Seton on the dock of the bay

[The Big East]

It will be interesting to see. Given the style of play currently in the NBA, it seems height and skill is more important than brawn. He can dribble, pass and hit the open 3 (43% from 3 last year). Athleticism is probably the biggest question mark, but he seems athletic enough to me relative to 3s or more likely 4s he would be asked to guard. He looked very athletic running the floor for a transition dunk in the first half. The NBA game is so different from college, it's always interesting to see how skills translate.

Mamu had a lot of feedback on what he needed to do to reach NBA
https://www.nj.com/setonhall/2020/12/hall-of-famer-rick-pitino-nba-personnel-talk-up-seton-halls-sandro-mamukelashvilis-pro-potential.html

[Hards Alumni]

Uh, thugs? 😒

Tough and scrappy or thuggish and dirty.

Depends on your point of view, aina?

Though I do understand the dislike for the word 'thug'... since it does have racial connotations.  I would suggest others find another adjective!

[cheese ball chaser]

We already are better than we were 3 weeks ago. I still think this team can be quite good.

The numbers disagree. Our KenPom rating has actually regressed over the past 3 weeks.

[WarriorPride68]

The numbers disagree. Our KenPom rating has actually regressed over the past 3 weeks.

very easily could be sitting at 3-5 right now with @ X and Nova coming up next. thankfully we are not. will learn alot more about this team this time next week

[Billy Hoyle]

Tough and scrappy or thuggish and dirty.

Depends on your point of view, aina?

Though I do understand the dislike for the word 'thug'... since it does have racial connotations.  I would suggest others find another adjective!

In this situation I do not see any racial connotation, but I also fail to see justification for using the word for this SH team. Powell is gone and put they replaced him with a Harvard graduate.

[NickelDimer]

It will be interesting to see. Given the style of play currently in the NBA, it seems height and skill is more important than brawn. He can dribble, pass and hit the open 3 (43% from 3 last year). Athleticism is probably the biggest question mark, but he seems athletic enough to me relative to 3s or more likely 4s he would be asked to guard. He looked very athletic running the floor for a transition dunk in the first half. The NBA game is so different from college, it's always interesting to see how skills translate.

Ersan Ilyasova is a good comp and had a great career

[jesmu84]

In this situation I do not see any racial connotation, but I also fail to see justification for using the word for this SH team. Powell is gone and put they replaced him with a Harvard graduate.

Was he the one with the full strength two-handed shove of cain?

[Silent Verbal]

Was he the one with the full strength two-handed shove of cain?

Source?  Brew already covered this in a post yesterday, but there was nothing there on that play.

[IrwinFletcher]

Source?  Brew already covered this in a post yesterday, but there was nothing there on that play.

So it is written, so it is done.

[jesmu84]

Source?  Brew already covered this in a post yesterday, but there was nothing there on that play.

I disagree that there was nothing there.

And I was genuinely asking if he was the one who shoved Cain, because I honestly don't remember.

[IrwinFletcher]

I thought it was #15 Molson, though I can't say for sure.  Spent a couple of minutes looking for it but haven't been able to find it.  Not saying that it should have been a flagrant, but definitely a foul.  Count Theo's basket and we get the ball again underneath.  Would have been a good momentum swing opportunity for us.

[MarquetteDano]

I thought it was #15 Molson, though I can't say for sure.  Spent a couple of minutes looking for it but haven't been able to find it.  Not saying that it should have been a flagrant, but definitely a foul.  Count Theo's basket and we get the ball again underneath.  Would have been a good momentum swing opportunity for us.

Definitely  was a physical game and the refs let it go. Both sides tho. I think we are physical too so we dont want refs calling a foul fest but optimally want more fouls called than last game.

I think SH had like 3 team fouls late in the second half. We were low too. Optimal would be in bonus with 5-7min remain even if other team had it as well.

[jesmu84]

Definitely  was a physical game and the refs let it go. Both sides tho. I think we are physical too so we dont want refs calling a foul fest but optimally want more fouls called than last game.

I think SH had like 3 team fouls late in the second half. We were low too. Optimal would be in bonus with 5-7min remain even if other team had it as well.

Agreed here. Difference was the full-extension two-handed shove away from the play. I don't think it was malicious. But definitely a foul worth calling especially after review

Anyone remember Theo getting tossed for a shove?

[Hards Alumni]

In this situation I do not see any racial connotation, but I also fail to see justification for using the word for this SH team. Powell is gone and put they replaced him with a Harvard graduate.

Think about it this way.  If SHU was a team full of blue eyed blonde guys would they still be thugs?

There's your answer.

[lawdog77]

Think about it this way.  If SHU was a team full of blue eyed blonde guys would they still be thugs?

No, they would be called Hitler Youth.

[Class71]

Yes, they lost but I am optimistic.

1) Cain has come alive. He is finally showing what he can do.

2) McEwen is playing much stronger and smarter than last year.

3) John is now a real offensive threat and can hit the three when necessary. Who would have thought.

4) Garcia and Lewis are going to get better and better. Great play for Freshman early in the season.

5) Last but not least Carton is a smart point guard who can shoot and pass. He will jell this team.

6) More heart than we have seen in years.

7) Shots did not drop and some bad turnovers but they played at another level in the second half against a very physical team.

8) This is a team we should be proud of. Al's teams often did not hit their shots. They beat you with defense, heart and desire.

Do not underestimate this team.

[JakeBarnes]

Yes, they lost but I am optimistic.

1) Cain has come alive. He is finally showing what he can do.

2) McEwen is playing much stronger and smarter than last year.

3) John is now a real offensive threat and can hit the three when necessary. Who would have thought.

4) Garcia and Lewis are going to get better and better. Great play for Freshman early in the season.

5) Last but not least Carton is a smart point guard who can shoot and pass. He will jell this team.

6) More heart than we have seen in years.

7) Shots did not drop and some bad turnovers but they played at another level in the second half against a very physical team.

8) This is a team we should be proud of. Al's teams often did not hit their shots. They beat you with defense, heart and desire.

Do not underestimate this team.

I agree with this analysis

[Lennys Tap]

No, they would be called Hitler Youth.

Now, THAT is funny. Well done, lapdog!

[rocky_warrior]

Now, THAT is funny. Well done, lapdog!

Same to you JennysTap!

[MU82]

very easily could be sitting at 3-5 right now with @ X and Nova coming up next.

Very easily could be sitting at 8-0 right now with @X and Nova coming up next.

[WarriorFan]

MU lost to a team that played better on the day.  I'm not sure hall is a better team but they are long and strong and athletic and yesterday they made their shots.  At the end of the season this one goes to OT or is a win.

[Lennys Tap]

Same to you JennysTap!

Damn autocorrect!

[Lennys Tap]

MU lost to a team that played better on the day.  I'm not sure hall is a better team but they are long and strong and athletic and yesterday they made their shots.  At the end of the season this one goes to OT or is a win.

You're obviously unfamiliar with the way things go for us at the end of seasons.

[4everwarriors]

Very easily could be sitting at 8-0 right now with @X and Nova coming up next.

Yeah butt, da Badgers are probably sayin', "how did we lose to those stiffs in Milwaukee," hey?

[We R Final Four]

Yeah butt, da Badgers are probably sayin', "how did we lose to those stiffs in Milwaukee," hey?

Da Badgers sayin dat or ewe, Aina?