General College Basketball Thread 2020-2021

[rocky_warrior]

https://twitter.com/onlygators/status/1337794028285419521?s=20

Fla Gator Kayontae Johnson collapses on the court and is stretchered off. Yikes! I hope the kid is OK but that's scary (note: I didn't see it just got the tweet in my feed)

Wow.  Apparently in the hospital now.  Critical but stable condition.  Still scary.

[PGsHeroes32]

Kentucky is absolutely horrendous.

[Billy Hoyle]

https://twitter.com/onlygators/status/1337794028285419521?s=20

Fla Gator Kayontae Johnson collapses on the court and is stretchered off. Yikes! I hope the kid is OK but that's scary (note: I didn't see it just got the tweet in my feed)

Absolutely ridiculous that they continued the game. Was Vince McMahon making the decision?

[naginiF]

Absolutely ridiculous that they continued the game. Was Vince McMahon making the decision?

totally agree

[CountryRoads]

Absolutely ridiculous that they continued the game. Was Vince McMahon making the decision?

Scary moment. Early reports are saying that he was one of the players who recently tested positive for COVID-19. If the doctors are able to identify a link to that, I wouldn't be surprised to see the season (and all sports) shut down again.

[PGsHeroes32]

Kentucky is absolutely horrendous.

ND is equally horrendous and UK has 1 last shot to complete a 22 point comeback

[Billy Hoyle]

Scary moment. Early reports are saying that he was one of the players who recently tested positive for COVID-19. If the doctors are able to identify a link to that, I wouldn't be surprised to see the season (and all sports) shut down again.

MU's Charles Pierce reporting that on Twitter. I hope donors are ready to step up for the settlement they'll have to pay out.

[The Sultan]

MU's Charles Pierce reporting that on Twitter. I hope donors are ready to step up for the settlement they'll have to pay out.

If they did the heart monitoring and cleared him legitimately, I don't know where the negligence would be.

Also they have insurance.

[Billy Hoyle]

If they did the heart monitoring and cleared him legitimately, I don't know where the negligence would be.

Also they have insurance.

It depends on the type of monitoring. I was on a call with team doctors over the summer who said the normal EKG most departments use won't pick up Myocarditis.

[GooooMarquette]

Scary moment. Early reports are saying that he was one of the players who recently tested positive for COVID-19. If the doctors are able to identify a link to that, I wouldn't be surprised to see the season (and all sports) shut down again.

Yep. Especially if UF did all 'required' testing and still didn't detect any abnormality.

[GooooMarquette]

It depends on the type of monitoring. I was on a call with team doctors over the summer who said the normal EKG most departments use won't pick up Myocarditis.

Yep. And depending on the patient, you may need to do far more than just an ECG to detect myocarditis.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocarditis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352544

[The Sultan]

It depends on the type of monitoring. I was on a call with team doctors over the summer who said the normal EKG most departments use won't pick up Myocarditis.

That's not the point. Liability doesn't require you to do everything you can possibly do. It requires you to do what is reasonable.

[Galway Eagle]

Notre Dame would be the one I would predict them to win.  I would predict UCLA and Louisville beat them, but I wouldn't be shocked if Kentucky won either of those.

One down two to go.

[GooooMarquette]

That's not the point. Liability doesn't require you to do everything you can possibly do. It requires you to do what is reasonable.

Correct. And the question of reasonableness will likely depend on how the screening done on Johnson compares to that typically done at other institutions or in other conferences.

I don't know what screening they did, but the article below from August indicates that schools and conferences are all over the map on the recommended screening...and that many require far more than just an ECG. It also states that 'multiple attempts to reach members of the SEC's medical advisory task force were unsuccessful or they declined to comment.' If UF and/or the SEC fall on the more lenient end of the spectrum, they could have liability issues.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability

[wadesworld]

One down two to go.

Yeah I definitely did not see ND getting out to a 22 point lead. I would now be shocked if they won either the UCLA or Louisville game. They are very bad. And UCLA is better than I expected them to be.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Such a bad flagrant one call at the end of that Mizzou/Illinois game.

Player from Mizzou basically slaps himself in the face with Cockburn's hand and Cockburn gets a flagrant called on him. It was awful.

[PGsHeroes32]

Illinois got a lot of potential by years end.


But that team is basically Ayo and a bunch of mehhhhhhh. And they defend like hot garbage.

[The Lens]

I have been thinking about the Keyontae Johnson story non stop since it happened (my wife saw if mentioned on Twitter within minutes of it happening). 

I keep refreshing Twitter.  I have unfortunately seen the video.  The updates from Florida disturbingly vague.   I really hope I am wrong but I fear the worst. 

It's so sad.

[GooooMarquette]

I have been thinking about the Keyontae Johnson story non stop since it happened (my wife saw if mentioned on Twitter within minutes of it happening). 

I keep refreshing Twitter.  I have unfortunately seen the video.  The updates from Florida disturbingly vague.   I really hope I am wrong but I fear the worst. 

It's so sad.

It is very sad. The moment I heard about it, my mind said 'Hank Gathers.' Hopefully this has a much better outcome.

[Billy Hoyle]

I have been thinking about the Keyontae Johnson story non stop since it happened (my wife saw if mentioned on Twitter within minutes of it happening). 

I keep refreshing Twitter.  I have unfortunately seen the video.  The updates from Florida disturbingly vague.   I really hope I am wrong but I fear the worst. 

It's so sad.

now in a medically induced coma.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/sec/2020/12/14/florida-keyontae-johnson-medically-induced-coma-collapse/6545308002/

[The Big East]

Praying for a miracle for Keyonte .

[brewcity77]

According to the UF Twitter account, Johnson has been transferred to a hospital in Gainesville, is still in critical condition, but is following simple commands. Would seem they used the medically induced coma to transport him & he is now out of it.

[The Lens]

Following simple commands is a great update.  They had been so radio silent I was fearing the worst.  Lets hope positive signs continue. 

[GooooMarquette]

According to the UF Twitter account, Johnson has been transferred to a hospital in Gainesville, is still in critical condition, but is following simple commands. Would seem they used the medically induced coma to transport him & he is now out of it.

Comas are commonly induced by propofol, which is very fast to act, and to reverse. My doc once used the (very simplistic) analogy of a light switch. In surgery, the allows anesthesiologists to wake patients up quickly post-op. In the induced coma setting, it allows docs to quickly assess status before putting the patient back under.

Bottom line: it is quite possible that he is still in the coma, even though they determined he is able to respond to commands. This may have been done to assess his post-transport status, and to give his new docs a baseline to assess future developments.

[wadesworld]

We had someone collapse while playing pickup about 2.5 years ago. Luckily there was an AED and we were able to use it. Took two shocks to get his heartbeat back. Thankfully, after open heart surgery, he has been able to get back into the court with us.

I have no interest in seeing the video of him collapsing. Terrifying.