas the old D League was like playing for the Milwaukee Milkmen


I wasn't trying to be argumentative as I agree with all you say here. I was simply referencing a small subset of players from another post.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1391217491704258560

Jake
@jakeweingarten
Since entering the transfer portal, UGA transfer Justin Kier tells
@Stockrisers
he's heard from Cincinnati, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Marquette, Penn State, BYU, Nevada, Coastal Carolina, JMU, FGCU, and others.

Averaged 9.5 points and 3.7 rebounds per game this past season.
9:24 PM · May 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Wouldn't be a bad pickup but not one I'd be over the moon about either. Decent 3P shooter and like all of Shaka's reach outs, has a high steal %. Definitely seems like Shaka is going to value forcing turnovers.
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MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 08, 2021, 11:19:39 PM
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1391217491704258560

Jake
@jakeweingarten
Since entering the transfer portal, UGA transfer Justin Kier tells
@Stockrisers
he's heard from Cincinnati, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Marquette, Penn State, BYU, Nevada, Coastal Carolina, JMU, FGCU, and others.

Averaged 9.5 points and 3.7 rebounds per game this past season.
9:24 PM · May 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Wouldn't be a bad pickup but not one I'd be over the moon about either. Decent 3P shooter and like all of Shaka's reach outs, has a high steal %. Definitely seems like Shaka is going to value forcing turnovers.

Justin Kier played at George Mason in 2020 the year previous to Tyler Kolek.

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Dex Akanno is announcing his decision today.

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