2021 Transfer Portal

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Now thatd be a get that'd make us forget about Carton real real quick.

There are chuckers and then there's Remy Martin. Just an FYI, there's no D in his name or game either.

[Hards Alumni]

Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)

VSOP baby!

[Galway Eagle]

There are chuckers and then there's Remy Martin. Just an FYI, there's no D in his name or game either.

Darn.

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Darn.

Don't get me wrong, he's an exciting player. But more fun to watch as a neutral. He'd be maddening to watch for an entire season.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I'd take Remy Martin over Courvoisier (McCauley).

[Herman Cain]

Now thatd be a get that'd make us forget about Carton real real quick.

Martin shows up and plays hard every play. Would be a very good get.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I would absolutely take Martin. Very good player. High scoring PG with a TO rate south of 14%.

[Silkk the Shaka]

There are chuckers and then there's Remy Martin. Just an FYI, there's no D in his name or game either.

Yeah agreed. I doubt there's mutual interest from either side, but I would take a pass. He wouldn't tip the scales here early, but would be the exact opposite of the style I'm hoping Shaka is trying to build and would only serve to take time away from the long-term development of the young guards that will hopefully become program staples.

[Warrior Code]

Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)

Sticking with my predilection for players with great names (it's my number one recruiting criteria), I say sign him immediately.

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I would absolutely take Martin. Very good player. High scoring PG with a TO rate south of 14%.

There are some players where you look at their stats and they look like all world players. But then you watch them play live and you're like, "no wonder this team is trash." I call it the Ricky Davis syndrome. Exciting player, good to have on your fantasy team, but not a guy to elevate a team over the course of the season. Remy Martin is that guy.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Remy Martin, two time first team Pac 12 guard from Arizona State, has entered the transfer portal. (He was previously recruited by Smart/Texas in high school.)

Hope Marquette lands Remy Martin or Darryl Morsell

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

There are some players where you look at their stats and they look like all world players. But then you watch them play live and you're like, "no wonder this team is trash." I call it the Ricky Davis syndrome. Exciting player, good to have on your fantasy team, but not a guy to elevate a team over the course of the season. Remy Martin is that guy.

I'll take your word for it. I didn't watch a second of Arizona State basketball last season. I caught a few games the proceeding years and thought Remy was a good player with poor teammates. My guess is Remy ends up transferring to a contender and that team is happy to have his services.

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I'll take your word for it. I didn't watch a second of Arizona State basketball last season. I caught a few games the proceeding years and thought Remy was a good player with poor teammates. My guess is Remy ends up transferring to a contender and that team is happy to have his services.

He could be a good fit given the right situation - Mcclung at Texas Tech comes to mind.

[wadesworld]

I'd take Remy at Marquette in a heartbeat.  Especially because we're going to be a team with a lot of length and athleticism defensively, so we can hide him on their worst perimeter player, and because we're going to be a team that struggles to score, and he can score very well.

My guess is he'll have plenty of interest from programs as good and better than Marquette.

[Tha Hound]

I'd take Remy at Marquette in a heartbeat.  Especially because we're going to be a team with a lot of length and athleticism defensively, so we can hide him on their worst perimeter player, and because we're going to be a team that struggles to score, and he can score very well.

My guess is he'll have plenty of interest from programs as good and better than Marquette.

Got to agree. He's a proven, high volume scoring PG. Gee I wonder what we're missing on this years team?

[Skip Intro]

Got to agree. He's a proven, high volume scoring PG. Gee I wonder what we're missing on this years team?

Yeah, there's no way I'd pass him up if he wanted to play for Marquette.  He's a lot like Markus (although a much less accurate 3 pt shooter and with fewer TOs).  He'll have a lot of suitors.

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Signing a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.

Exciting player but it's not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand.......

[wadesworld]

Signing a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.

Exciting player but it's not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand.......

How would Morsell be any different?  He's here for a single year, just like Remy would be.

Shaka would not be falling into any trap Wojo did.  Shaka will have retained a maximum of 5 of Wojo's players (one of who he recruited when he was at Texas), plus two of his recruits, out of a possible 11 returning players and 3 incoming recruits he could have had.  Wojo retained 7 of Buzz's 9 possible returning players, plus one of Buzz's four recruits.

