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Jockey · « **Reply #1050 on:** July 28, 2021, 07:26:50 PM »

Quote from: WI_Inferiority_Complexes1 on July 28, 2021, 06:47:46 PM

Escobar was traded to the Brewers.

This was the guy I was hoping to get. Didn't have to give up a top 30 prospect for All-Star 3rd baseman.

Cubs better lower their sights on what they are going to get.

ZiggysFryBoy · « **Reply #1051 on:** July 28, 2021, 07:29:04 PM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 28, 2021, 07:26:50 PM

This was the guy I was hoping to get. Didn't have to give up a top 30 prospect for All-Star 3rd baseman.

Cubs better lower their sights on what they are going to get.

2 no names for an all star. Boom goes the dynamite.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #1052 on:** July 28, 2021, 08:08:42 PM »

I have no idea how the Sox couldn’t put together a better package for Escobar.

Jockey · « **Reply #1053 on:** July 28, 2021, 08:11:18 PM »

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 28, 2021, 08:08:42 PM

I have no idea how the Sox couldn’t put together a better package for Escobar.

I had the same thought.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #1054 on:** July 28, 2021, 09:11:37 PM »

Can they play Escobar at first or is Urias the odd man out?

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #1055 on:** July 28, 2021, 09:20:28 PM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 28, 2021, 09:11:37 PM

Can they play Escobar at first or is Urias the odd man out?

Would be a new experience for Esky if they did.

MU82 · « **Reply #1056 on:** July 28, 2021, 09:45:29 PM »

The Twins hit 7 HR that measured almost 3,000 feet combined … and still managed to lose to the Tigers.

jsglow · « **Reply #1057 on:** July 28, 2021, 09:45:58 PM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 28, 2021, 09:11:37 PM

Can they play Escobar at first or is Urias the odd man out?

Stearns says he'll play everywhere. With no September 40 man and no August waiver wire the thought is they got depth at every position. Frankly, I think he'll be playing some LF too with Yeli in the protocol.

GB Warrior · « **Reply #1058 on:** July 28, 2021, 09:52:48 PM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 28, 2021, 09:11:37 PM

Can they play Escobar at first or is Urias the odd man out?

Think he could see some time there, but think we see a good chunk of his time platooning at first or for JBJ. He's like Hernan Perez but good

ZiggysFryBoy · « **Reply #1059 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:24:23 PM »

Stearns Said he'd play 1st against lefties.

JWags85 · « **Reply #1060 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:31:41 PM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 28, 2021, 07:26:50 PM

This was the guy I was hoping to get. Didn't have to give up a top 30 prospect for All-Star 3rd baseman.

Cubs better lower their sights on what they are going to get.

Escobar has had a nice year and thats some solid business by Stearns but he's not exactly a fair comp for a 4 time All Star and former MVP who is 3 years younger and is having a better year across the board in a decent season than Escobar's best.

The trade market is definitely depressed compared to past years, but I don't think Escobar's value has any significant impact on someone like Bryant in the market. More like a lesser version of what the Rockies got for Arenado.

Lennys Tap · « **Reply #1061 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:32:55 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on July 28, 2021, 09:45:29 PM

The Twins hit 7 HR that measured almost 3,000 feet combined … and still managed to lose to the Tigers.

The Tigers who hit zero home runs, no less.

MUBurrow · « **Reply #1062 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:39:05 PM »

The Marlins did crazy well for the Marte rental. Luzardo has boatloads of team control and was a former top prospect. The A's are a little like the Rays where any time they give up on somebody you go "what's wrong with him?" He's been pretty wild this year and has the pinkie injury, but still.

Jockey · « **Reply #1063 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:45:35 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on July 28, 2021, 10:31:41 PM

Escobar has had a nice year and thats some solid business by Stearns but he's not exactly a fair comp for a 4 time All Star and former MVP who is 3 years younger and is having a better year across the board in a decent season than Escobar's best.

The trade market is definitely depressed compared to past years, but I don't think Escobar's value has any significant impact on someone like Bryant in the market. More like a lesser version of what the Rockies got for Arenado.

