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wadesworld · « **Reply #1100 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:02:44 PM »

The Mets just got insanely exciting.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #1101 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:09:11 PM »

I can’t believe the Cubs couldn’t get a better package for Kimbrel. As a Sox fan, when my reaction was “that’s it???”, usually not a good sign.

Jockey · « **Reply #1102 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:10:21 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on July 30, 2021, 02:00:48 PM

Doubtful. But at least the Ricketts have all that Wrigley redevelopment money!

That and Marquee are the money trees in the future. The baseball team is a secondary stream.

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #1103 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:11:47 PM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 30, 2021, 01:58:30 PM

Will Cubs be better than Pirates next year?

Can they really get that much worse than this year? Yeah, selling the major pieces, but they weren't doing it.

Jockey · « **Reply #1104 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:12:19 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 30, 2021, 02:09:11 PM

I can’t believe the Cubs couldn’t get a better package for Kimbrel. As a Sox fan, when my reaction was “that’s it???”, usually not a good sign.

Dish, I’m sure it was the best they could do. Still decent for them because elite closers have zero value on losing teams.

tower912 · « **Reply #1105 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:15:16 PM »

Daniel Norris to the Brewers. Lefty utility reliever. Still wants to be a starter. Erratic as hell.

jesmu84 · « **Reply #1106 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:18:58 PM »

Quote from: tower912 on July 30, 2021, 12:13:53 PM

Francona stepping away from coaching to take care of his health. Smart. Like Gardenhire a year ago.

Quitting on his team? Can't wait to see the Biles reaction

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #1107 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:20:12 PM »

Cubs fans still have a couple years of Jason Heyward to look forward to.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #1108 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:20:58 PM »

I always love trading for relievers with ERAs .02 off from 6.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #1109 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:22:42 PM »

The Twins just got two players for JA Happ.

This could be the changing of the guard in how this organization makes trades.

Meanwhile, the Cards should have the whole FO drug tested.

JWags85 · « **Reply #1110 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:28:34 PM »

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 30, 2021, 02:22:42 PM

The Twins just got two players for JA Happ.

This could be the changing of the guard in how this organization makes trades.

Meanwhile, the Cards should have the whole FO drug tested.

SHHH. Don't send up the bat signal

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #1111 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:33:43 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 30, 2021, 02:09:11 PM

I can’t believe the Cubs couldn’t get a better package for Kimbrel. As a Sox fan, when my reaction was “that’s it???”, usually not a good sign.

Agree. Madrigal is a nice little (emphasis on little) player and Heuer has potential, but c’mon. The Sox could probably trade Kimbrel in the off-season for a bigger haul than they gave up (if they want to).

WI_Inferiority_Complexes1 · « **Reply #1112 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:46:14 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 30, 2021, 02:09:11 PM

I can’t believe the Cubs couldn’t get a better package for Kimbrel. As a Sox fan, when my reaction was “that’s it???”, usually not a good sign.

Do you maybe just not like Nick Madrigal?

Vander Blue Man Group · « **Reply #1113 on:** July 30, 2021, 02:47:45 PM »

I get Madrigal is not exciting and doesn't have star upside but the industry seems to think the Cubs did pretty well with that deal. I am curious what the other offers were.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #1114 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:01:31 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 06, 2021, 10:17:00 PM

I want Nick Madrigal off my baseball team, like right now. I can’t take it anymore. I don’t care if he hits .350 with all his hits being single, I can’t do this anymore with his horrendous defense and terrible base running.

From a few months ago...

Pakuni · « **Reply #1115 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:08:00 PM »

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 30, 2021, 02:47:45 PM

I get Madrigal is not exciting and doesn't have star upside but the industry seems to think the Cubs did pretty well with that deal. I am curious what the other offers were.

Yeah, I actually think it was a fair trade.
Madrigal may not be the second coming of Jose Altuve, but he's a legit MLB starter who's under control for five more seasons.
Heuer looked great last year but has been a mess this year.

Pakuni · « **Reply #1116 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:09:34 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 30, 2021, 03:01:31 PM

From a few months ago...

I'd like to think the last six weeks of Leury Garcia and Danny Mendick manning second instead may have changed your mind about this.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #1117 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:12:48 PM »

Quote from: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 03:08:00 PM

Yeah, I actually think it was a fair trade.
Madrigal may not be the second coming of Jose Altuve, but he's a legit MLB starter who's under control for five more seasons.
Heuer looked great last year but has been a mess this year.

This is what I agree with, the multi year control at little cost is the biggest upside here. Madrigal has a 70-75 hit tool, but also has three of his last four seasons have seen bad injuries (including two from baserunning).

Heuer had a very good 2020, some bad luck this year, but I for one could not trust him come this October in a big situation. Multi year control though, could bounce back.

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #1118 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:13:33 PM »

Cardinals get JA Happ and John Lester, essentially cornering the market on bad, over the hill left handed starting pitchers.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #1119 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:27:06 PM »

One thing that maybe I only find interesting, is in these crosstown mid season trades, I would assume it’s got to be easier on Tepera and Kimbrel mentally.

Don’t have to move at all, family can stay in place, kids go to same school. Just a different route to work each day.

CreightonWarrior · « **Reply #1120 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:33:07 PM »

David Ross walking into the clubhouse today

jesmu84 · « **Reply #1121 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:34:48 PM »

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on July 30, 2021, 03:33:07 PM

David Ross walking into the clubhouse today

Kris Bryant today:

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #1122 on:** July 30, 2021, 03:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 03:08:00 PM

Yeah, I actually think it was a fair trade.
Madrigal may not be the second coming of Jose Altuve, but he's a legit MLB starter who's under control for five more seasons.
Heuer looked great last year but has been a mess this year.

I think it’s TBD if Nick Madrigal is a legit MLB starting second baseman. He’s a very good contact hitter but little else - zero power, very small and so far very fragile. Not a base stealer, questionable base running instincts, below average defensively, I would rank him pretty far down the list of second basemen. He does have years of control and may get better but he looks like a replacement level player to me. I’d rather have Hernandez and he’s no all star.

Heuer, otoh, has a lot of potential. Who knows whether he will realize it.

Bottom line, if the White Sox decide they want to trade Kimbrel in off season I don’t see why they won’t be able to get at least the equivalent of Madrigal/Heuer in return. They can make that decision later. In the meantime, they get Kimbrel for the stretch run/postseason for nothing (other than his salary).

JWags85 · « **Reply #1123 on:** July 30, 2021, 04:41:10 PM »

Cubs give Bryant away for a song. Not even surprised. It became more and more apparent today that this was about dumping salary as opposed to trying to strategically accrue assets for the future.

Baez and a pitcher for a prospect coming off shoulder surgery. Yay!

Really banking on the pink hat Cubs fans to fill Wrigley through the next few seasons while treating the team like the mid 2000s Marlins.

When Epstein rebuilt the Cubs, you could see the vision. You could see what they were trying to do. With this firesale, no damn idea.

tower912 · « **Reply #1124 on:** July 30, 2021, 04:43:05 PM »

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 30, 2021, 02:18:58 PM

Quitting on his team? Can't wait to see the Biles reaction

He has had health struggles the last couple of years. Going to try to get healthy for next year.

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