Markus' NBA success

[1SE]

It’s actually not fair at all to Markus. Campozzo spent the last 4 years running the point for one of the top 4-5 best non-NBA teams and was all Spanish League first or second team the last 4 years. And he wasn’t first team in 17 or ‘18 cause he was playing behind Luka Doncic.  He managed to be Second Team all league as a backup PG.  Plus he’s a PG and he’s nearly 30.  He’s a seasoned vet pro whose natural position is PG, Markus is none of those.  College accolades are nothing compared to what he’s accomplished

If Markus put up the numbers he did while playing PG, it’s a different story.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure NCAA 1st team AA is a substantially better accolade than Spanish League 1st team. Just look at the alumni lists of both.

That said, my point was that clearly being 5'11" ultimately isn't an issue for logging meaningful minutes on a NCAA roster in 2021. Not being a true "PG" at the size appears to be.

I know Markus "worked on it" at MU, but if he/Wojo would have really focused on him getting the ball more to teammates rather than taking FGAs last year I wonder if his stock wouldn't have risen. He was at 19.3 FGAs which is insane. Passing a bit more would probably have reduced his scoring, but also increased his assists and reduced his TOs.

So let's say he goes from 27.8/3.3/3.4 to 21/5/3 - might the latter line have severed him better in the draft?

And not to go back to Hausers, but might it not have been better for his NBA prospects to have taken advantage of being able to distribute to those guys rather than to score a few more buckets?

Again, without being behind the locker-room doors it is hard to know who was behind the "Markus first" approach of the last two seasons. But it seems the "max scoring" approach wasn't ideal for maximizing his NBA chances.

[Silent Verbal]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure NCAA 1st team AA is a substantially better accolade than Spanish League 1st team. Just look at the alumni lists of both.

That said, my point was that clearly being 5'11" ultimately isn't an issue for logging meaningful minutes on a NCAA roster in 2021. Not being a true "PG" at the size appears to be.

I know Markus "worked on it" at MU, but if he/Wojo would have really focused on him getting the ball more to teammates rather than taking FGAs last year I wonder if his stock wouldn't have risen. He was at 19.3 FGAs which is insane. Passing a bit more would probably have reduced his scoring, but also increased his assists and reduced his TOs.

So let's say he goes from 27.8/3.3/3.4 to 21/5/3 - might the latter line have severed him better in the draft?

And not to go back to Hausers, but might it not have been better for his NBA prospects to have taken advantage of being able to distribute to those guys rather than to score a few more buckets?

Again, without being behind the locker-room doors it is hard to know who was behind the "Markus first" approach of the last two seasons. But it seems the "max scoring" approach wasn't ideal for maximizing his NBA chances.

The talent in the NBA is unbelievable, and pretty much every single guy on the floor at any given time can hit the open three.  Those guys just make everything.  So while Markus' shooting is enough to get him on a roster, what he can do isn't really that special when you put him up against all the other players in the league.  Combine that with his height and the fact that he can't guard NBA players, and you have a guy who'll probably surpass Vander as the G-League's all time leading scorer and will occasionally get on an NBA roster as a 10th-12th man.  But that's about it.  He isn't even close to being in the Nuggets' rotation right now.

[SaveOD238]

...and you have a guy who'll probably surpass Vander as the G-League's all time leading scorer...

I didn't believe this when I read it, but Vander is absolutely the #2 all time leading scorer in the GLeague behind Renaldo Major.  He needs about 200-some points to catch up. Is he on a GL roster this season?

[JWags85]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure NCAA 1st team AA is a substantially better accolade than Spanish League 1st team. Just look at the alumni lists of both.

That said, my point was that clearly being 5'11" ultimately isn't an issue for logging meaningful minutes on a NCAA roster in 2021. Not being a true "PG" at the size appears to be.

The teams that Campazzo played against night in and night out the last 4 years would absolutely obliterate basically every team Markus put up his numbers against. That’s not up for debate.  Sure most of those guys on the Liga ACB 1st team wouldn’t be major NBA contributors...but then again neither are the majority of NCAA AAs when drafted or in the league a year or 2.

But as for height, we’ve been saying that for months with Markus, PGs can be smaller cause they are handling the ball off the dribble more and defenses need to sag due to their threat to pass.  If you have top level PG skills, you can be 5’9 and make it work

[Newsdreams]

The teams that Campazzo played against night in and night out the last 4 years would absolutely obliterate basically every team Markus put up his numbers against. That’s not up for debate.  Sure most of those guys on the Liga ACB 1st team wouldn’t be major NBA contributors...but then again neither are the majority of NCAA AAs when drafted or in the league a year or 2.

But as for height, we’ve been saying that for months with Markus, PGs can be smaller cause they are handling the ball off the dribble more and defenses need to sag due to their threat to pass.  If you have top level PG skills, you can be 5’9 and make it work

JJ Barea 5'-10" 14 yrs NBA

[PGsHeroes32]

Markus has scored in the NBA

[wadesworld]

Markus has scored in the NBA

Was he shooting while his team was trailing under a minute left? Because if he was my god is he the absolute worst.

