The Hey its 2021 now guys MLB thread

[Jockey]

I have not seen anything written on this, but does anyone here think that teams will be hesitant to trade for someone who isn't vaccinated?

I'm thinking of a guy like Rizzo who is being linked to the red Sox. Is it worth it to trade for him and take the chance that on Oct. 1 he could get sick AND also cause other players to miss games through close contact.

Further, there is the 85% issue. If a team is just barely over 85%, trading for Rizzo would cause the team to give up the freedoms earned if the team is over 85% vaccinated.

[JWags85]

It shows that teams value top prospects more than they used to. I remember when the Brewers got Sabathis. They gave up their #1 prospect plus Michael Brantley.

We aren’t going to see hauls like that any more.

Sure, but again, using a 5 time AS/Cy Young Contender like Darvish, a stud like Arenado, and a AS/GG/SS winner like Lindor is valid argument comp when talking about Bryant.  Comparing it Sabathia in his prime coming off a Cy Young, fair.

But using a mid level player who was on a 1 year deal a few years ago who made his first ASG at 32 and was really bad last year isnt a good comp for a guy ROY and MVP winner who has made the ASG in every full season he has played except one that he barely missed and still finished top 8 in the MVP voting that year.  Its like in the NBA if Mike Conley got traded tonight and that was used as a comp for what the Blazers should expect for Damian Lillard

[Jockey]

Sure, but again, using a 5 time AS/Cy Young Contender like Darvish, a stud like Arenado, and a AS/GG/SS winner like Lindor is valid argument comp when talking about Bryant.  Comparing it Sabathia in his prime coming off a Cy Young, fair.

But using a mid level player who was on a 1 year deal a few years ago who made his first ASG at 32 and was really bad last year isnt a good comp for a guy ROY and MVP winner who has made the ASG in every full season he has played except one that he barely missed and still finished top 8 in the MVP voting that year.  Its like in the NBA if Mike Conley got traded tonight and that was used as a comp for what the Blazers should expect for Damian Lillard

I try to look for trends more than individual cases.

So Cesar Hernandez is just a good, every day 2B (I believe there is a team option for next year, as well). Nowhere near as good as some others being traded, but an everyday player who is very good defensively and a decent hitter. Cleveland did not even get a top 30 prospect for him.

Every team has finally learned that keeping top prospects is the best way to manage salaries. They do not want to give up top 5-10 guys even for someone who they think can help put them over the top.

[Jockey]

Yankees gave up zero top 30 prospects for Joey Gallo.

Blue Jays gave up #17 prospect for Brad Hand.

[cheebs09]

You're right. Although I don't know why anyone would worry about him being thrown in. He was a Class A player who never was much good or even a top prospect.

David Green was the guy Brewers fans didn't want to lose back in the 80's - their top prospect.

At the time, I remember fans who followed things closely being excited for him. I’ve learned to not stress too much the trading of prospects since they rarely pan out. Outside of pitching prospects since that’s so expensive.

[JWags85]

Rizzo to the Yankees.  This is most assuredly going to be for a bag of balls.  This sucks.

Bryant to the Mets feels like its gonna happen to.

[WI_Inferiority_Complexes1]

Rizzo to the Yankees.  This is most assuredly going to be for a bag of balls.  This sucks.

Bryant to the Mets feels like its gonna happen to.

Looks like the Yanks #9 and #12 prospects. I’ll take it.

The Cubs are paying the remainder of Rizzo’s salary, but -as someone who bought three, $15 Old Styles to see the Cubs lose to the Reds last Tuesday- I think the team can afford it.

[GB Warrior]

Looks like the Yanks #9 and #12 prospects. I’ll take it.

The Cubs are paying the remainder of Rizzo’s salary, but -as someone who bought three, $15 Old Styles to see the Cubs lose to the Reds last Tuesday- I think the team can afford it.

How are the Ricketts gonna afford to bankroll Trumps next coup attempt

[WI_Inferiority_Complexes1]

How are the Ricketts gonna afford to bankroll Trumps next coup attempt

Exactly. When your team plays on your own TV station and you’ve bought every building within blocks of your ballpark, the least you can do is pay remainders of salaries to obtain better prospects.

[JWags85]

Looks like the Yanks #9 and #12 prospects. I’ll take it.

The Cubs are paying the remainder of Rizzo’s salary, but -as someone who bought three, $15 Old Styles to see the Cubs lose to the Reds last Tuesday- I think the team can afford it.

Pleasantly surprised.  Vizcaino throws GAS.

[Pakuni]

Whoa. ... Scherzer AND Turner to the Dodgers.

[Lennys Tap]

Whoa. ... Scherzer AND Turner to the Dodgers.

Must be nice to be a “Doyers” fan. Somewhere Chico’s head is exploding.

[#UnleashSean]

as someone who bought three, $15 Old Styles to see the Cubs lose to the Reds last Tuesday- I think the team can afford it.

Rooftops are well worth the price.

[JWags85]

Whoa. ... Scherzer AND Turner to the Dodgers.

Done with prospects they got dumping the contracts of Matt Kemp and Puig and Alex Wood to the Reds.  Thats some wheeling and dealing.

[WI_Inferiority_Complexes1]

Rooftops are well worth the price.

If I wanted to not go to the game, I could just stay home.

[Pakuni]

Nice job by the Twins getting Austin Martin (#16 overall on MLB Pipeline) and Simeon Woods (#68) for Berrios.

[tower912]

Francona stepping away from coaching to take care of his health.   Smart.   Like Gardenhire a year ago.

[JWags85]

Nice job by the Twins getting Austin Martin (#16 overall on MLB Pipeline) and Simeon Woods (#68) for Berrios.

Yea thats a hell of a haul.  Martin looks really good, SS of the future type player.

[Jockey]

Yea thats a hell of a haul.  Martin looks really good, SS of the future type player.

It was. Martin could be a pretty solid player.

[PGsHeroes32]

Twins finally made a stellar move.

Unbelievable haul for someone like Berrios who breaks under pressure

[Jockey]

Looks like Kimberly to White Sox. Will be interesting to see who they get. I would think Berger has to be part of it.

Who will close? My guess is mostly Hendriks.

[DegenerateDish]

I’m 1000% good with what the Sox gave up for Kimbrel.

[Jockey]

Good deal for Sox. Decent return for Cubs.

[Jockey]

Will Cubs be better than Pirates next year?

[JWags85]

Just when I get excited for what the Cubs get for Kimbrel (amazing that he turned around enough to garner such a return given how horrific he was last year)...

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1421181441002639363?s=20

Welp.  It was fun.  Last one out (Kris Bryant) turn out the lights.

Baez and Lindor will be fun to watch.  This blows.

Will Cubs be better than Pirates next year?

Doubtful.  But at least the Ricketts have all that Wrigley redevelopment money!