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MU82

Quote from: BM1090 on February 10, 2021, 01:22:38 PM
NBA mandates the playing of the anthem before games, Mavs will comply.

Now THAT is political correctness.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

If one segment of society feels alienated and angry about hearing the national anthem,  and another segment feels the exact opposite, what exactly is the solution?  Make a decision based on which action hemorrhages less money? 

And I'm curious to know if American basketball players kneel or stand in other countries for their national anthems if they are played?   I hate to break it to you but wokeness and cancel culture is  not moving our country towards unity or less prejudice of all kinds.  It's having the exact opposite effect. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 10, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
If one segment of society feels alienated and angry about hearing the national anthem,  and another segment feels the exact opposite, what exactly is the solution?  Make a decision based on which action hemorrhages less money? 

And I'm curious to know if American basketball players kneel or stand in other countries for their national anthems if they are played?   I hate to break it to you but wokeness and cancel culture is  not moving our country towards unity or less prejudice of all kinds.  It's having the exact opposite effect. 


The national anthem is rarely played before sporting events in most countries outside the U.S. and Canada.  It is pretty much a uniquely American tradition.

And I hate to break it to you Muggs, but mindless nationalism isn't moving our country toward unity either.  Playing the national anthem prior to a sporting event serves no purpose.  It's been politicized and used as a litmus test for "loving your country" and then wielded like a hammer.

For instance, who has been a victim of "cancel culture" more than Colin Kaepernick?  Funny because I never saw conservatives up in arms about him being "cancelled" at the time.  I wonder why???
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Last I checked players were ordered to stand for the nat.anthem in China.  Not all forms of nationslism are mindless.  I honestly don't care about the anthem per se but we're basically at a point where if you don't agree with one point of view or the other you are labeled the worst on both sides.  It's absurd and leads to further division. 

MUDPT

MU could play Radiohead for the starting lineups and fulfill the "National Anthem" requirement. Just saying...

GooooMarquette

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 10, 2021, 03:56:20 PM
Last I checked players were ordered to stand for the nat.anthem in China.  Not all forms of nationslism are mindless.  I honestly don't care about the anthem per se but we're basically at a point where if you don't agree with one point of view or the other you are labeled the worst on both sides.  It's absurd and leads to further division.


I'm not so sure China is the best example of the unifying benefits of requiring players to stand for the national anthem.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: MUDPT on February 10, 2021, 04:05:39 PM
MU could play Radiohead for the starting lineups and fulfill the "National Anthem" requirement. Just saying...


How about Hendrix from Woodstock? Hell, I'd be thrilled to stand through that.

MuggsyB

Most would agree that the two greatest national anthems ever sung were by Marvin Gaye and Whitney Houston.  Maybe they should be played before games?

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 10, 2021, 05:35:42 PM
Most would agree that the two greatest national anthems ever sung were by Marvin Gaye and Whitney Houston.  Maybe they should be played before games?

Whitney Houston recorded her version in a studio then lipsynced it at the Super Bowl. It gets an asterisk.

Besides, nobody beats Carl Lewis' rendition.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

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MuggsyB

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 10, 2021, 05:45:44 PM
Whitney Houston recorded her version in a studio then lipsynced it at the Super Bowl. It gets an asterisk.

Besides, nobody beats Carl Lewis' rendition.

Ha!

JWags85

Bucks second half meltdown is one thing. But down 1 with 2.5 left, you draw up a play that is either Giannis in the lane or him having to pull up for a long jumper? Good lord. How that wasn't a curl play or double screen for a Middleton jumper I'll never know

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on February 10, 2021, 11:41:33 PM
Bucks second half meltdown is one thing. But down 1 with 2.5 left, you draw up a play that is either Giannis in the lane or him having to pull up for a long jumper? Good lord. How that wasn't a curl play or double screen for a Middleton jumper I'll never know

Just saw that.  Strange decision by Budenholzer.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 10, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
If one segment of society feels alienated and angry about hearing the national anthem,  and another segment feels the exact opposite, what exactly is the solution?  Make a decision based on which action hemorrhages less money? 

And I'm curious to know if American basketball players kneel or stand in other countries for their national anthems if they are played?  I hate to break it to you but wokeness and cancel culture is  not moving our country towards unity or less prejudice of all kinds.  It's having the exact opposite effect.

