England Strain

[real chili 83]

I fully realize that this is bait, but I'll continue because it will be fun.

That is where it was version of Covid19 was detected, so yes, it is an English variant of the virus.

But golly, that's not what you said. 

[4everwarriors]

Datz racist, aina?

[wadesworld]

England's fault.

[GooooMarquette]

My ancestors came mostly from England.

This won't get me deported, will it?

[4everwarriors]

Probably knot under da Harris administration, aina?

[real chili 83]

My ancestors came mostly from England.

This won't get me deported, will it?

I'd be looking over my shoulder on Jan 21st if I were you.

[tower912]

Probably knot under da Harris administration, aina?

Yawn. 


We should be so lucky.

[real chili 83]

Datz racist, aina?

Yes, it is.  Queen Liz is kinda pissed.

[wadesworld]

Yes, it is.  Queen Liz is kinda pissed.

Lilibet

[GooooMarquette]

Yes, it is.  Queen Liz is kinda pissed.

And she's a tough one. Been running roughshod over the line of succession for decades....

[Hards Alumni]

You guys are so predictable. lol

[GooooMarquette]

Seriously, the epidemiology of this strain looks frightening. England has had some pretty strong closures and lockdowns, but the number of new cases is skyrocketing. Even if the severity is comparable to the current strain, the number of new cases could absolutely devastate healthcare systems here if it spreads at a similar rate.

And it has been detected, among other states, in California...the absolute last place where we need to strain the healthcare system further

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Seriously, the epidemiology of this strain looks frightening. England has had some pretty strong closures and lockdowns, but the number of new cases is skyrocketing. Even if the severity is comparable to the current strain, the number of new cases could absolutely devastate healthcare systems here if it spreads at a similar rate.

And it has been detected, among other states, in California...the absolute last place where we need to strain the healthcare system further

Do we know how prevalent this mutation is in the US?  I know it has been 'discovered' in those places, but I was reading that we don't really do surveillance on this like the UK and some other countries do.

[GooooMarquette]

Do we know how prevalent this mutation is in the US?  I know it has been 'discovered' in those places, but I was reading that we don't really do surveillance on this like the UK and some other countries do.

No, we don't. We haven't been doing DNA 'fingerprinting' on very many samples, so it's hard to tell how prevalent it already is. That being said, now that it is here, the evidence indicates that it will spread much more quickly than the previous strain.

And since England's numbers have been going up much more dramatically than ours even though they have more strict measures, one can only surmise that it is just getting started here. An assumption to be sure, but it seems sound based on the numbers.

[The Sultan]

Scotland announced today that everyone is at a stay at home order through the end of January.  A lot of talk that Boris Johnson is going to announce the same for England this evening.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-55531069

[GooooMarquette]

Scotland announced today that everyone is at a stay at home order through the end of January.  A lot of talk that Boris Johnson is going to announce the same for England this evening.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-55531069

I was watching BBC World News last night, and they showed part of Johnson's press conference from earlier in the day. His tone was notably more somber than it has been throughout the pandemic. A lot of 'worst is yet to come' stuff.

[GooooMarquette]

Now found in NY, on top of previous reports in CO, CA and FL.

The most heavily-populated areas in the country + a more contagious strain = going from bad to worse.

[forgetful]

No, we don't. We haven't been doing DNA 'fingerprinting' on very many samples, so it's hard to tell how prevalent it already is. That being said, now that it is here, the evidence indicates that it will spread much more quickly than the previous strain.

And since England's numbers have been going up much more dramatically than ours even though they have more strict measures, one can only surmise that it is just getting started here. An assumption to be sure, but it seems sound based on the numbers.

It's pretty embarrassing how far behind the rest of the world we are on things like this.

At this point if a new terrible strain (or new virus) showed up in the US, we wouldn't even know until another country figured out it spread there.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Now found in NY, on top of previous reports in CO, CA and FL.

The most heavily-populated areas in the country + a more contagious strain = going from bad to worse.

It could be completely wrong, but my hypothesis is that this is already a large number of our cases.  To Forgetful's point, we may have exported it for all we know.

If my tinfoil hat conspiracy is wrong, you are right that its going to get worse....

[GooooMarquette]

It could be completely wrong, but my hypothesis is that this is already a large number of our cases.  To Forgetful's point, we may have exported it for all we know.

If my tinfoil hat conspiracy is wrong, you are right that its going to get worse....

It certainly is more prevalent than the handful of cases we have detected. Just another thing the US is behind on.

But is it a large number? I'd bet against it because the trajectory of new cases in the UK has gone up dramatically faster than it has gone up here. I hope I am wrong.

[JWags85]

It could be completely wrong, but my hypothesis is that this is already a large number of our cases.  To Forgetful's point, we may have exported it for all we know.

If my tinfoil hat conspiracy is wrong, you are right that its going to get worse....

Has there been any info/findings on antibodies related to this new strain? As I mentioned in another thread, my GF had COVID in early July and just got an antibody test last month that showed both IgM and IgG antibodies, implying that she had another COVID infection in the last 6-8 weeks prior to that test (likely when I had my asymptomatic infection that gave me antibodies). I wonder if perhaps the new strain could be the reasoning for it. But that's a largely unfounded speculation

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Natural immunity can successfully fight the new mutation. 

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1348027161681092608?s=21

[Skatastrophy]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-finds-new-COVID-virus-strain-distinct-from-UK-and-Africa-types

Japan strain (found in new arrivals from Brazil) is different from both the England and Africa strains.

[Warriors4ever]

Shouldn't it be the Brazil strain then?
In the article, it also references that at least two people picked up the British strain after dining with a person who was supposed to be in quarantine after returning from the UK, but instead dined with ten people. They should do like Australia and NZ-you quarantine in a designated hotel, to stop you from doing things exactly like this guy did.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I though naming viruses feom the origin point was racist?