Shaka brought in 3 of his own recruits plus 2 underclass transfers and one upperclass transfer.  Wojo brought in one senior transfer and zero of his own recruits.

Shaka is very clearly building the program from ground zero.  Wojo tried to piece together what was already here, mostly because he had to as nobody he had been recruiting was going to leave the chance to play for K at Duke and follow him to Marquette.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Signing a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.

Exciting player but it's not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand.......

100% agreed

[panda]

How would Morsell be any different?  He's here for a single year, just like Remy would be.

Shaka would not be falling into any trap Wojo did.  Shaka will have retained a maximum of 5 of Wojo's players (one of who he recruited when he was at Texas), plus two of his recruits, out of a possible 11 returning players and 3 incoming recruits he could have had.  Wojo retained 7 of Buzz's 9 possible returning players, plus one of Buzz's four recruits.

Shaka brought in 3 of his own recruits plus 2 underclass transfers and one upperclass transfer.  Wojo brought in one senior transfer and zero of his own recruits.

Shaka is very clearly building the program from ground zero.  Wojo tried to piece together what was already here, mostly because he had to as nobody he had been recruiting was going to leave the chance to play for K at Duke and follow him to Marquette.

Morsell is a well rounded, big, strong team oriented guard who can influence the game on multiple levels.

Martin is a small guard who is indifferent to all aspects of the game except getting as many shots up as possible.

He would be a bad fit for a one year guy with a young team whereas Morsell is the opposite.

[Silkk the Shaka]

How would Morsell be any different?  He's here for a single year, just like Remy would be.

Shaka would not be falling into any trap Wojo did.  Shaka will have retained a maximum of 5 of Wojo's players (one of who he recruited when he was at Texas), plus two of his recruits, out of a possible 11 returning players and 3 incoming recruits he could have had.  Wojo retained 7 of Buzz's 9 possible returning players, plus one of Buzz's four recruits.

Shaka brought in 3 of his own recruits plus 2 underclass transfers and one upperclass transfer.  Wojo brought in one senior transfer and zero of his own recruits.

Shaka is very clearly building the program from ground zero.  Wojo tried to piece together what was already here, mostly because he had to as nobody he had been recruiting was going to leave the chance to play for K at Duke and follow him to Marquette.

Morsell is a 6'5" defensive stud who would probably come in to play a pass-first PG or point forward type role, whereas Martin is a 6' chucker that doesn't play D... do you see a difference now?

[wadesworld]

Morsell is a 6'5" defensive stud who would probably come in to play a pass-first PG or point forward type role, whereas Martin is a 6' chucker that doesn't play D... do you see a difference now?

Yes.  And given that we have 0 players on the roster (still considering Garcia is not on the roster for now, since he is still entered into the Draft) that have ever averaged over 8 points per game at the high major level, I'll take the guy that has proven he can score if he wants to play here..  At some point, somebody needs to score the basketball.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Yes.  And given that we have 0 players on the roster (still considering Garcia is not on the roster for now, since he is still entered into the Draft) that have ever averaged over 8 points per game at the high major level, I'll take the guy that has proven he can score if he wants to play here..  At some point, somebody needs to score the basketball.

You didn't ask if Morsell could score as well as Martin, you asked how the two would be any different.

[panda]

Yes.  And given that we have 0 players on the roster (still considering Garcia is not on the roster for now, since he is still entered into the Draft) that have ever averaged over 8 points per game at the high major level, I'll take the guy that has proven he can score if he wants to play here..  At some point, somebody needs to score the basketball.

You watch him play much last season or did you just take a quick peak at his kenpom page when you saw he was transferring?

[wadesworld]

You watch him play much last season or did you just take a quick peak at his kenpom page when you saw he was transferring?

I have watched him play many times over the last 4 seasons. I'd take him in a heartbeat. His strengths are what this roster is missing and his weaknesses are what this roster could hide. Plus defensively he gets steals which is what Shaka values and he doesn't turn the ball over that much.

There's a reason he'll be an incredibly sought after player. Maybe you know better than a majority of high major coaches though.