Darvish,Linder, arenado, Carrasco netted one Top 5 prospect between them and they weren’t 2 month rentals. There are some dumb GMs out there, but they will be very lucky getting a top 5 prospect.

MU82 · « **Reply #1064 on:** July 28, 2021, 10:46:50 PM »

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 28, 2021, 10:32:55 PM

The Tigers who hit zero home runs, no less.

Yeah ... that's crazy! Tigers scored 17 runs without a HR ... and the Twins hit 7 HR and lost. Two fine teams, headed for greatness!

JWags85 · « **Reply #1065 on:** July 29, 2021, 10:00:57 AM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 28, 2021, 10:45:35 PM

Darvish,Linder, arenado, Carrasco netted one Top 5 prospect between them and they weren’t 2 month rentals. There are some dumb GMs out there, but they will be very lucky getting a top 5 prospect.

Thats totally fair, and I don't disagree. I just don't think the Escobar trade terms has any bearing on that.

Jockey · « **Reply #1066 on:** July 29, 2021, 10:25:57 AM »

Quote from: JWags85 on July 29, 2021, 10:00:57 AM

Thats totally fair, and I don't disagree. I just don't think the Escobar trade terms has any bearing on that.

It shows that teams value top prospects more than they used to. I remember when the Brewers got Sabathis. They gave up their #1 prospect plus Michael Brantley.

We aren’t going to see hauls like that any more.

Jockey · « **Reply #1067 on:** July 29, 2021, 10:27:38 AM »

Really good pickup for the Sox.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #1068 on:** July 29, 2021, 10:31:50 AM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 29, 2021, 10:25:57 AM

It shows that teams value top prospects more than they used to. I remember when the Brewers got Sabathis. They gave up their #1 prospect plus Michael Brantley.

We aren’t going to see hauls like that any more.

Matt LaPorta, who ended up being a complete bust at the major league level.

cheebs09 · « **Reply #1069 on:** July 29, 2021, 10:42:24 AM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2021, 10:31:50 AM

Matt LaPorta, who ended up being a complete bust at the major league level.

If I remember right, Brantley was the PTBNL that we were all hoping wasn’t going to be Taylor Green.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #1070 on:** July 29, 2021, 10:44:44 AM »

Quote from: cheebs09 on July 29, 2021, 10:42:24 AM

If I remember right, Brantley was the PTBNL that we were all hoping wasn’t going to be Taylor Green.

This is correct

Jockey · « **Reply #1071 on:** July 29, 2021, 11:10:56 AM »

Quote from: cheebs09 on July 29, 2021, 10:42:24 AM

If I remember right, Brantley was the PTBNL that we were all hoping wasn’t going to be Taylor Green.

I think you are referring to David Green -another bust who was traded to St. Louis for Ted Simmons.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #1072 on:** July 29, 2021, 11:13:13 AM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 29, 2021, 11:10:56 AM

I think you are referring to David Green -another bust who was traded to St. Louis for Ted Simmons.

No, Taylor Green is right.

https://awaybackgone.com/2014/07/09/cleveland-indians-trades-future-past-michael-brantley-vs-taylor-green/

shoothoops · « **Reply #1073 on:** July 29, 2021, 11:34:34 AM »

Quote from: Jockey on July 29, 2021, 11:10:56 AM

I think you are referring to David Green -another bust who was traded to St. Louis for Ted Simmons.

Fingers, Simmons, Vuckovich, for Green, Lapointe, Lezcano, Sorensen.

This Sunday, will be a big Hall of Fame Ceremony in St. Louis for Ted Simmons. The whole deal, number 23 retired on the red brick, outfield wall photo, statue out front with the other Hall of Famers. Worth watching for any Ted Simmons fans.

Jockey · « **Reply #1074 on:** July 29, 2021, 11:37:38 AM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2021, 11:13:13 AM

No, Taylor Green is right.

https://awaybackgone.com/2014/07/09/cleveland-indians-trades-future-past-michael-brantley-vs-taylor-green/

You're right. Although I don't know why anyone would worry about him being thrown in. He was a Class A player who never was much good or even a top prospect.

David Green was the guy Brewers fans didn't want to lose back in the 80's - their top prospect.

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