In all seriousness, good for him. It won’t be the last time.

[The Big East]

Markus had 2 points and an assist in 2 minutes on 1-3 shooting. Denver beat The Knicks 114-89.

Happy for his success and wish him more .

[We R Final Four]

That is great news! Happy for MH!

[SaveOD238]

Markus had 2 points and an assist in 2 minutes on 1-3 shooting. Denver beat The Knicks 114-89.

Happy for his success and wish him more .

Took 3 shots in 2 minutes.  Of course he did.

Happy for MH, though.  Hopefully these are the first points of many

[Billy Hoyle]

Markus had 2 points and an assist in 2 minutes on 1-3 shooting. Denver beat The Knicks 114-89.

Happy for his success and wish him more .

So he finally won a game in MSG, eh?

[PGsHeroes32]

So he finally won a game in MSG, eh?

Hey!

We waxed the Johnnies before the Seton Hall fight club game.

That was one of our only wins the last 1.5 months of the season.

[1SE]

5 possessions, 3 shots. The boy likes to shoot! 

[rocky_warrior]

5 possessions, 3 shots. The boy likes to shoot!

I don't think they signed him to a contract for his rebounding.

[JWags85]

I don't think they signed him to a contract for his rebounding.

And completely ignoring the goal of those late minutes, which is to get players reps in what they do well.  It’s feed Bol, Hampton, and Markus and get them shots.  Both Hampton (as a first round pick who had been on NBA radars for awhile) and Bol (as a much talked about second year guy) likely attracted more attention which gives Markus opportunities.  Malone wasn’t putting Markus in there to patiently work the offense and make crisp entry passes to the post.

[Not A Serious Person]

So far is has logged a total of 10 minutes in the NBA.

During that time:

2 for 9 FG shooting (4 points)
0 for 6 3P shooting
1 assist, 2 fouls

15 shots in 10 minutes.  I guess that is why he gets paid.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4065805/markus-howard

[wadesworld]

So far is has logged a total of 10 minutes in the NBA.

During that time:

2 for 9 FG shooting (4 points)
0 for 6 3P shooting
1 assist, 2 fouls

15 shots in 10 minutes.  I guess that is why he gets paid.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4065805/markus-howard

If he is 2 for 9 on FGs he has taken 9 shots in 10 minutes.

[CountryRoads]

A shame that Markus is not ahead of Campazzo on that roster who is pretty much a complete nothing that somehow gets minutes. It looks like Markus was not on the 15 man roster last night, so hopefully he makes it back soon.

[The Big East]

A shame that Markus is not ahead of Campazzo on that roster who is pretty much a complete nothing that somehow gets minutes. It looks like Markus was not on the 15 man roster last night, so hopefully he makes it back soon.

Campazzo getting paid big bucks so the Nuggets  are going to play him. The Nuggets spent a ton of time scouting him. Markus agent obviously didn’t do his research on the situation

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/12/20/facundo-campazzo-denver-nuggets-real-madrid-spain/

[1SE]

A shame that Markus is not ahead of Campazzo on that roster who is pretty much a complete nothing that somehow gets minutes. It looks like Markus was not on the 15 man roster last night, so hopefully he makes it back soon.

Was that bound to happen because of the two-way, or was there some expectation this year that basically the two-way guys would pretty much be available to be on the roster for every game (if the coach wanted them to be)

[TSmith34, Inc.]

If he is 2 for 9 on FGs he has taken 9 shots in 10 minutes.

His game minutes have gone from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4. Just a matter of time before he is playing 48/game, obviously.

[wadesworld]

His game minutes have gone from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4. Just a matter of time before he is playing 48/game, obviously.

And hoisting 98 shots a game!

[JWags85]

Campazzo getting paid big bucks so the Nuggets  are going to play him. The Nuggets spent a ton of time scouting him. Markus agent obviously didn’t do his research on the situation

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/12/20/facundo-campazzo-denver-nuggets-real-madrid-spain/

A shame that Markus is not ahead of Campazzo on that roster who is pretty much a complete nothing that somehow gets minutes. It looks like Markus was not on the 15 man roster last night, so hopefully he makes it back soon.

Campazzo is a pure PG who comes in to facilitate and run the offense. That is not Markus’ role.  He’s a pure scorer and unfortunately Denver has a lot of those. Campazzo can do a ton of things that Markus cannot and that’s why he’s playing.

[lawdog77]

Markus buries 2 threes last night. His per 40 minute averages are pretty good.

P/40   R/40   A/40   TS%   AST   TO   USG   REBR   PER   WINPERCENT   WARP
30.8   0.0   9.2   45.5   21.4   -1.0   37.9   0.0   14.88   -   -
Data provided by Elias Sports Bureau

[TSmith34, Inc.]

And hoisting 98 shots a game!

Just like college.