The Hey its 2021 now guys MLB thread

[Uncle Rico]

Agree about the pearl-clutching. And like you, I doubt this will cost Baez anything in FA ... but who cares if it does? It's his wallet.

But it was dopey and counterproductive by Baez and Lindor. You're not gonna "beat" the fans. You've sucked. Act like adults and take your medicine.

Honestly, more players should boo fans.  Too many fans are morons

[GB Warrior]

Honestly, more players should boo fans.  Too many fans are morons

*Derick Wilson turns to student section and moons them*

[Jockey]

Cohen spent $2.4 Billion to buy the Mets. He, nor any other owner, is going to allow a punk or two to abuse the people who are paying the freight (the fans).

Baez is not being booed because people don't like him. He is being booed because of his play on the field. Teams will pay for the Corey Seagers and Carlos Correas of the world. They will pay an awful lot less for Javy Baez. The numbers dictate that.

[#UnleashSean]

*Derick Wilson turns to student section and moons them*

He'd probably miss.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He'd probably miss.

[Jockey]

Javy jeered pretty good every time his name was announced in the game today.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

*Derick Wilson turns to student section and moons them*

Hope Joe Buck isn't around.

[JWags85]

Cohen spent $2.4 Billion to buy the Mets. He, nor any other owner, is going to allow a punk or two to abuse the people who are paying the freight (the fans).

Baez is not being booed because people don't like him. He is being booed because of his play on the field. Teams will pay for the Corey Seagers and Carlos Correas of the world. They will pay an awful lot less for Javy Baez. The numbers dictate that.

So now a player who people have loved and celebrated for his personality and flair during his career is a "punk".  And making a completely benign, nowhere near vulgar or offensive, sign is "abusing" fans.  We know you don't like Baez and think he sucks but get a grip.  I'd say Carlos Correa is far more of a "punk" given he and his buddies rampantly cheated for years.

And what are you talking about contract wise? Seager, Baez, and Correa are all 1 year arbitration contacts of $11-13MM each. The numbers haven't dictated anything in terms of big deals, nor is Baez offered "much less".  It's all just speculation that you are using as fact to support an opinion.

[Jockey]

So now a player who people have loved and celebrated for his personality and flair during his career is a "punk".  And making a completely benign, nowhere near vulgar or offensive, sign is "abusing" fans.  We know you don't like Baez and think he sucks but get a grip.  I'd say Carlos Correa is far more of a "punk" given he and his buddies rampantly cheated for years.

And what are you talking about contract wise? Seager, Baez, and Correa are all 1 year arbitration contacts of $11-13MM each. The numbers haven't dictated anything in terms of big deals, nor is Baez offered "much less".  It's all just speculation that you are using as fact to support an opinion.

I love Baez's attitude on the field. Players should be happy. They should celebrate when they do something good that contributes to their team winning. I am not talking bat flips when the team is down 11-0 and am not saying Baez does this. But when you disrespect fans who are upset because you suck, when you strike out 35% of the time, that is being a punk.


Contracts? We'll see. But Javy won't get close to what Seager gets and probably not near what Correa gets.

[JWags85]

Glad we agree that "the numbers dictate" nothing yet and it's largely baseless speculation. 

And I'm not in the camp of excusing any fan behavior and they should be deified.  Cause they don't pay the salaries anymore, TV does. That same fan booing him that's being "abused" would fall all over himself to get an autograph from him if he saw him in an airport and would name his kid after him if he hit .333 the rest of the way and led the Mets to even an NLCS with Lindor

[Jockey]

Glad we agree that "the numbers dictate" nothing yet and it's largely baseless speculation. 

And I'm not in the camp of excusing any fan behavior and they should be deified.  Cause they don't pay the salaries anymore, TV does. That same fan booing him that's being "abused" would fall all over himself to get an autograph from him if he saw him in an airport and would name his kid after him if he hit .333 the rest of the way and led the Mets to even an NLCS with Lindor

I pretty much agree, although you are picking nits when you say TV pays the bills. They do so, of course, only because of the number of fans watching.

[Jockey]

Boxberger, (7th inning), Williams (8th), and Hader (9th) gave up a total of 1 run in August.

[MuggsyB]

I'm watching a bit of SF/Milwaukee.  The Brewers are no joke.  Lots of good lefty hitters.  Not sure what's up with the Giants' unis tonight. 

[Jockey]

I'm watching a bit of SF/Milwaukee.  The Brewers are no joke.  Lots of good lefty hitters.  Not sure what's up with the Giants' unis tonight.

Guessing that they are throwbacks.

[GB Warrior]

John Smoltz: Hates modern baseball and modern science!

https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/al-leiter-john-smoltz-wont-appear-in-studio-at-mlb-network-after-refusing-vaccine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Jockey]

Smoltz was a great pitcher. He is an outstanding color guy - maybe the best.

But he is still the same d-bag as always. No surprise he and Chipper played together for so long.

[Warriors4ever]

And the network made a 'compromise' allowing them to work remotely.
Entitlement and the privilege of the powerful  rule again. Either have a policy or don't.

[The Sultan]

And the network made a 'compromise' allowing them to work remotely.
Entitlement and the privilege of the powerful  rule again. Either have a policy or don't.

Work remotely when they are studio analysts.  Still allow Smoltz to work onsite when he is a game analyst.

[Macallan 18]

I'm watching a bit of SF/Milwaukee.  The Brewers are no joke.  Lots of good lefty hitters.  Not sure what's up with the Giants' unis tonight.

The Giants' unis are part of the City Connect series, a collaboration between Major League Baseball and Nike intended to shake up uniform design across the sport.

So far they have unveiled seven City Connect uniforms -- Arizona Diamondbacks, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers, Miami Marlins and San Francisco Giants. By the end of the 2023 season every team is expected to have its own iteration.

https://news.nike.com/news/nike-mlb-city-connect-series-2021-22

[Macallan 18]

Safe to say that Javy Baez is the best booer in baseball?

I think he just couldn't find a more tactful way to express his desire for all Mets fans to eat sh*t and die - https://www.theonion.com/javy-baez-wishes-he-d-found-more-tactful-way-to-express-1847592686

Have enjoyed reading this Reddit thread about most memorable ridiculous Mets story other than the Baez thumbs down - https://old.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/pelizk/whats_your_favorite_ridiculous_mets_story_in/

[jficke13]

Ah the onion is fantastic.

[MU82]

Nice thing is that Baez has played a role in helping two different teams get nowhere near the playoffs this season.

Yeah, I know, Javy ... double thumbs-down to me for saying such a thing!

[Jockey]

Nice thing is that Baez has played a role in helping two different teams get nowhere near the playoffs this season.

Yeah, I know, Javy ... double thumbs-down to me for saying such a thing!

When you combine the things he is very good at with the things he isn't (getting the bat to hit the ball), he is a very average player.

Other than his very good 2018, he is a below average hitter for his career. Seager and Correa have a career OPS+ (my fave quick stat) near 130 each. Baez is at 102.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The Brewers are legit WS contenders.

[MuggsyB]

The Brewers are legit WS contenders.

No doubt Ziggy.  But what happened to Yelich?  Who is their most consistent hitter?