Gotta drag the old farts and racists toward progress.  Otherwise, maybe we should have kept slavery, Jim Crow laws, never given women the right to vote.

Wokeness is such a stupid term.  Treat people how they want to be treated, not how you think they should be treated.  That should be your only rule.  The 'cancel culture is bad' narrative is being used for everything.  Should Morgan Wallen be cancelled?  What does that even mean?  He was dropped from his label, and only made more money because of it.  He should remain 'cancelled' as long as he doesn't admit his mistakes and try to fix them.  That is all the left is ever really asking for.   Instead, we have a culture where admitting you are wrong, or have learned something is impossible. 

wadesworld

Quote from: JWags85 on February 10, 2021, 11:41:33 PM
Bucks second half meltdown is one thing. But down 1 with 2.5 left, you draw up a play that is either Giannis in the lane or him having to pull up for a long jumper? Good lord. How that wasn't a curl play or double screen for a Middleton jumper I'll never know

Not only that, but how almost every coach in the NBA talks about starting and ending quarters strong and then there's Bud who ends at least one of the first three quarters (and usually the first and third quarters) with 4 backups and one starter on the court seeing their team net a negative 10 points every night is beyond me. Last night you're up 11 with about 2:30 left in the third and leave a lineup of Pat C, DJ Augustin, Bobby Portis, Tory Craig, and Middleton out there to give up an 11-2 run to cut the lead to 2 and now you're in a battle in the fourth and have given the Suns all the momentum. No surprise that the Suns then come out and hit back to back 3s to push the run to 17-2 and now you're playing catch-up after having led by double digits most of the night.

4everwarriors

Nah man, ya kant give up 125 pts every nite. Da elefant inda room iz Bud tinks out scorin' teems iz da wey ta wynn in da Association. Let it flie, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 11, 2021, 07:02:21 AM
Nah man, ya kant give up 125 pts every nite. Da elefant inda room iz Bud tinks out scorin' teems iz da wey ta wynn in da Association. Let it flie, aina?

They've been a lot better since the losses to the Pelicans and Hornets on consecutive nights.  They've been switching up their coverages defensively a lot more.  I think Jrue is getting Bud to change some things.

MUfan12

Getting a 2002 vibe from this Bucks team. They just look disjointed and disinterested.

The guard depth is a huge problem, as we're seeing with Jrue out. Almost 12 million combined to Augustin and Connaughton, who have both been bad.

The Sultan

They are going to need a new voice in the locker room after this year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

I thought you refuted my statement a month ago that Bud's ass was not getting warmer, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2021, 09:38:18 AM
I thought you refuted my statement a month ago that Bud's ass was not getting warmer, hey?


I actually think I agreed with you.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61039.msg1303387#msg1303387
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

I'm not a Bucks fan, so I don't follow news/opinions on them closely. But weren't most Scoopers who are Bucks fans actually pretty bullish on Bud? That's what I seem to recall, but I absolutely allow that I could be wrong about that.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

I don't pretend to know how this could be done, but the Bucks have to move away from Lopez. Also, need another scorer, preferably at the 2 guard, hey? As their team is constituted now, they are at best, behind the Nets and '6ers, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2021, 09:55:21 AM
I'm not a Bucks fan, so I don't follow news/opinions on them closely. But weren't most Scoopers who are Bucks fans actually pretty bullish on Bud? That's what I seem to recall, but I absolutely allow that I could be wrong about that.

He accelerated the organization by 2 years.  But he's plateaued where he plateaued in Atlanta.  He was the right hire, but he's not going to be the guy that gets them to the Finals.

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2021, 10:01:16 AM
I don't pretend to know how this could be done, but the Bucks have to move away from Lopez. Also, need another scorer, preferably at the 2 guard, hey? As their team is constituted now, they are at best, behind the Nets and '6ers, hey?

The Bucks are better than the 76ers.  The 76ers' schedule has been incredibly weak.  And their offense isn't the issue.  It's really the defensive scheme and fundamentals more than anything.  The fact that they train their wings to get airborn when closing out to a perimeter shooter is...not ideal.  And then the scheme itself is laughable, and then they start to try to adjust on the fly because it isn't working and they look like chickens with their head cut off.

I'm just hoping they're working out a deal with Jrue while he's out.  It's very clear how important he is to this team.  If he were to walk this offseason, that's a major issue.

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