Vote Counts in AZ & GA?

[Not A Serious Person]

That's because you are (per usual) shifting goalposts when it suits your narrative to make yourself look like the smartest man in the room.

Because it doesn't take more than a cursory look to show that the two situations are being treated very differently.

Actually, it is not, but whatever it takes to keep you thinking you're morally superior.

[shoothoops]

Shoot,

Will they be recounting the senate races?  And if the recount puts Perdue over 50%, does that cancel the run-off and give him the election?

Note this is far different than trying to overtake an opponent like Trump has to do.  In the Senate race if enough third-party and write-in votes are deemed invalid, that raises Perdue's %.  As of the last count, Perdue has 49.72% of the vote.  Needs 50.00% + 1 to avoid a run-off.

No.

Georgia's other non Senate run off races will move from Dec 1 to January 5th with the others.

Biden leads Georgia by over 14k and that could grow in small numbers as the final 62 counties are certified. Typically recounts may affect a few votes here and there, a few hundred, but certainly not 14,000 nor anywhere close to that. The margin of victory is large for a hand recount.

So the two Senate run off races will take place on January 5th. And Biden will be declared the winner of Georgia after certification, audit, and recount are complete of the recent Presidential Election.

Biden will finish with 306 Electoral Votes.

Voting Registration deadline for January 5th run off races is December 7th. Early voting for it begins December 14th. 17 year olds turning 18 by January 5th may vote. Absentee requests must be made by November 18th, and can be done here:

https://ballotrequest.sos.ga.gov/

[Not A Serious Person]

No.

Georgia's other non Senate run off races will move from Dec 1 to January 5th with the others.

Biden leads Georgia by over 14k and that could grow in small numbers as the final 62 counties are certified. Typically recounts may affect a few votes here and there, a few hundred, but certainly not 14,000 nor anywhere close to that. The margin of victory is large for a hand recount.

So the two Senate run off races will take place on January 5th. And Biden will be declared the winner of Georgia after certification, audit, and recount are complete of the recent Presidential Election.

Biden will finish with 306 Electoral Votes.

Voting Registration deadline for January 5th run off races is December 7th. Early voting for it begins December 14th. 17 year olds turning 18 by January 5th may vote. Absentee requests must be made by November 18th, and can be done here:

https://ballotrequest.sos.ga.gov/

Can Perdue request a recount of his race?

[Skatastrophy]

Wasn't the last report stating that there was tampering? But no evidence/not enough that trump specifically colluded? Seems like that was worth investing.

Filing legal challenges claiming you weren't able to have GOP reps in the room and then saying "we had a nonzero number" in there is comical and grasping at straws.

Mueller did a surprisingly good job investigating despite being hand-picked as a republican sycophant. Because of his investigation a bunch of people went to jail over conspiring with Russia to interfere in the 2016 presidential election including Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Konstantin Kilimnik, George Papadopoulos, and 6 other conspirators. Guys like Michael Flynn and Rick Gates agreed to turn state's witness after being caught and charged with lying during the investigation.

"Individual-1" (Trump) will be charged after he's no longer president.

The "party of law and order" needs to do some soul searching to find out what went wrong along the way.

[lawdog77]

Mueller did a surprisingly good job investigating despite being hand-picked as a republican sycophant. Because of his investigation a bunch of people went to jail over conspiring with Russia to interfere in the 2016 presidential election including Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Konstantin Kilimnik, George Papadopoulos, and 6 other conspirators. Guys like Michael Flynn and Rick Gates agreed to turn state's witness after being caught and charged with lying during the investigation.

"Individual-1" (Trump) will be charged after he's no longer president.

The "party of law and order" needs to do some soul searching to find out what went wrong along the way.

Which ones of these went to jail for conspiring with Russia ?

[cheebs09]

Right.  If you are going to go through the effort to commit massive voter fraud in Georgia, why wouldn't you also elect the two Democratic Senate candidates?

Makes me wonder about the strategy of the GA Republican Senator candidates doubling down on the fraud narrative. Will they lose those voters who voted for them, but against Trump by following this ridiculousness.

[Pakuni]

Tampering was not proven or was it the conclusion of the report.  Above is from the fever swamps of the unhinged.

Tampering was proven and it was in the conclusion of the report. You're either trolling or delusional (or both).
Read it:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

"Fever swamps of the unhinged" = Republican Senate report. Rubio, Cornyn, Cotton, etc. are all part of the Deep State!

[Not A Serious Person]

Mueller did a surprisingly good job investigating despite being hand-picked as a republican sycophant. Because of his investigation a bunch of people went to jail over conspiring with Russia to interfere in the 2016 presidential election including Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Konstantin Kilimnik, George Papadopoulos, and 6 other conspirators. Guys like Michael Flynn and Rick Gates agreed to turn state's witness after being caught and charged with lying during the investigation.

"Individual-1" (Trump) will be charged after he's no longer president.

The "party of law and order" needs to do some soul searching to find out what went wrong along the way.

Let me simply restate this ....

Without evidence, the Democrats accused the Russians of tempering with the 2016 election.  And exhaustive investigation took place and it did not produce any evidence the Russians affected the outcome of the election.  Along the way, some were charged with process crimes that also did not alter the outcome of the 2016 election.

The result was the credibility of US election process was destroyed.

[Not A Serious Person]

Tampering was proven and it was in the conclusion of the report. You're either trolling or delusional (or both).
Read it:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

"Fever swamps of the unhinged" = Republican Senate report. Rubio, Cornyn, Cotton, etc. are all part of the Deep State!

So you think Hillary won in 2016?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Actually, it is not, but whatever it takes to keep you thinking you're morally superior.

Well, I never was on the "Russia stole the election" narrative however.

