Big East Poll and NET rankings

[shoothoops]

51 in Kenpom, 65 in the NET.

Yep. I typed that backwards.

It's

KenPom 51
NCAA Net 65

[shoothoops]

Where do you find the NCAA net? And what are the NET rankings Seditionist Loves the Big East is posting?

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

[shoothoops]

Lunardi has Marquette 7 teams removed from the NCAA Tourney today:

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1349384631813083138?s=19

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 13, 2021
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8   7   Villanova
13   12   Creighton
23   23   UConn   
37   37   Xavier   
53   50   Seton Hall   
64   65   Marquette   
81   80   Providence   
107   103   St. John's
157   155   Georgetown   
163   164   Butler   
171   170   DePaul

[brewcity77]

Lunardi has Marquette 7 teams removed from the NCAA Tourney today:

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1349384631813083138?s=19

I just don't see how anyone is putting Duke in the field. Their best wins are ND and BC. They've lost every game they had against tourney-level teams. Michigan State at least beat Rutgers, but they don't have much more credential to be in. I really think anyone putting those teams in is doing so simply on the basis of the name on the front of the jersey and not the resume of what they've actually done.

[The Big East]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 14, 2021
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8   8   Villanova   
14   13   Creighton   
24   23   UConn   
39   37   Xavier   
51   53   Seton Hall   
67   64   Marquette   
83   81   Providence   
103   107   St. John's
160   157   Georgetown   
167   163   Butler   
174   171   DePaul   

[The Big East]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 15, 2021
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8       8      Villanova   
17     14      Creighton   
25     24      UConn   
39     39      Xavier   
52      51      Seton Hall   
66      67     Marquette   
84      83     Providence   
108      103     St. John's
157     160     Georgetown   
167      167     Butler   
174      174     DePaul   

[The Big East]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 16, 2021
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8   8   Villanova   
23   17   Creighton   
24   25   UConn   
39   39   Xavier   
51   52   Seton Hall   
65   66   Marquette   
82   84   Providence   
121   108   St. John's
144   167   Butler   
149   174   DePaul   
161   157   Georgetown   

[Dr. Blackheart]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of January 16, 2021
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8   8   Villanova   
23   17   Creighton   
24   25   UConn   
39   39   Xavier   
51   52   Seton Hall   
65   66   Marquette   
82   84   Providence   
121   108   St. John's
144   167   Butler   
149   174   DePaul   
161   157   Georgetown

Those four anchors are a big drag for the conference with postponed games limiting upside of opponent strength. See Butler beating Creighton. Need to beat all those teams at the bottom and by 10 or better is even better. The BE out of conference record was a killer.

[The Big East]

 Big East NET rankings as of games of January 17, 2021
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8   8   Villanova   
23   23   Creighton   
25   24   UConn
39   39   Xavier   
52   51   Seton Hall   
65   65   Marquette   
80   82   Providence   
122   121   St. John's
145   144   Butler   
148   149   DePaul   
155   161   Georgetown

[The Big East]

January 18,2021
AP
3.Nova
11. Creighton
23. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
X
Coaches Poll
3. Nova
11.Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
U Conn , X

[Newsdreams]

January 18,2021
AP
3.Nova
11. Creighton
23. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
X
Coaches Poll
3. Nova
11.Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
U Conn , X

Well that not lasting long for U Conn

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 18,2021
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8   8   Villanova   
23   23   Creighton   
38   39   Xavier   
39   25   UConn   
53   52   Seton Hall   
66   65   Marquette   
82   80   Providence   
98   122   St. John's
144   145   Butler   
148   155   Georgetown   
158   148   DePaul

[PGsHeroes32]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 18,2021
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8   8   Villanova   
23   23   Creighton   
38   39   Xavier   
39   25   UConn   
53   52   Seton Hall   
66   65   Marquette   
82   80   Providence   
98   122   St. John's
144   145   Butler   
148   155   Georgetown   
158   148   DePaul

Since Uconn and SJU are both teams weve played. SJU beating Uconn didnt help us NET wise as expected. But they themselves had a massive jump, so it greatly helps our win at least.

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 19, 2021
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8   8   Villanova   
20   23   Creighton   
39   38   Xavier   
42   39   UConn   
51   53   Seton Hall   
68   66   Marquette   
80   82   Providence   
96   98   St. John's
133   144   Butler   
146   148   Georgetown   
196   158   DePaul

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 20,2021
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7   8   Villanova   
29   20   Creighton   
39   39   Xavier   
44   42   UConn   
54   51   Seton Hall   
67   68   Marquette   
68   80   Providence   
102   96   St. John's
132   133   Butler   
150   146   Georgetown   
201   196   DePaul

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 21,2021
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8   7   Villanova   
27   29   Creighton   
39   39   Xavier   
45   44   UConn   
50   54   Seton Hall   
66   67   Marquette   
67   68   Providence   
100   102   St. John's
129   132   Butler
148   150   Georgetown   
201   201   DePaul

[SaveOD238]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 21,2021
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8   7   Villanova   
27   29   Creighton   
39   39   Xavier   
45   44   UConn   
50   54   Seton Hall   
66   67   Marquette   
67   68   Providence   
100   102   St. John's
129   132   Butler
148   150   Georgetown   
201   201   DePaul

We desperately need to put some space between us and Providence.

[wadesworld]

We desperately need to put some space between us and Providence.

Again, there is no set amount of bids the Big East can get.  If Providence gets into the NCAA Tournament, it has no effect on whether or not Marquette will get into the NCAA Tournament.

[SaveOD238]

Again, there is no set amount of bids the Big East can get.  If Providence gets into the NCAA Tournament, it has no effect on whether or not Marquette will get into the NCAA Tournament.

Well there are only so many at large spots, so actually it does.  When both teams are on the bubble having a distinguishing factor in the resume can make a difference. 

Otherwise equally resumes and only one has a win at Creighton... That team gets in.  Well now we don't have that.

So beating Providence again is key to keeping us ahead of them in the bubble pecking order

[wadesworld]

Well there are only so many at large spots, so actually it does.  When both teams are on the bubble having a distinguishing factor in the resume can make a difference. 

Otherwise equally resumes and only one has a win at Creighton... That team gets in.  Well now we don't have that.

So beating Providence again is key to keeping us ahead of them in the bubble pecking order

Sure. But we need to set ourselves apart from Providence no more than we need to set ourselves apart from UNC or Rutgers or heck Xavier or Seton Hall any other bubble team. It's not an either/or between Marquette and Providence.

Marquette needs to win a lot of games before the end of the season. If Providence wins a lot of games too, we'll be just fine. Win games and everything else will sort itself out.

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 22,2021
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7   8   Villanova   
29   27   Creighton   
40   39   Xavier   
46   45   UConn   
50   50   Seton Hall   
64   66   Marquette   
67   67   Providence   
98   100   St. John's
130   129   Butler
147   148   Georgetown   
198   201   DePaul

[The Big East]

Big East NET rankings as of games of January 23, 2021
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6   7   Villanova   
27   29   Creighton   
38   40   Xavier   
44   46   UConn
53   50   Seton Hall   
68   67   Providence   
79   64   Marquette   
91   98   St. John's
120   130   Butler   
145   147   Georgetown   
147   198   DePaul

[ATL MU Warrior]

Well, at least we have now successfully distanced ourselves from Providence.

[brewcity77]

Well, at least we have now successfully distanced ourselves from Providence.

Well played.