But compare and contrast the ACTIONS from the losing party's leadership today compared to four years ago. 

[Pakuni]

So you think Hillary won in 2016?

Nope.
Do you think the Senate Republicans authored a phony 966-page report to propagate an anti-Trump hoax?

[Not A Serious Person]

Well, I never was on the "Russia stole the election" narrative however.

But compare and contrast the ACTIONS from the losing party's leadership today compared to four years ago.

FIFY
I prefer to compare and contrast the ACTIONS from the losing party's leadership today compared to four twenty years ago.

[shoothoops]

Can Perdue request a recount of his race?

In Georgia, a losing candidate may request a recount if they are within 0.5% of winner.

All ballots will be recounted both electronically, as well as by hand, in time for Georgia to be certified.(lots of overtime hours continue there)

Georgia has had a more transparent process than most states. The Republican Secretary of State donated to Trump in both 2016, and, 2020. The hand recount is seen as a way of appeasing some of these people. As you may be aware, the Republicans in charge of Georgia voting have received baseless allegations from both Republican Georgia Senate Candidates and some others. Lots of back and forth between the two groups.

All of this is tactical strategy to fire up a Trump base set of voters for January 5th turnout. Trump's interests are of course are only about Trump, which are mainly financial at this point for him.

So, again, Biden will win Georgia, and finish with a landslide 306 Electoral Votes and millions and millions of margin in the popular vote. And, Georgia will have its two close Senate Run off Elections January 5th, with all of the various dates I have already provided.

👍

[Not A Serious Person]

Nope.
Do you think the Senate Republicans authored a phony 966-page report to propagate an anti-Trump hoax?

I do think 2016/Russia, combined with Gore in 2000 did far more to destroy the credibility of the US election process than what Trump is doing today, which is exercising his right to file a few lawsuits.

2000 and 2016 set the standard.  Trump is just following it.

[cheebs09]

I do think 2016/Russia, combined with Gore in 2000 did far more to destroy the credibility of the US election process than what Trump is doing today, which is exercising his right to file a few lawsuits.

2000 and 2016 set the standard.  Trump is just following it.

I think it’s a bit disingenuous to write this off as a filing a few lawsuits. I think all the tweets and comments on the fraud of mail-in ballots and stealing an election over the past year are pretty damaging.

[Pakuni]

I do think 2016/Russia, combined with Gore in 2000 did far more to destroy the credibility of the US election process than what Trump is doing today, which is exercising his right to file a few lawsuits.

2000 and 2016 set the standard.  Trump is just following it.

Quite the dodge. ACB would be proud.
But by evading the question you answered the question.

[Warrior Code]

Don't give in to whataboutism. It's how people try to get you off the topic at hand, and next thing you know you're arguing about something completely different instead.

[MU82]

The emperor has been saying this election would be a rigged "fraud" for months. Never offered a shred of evidence. And obviously, since the election ended, he has gone nuclear with his claims, still offering not a single shred of evidence.

Those in charge of vote-counting in many states, including some Republicans, are getting death threats due to Commodus' deranged, delusional, traitorous rants.

So yes, this already is far worse than anything election-related that has happened in my lifetime, including 2000 and 2016.

[Galway Eagle]

Well this is about to get locked. AZ and GA for sure going to recount. Is WI as well?

[Not A Serious Person]

I think it’s a bit disingenuous to write this off as a filing a few lawsuits. I think all the tweets and comments on the fraud of mail-in ballots and stealing an election over the past year are pretty damaging.

Compared to allegations repeated for years and years that Russia stole and election?

Here is the reality.

Election integrity if about one thing ... if your guy wins. 

The survey, conducted from Oct. 13-20, shows 43% of Biden supporters would not accept a Trump victory
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/four-in-ten-supporters-of-biden-trump-would-not-accept-election-defeat-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN27A0BB

[MU82]

From Washington Post:

Six states where President Trump has threatened to challenge his defeat continued their march toward declaring certified election results in the coming weeks, as his advisers privately acknowledged that President-elect Joe Biden’s official victory is less a question of “if” than “when.”

Trump began the day tweeting about “BALLOT COUNTING ABUSE” as he and his allies touted unproven claims that fraud had tainted the election in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Vice President Pence gave a presentation to Republican senators on Capitol Hill about new litigation expected in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Georgia — imploring them to stick with the president, according to several Republicans in the room.

But even some of the president’s most publicly pugilistic aides, including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel and informal adviser Corey Lewandowski, have said privately that they are concerned about the lawsuits’ chances for success unless more evidence surfaces, according to people familiar with their views.

Trump met with advisers again Tuesday afternoon to discuss whether there is a path forward, said a person with knowledge of the discussions, who, like others interviewed for this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions. The person said Trump plans to keep fighting but understands it is going to be difficult. “He is all over the place. It changes from hour to hour,” the person said.

In the states, Democratic and some Republican officials said they have seen no evidence of fraud on a scale sufficient to overturn the results. “There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud,” one GOP official in Georgia said.

[Not A Serious Person]

The emperor has been saying this election would be a rigged "fraud" for months. Never offered a shred of evidence. And obviously, since the election ended, he has gone nuclear with his claims, still offering not a single shred of evidence.

Those in charge of vote-counting in many states, including some Republicans, are getting death threats due to Commodus' deranged, delusional, traitorous rants.

So yes, this already is far worse than anything election-related that has happened in my lifetime, including 2000 and 2016.

It's because you want to see it that way.  Reality is this is what the losing side does.

Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

And don't forget Gore took 36 days to concede.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

FIFY
I prefer to compare and contrast the ACTIONS from the losing party's leadership today compared to four twenty years ago.

Of course you would.  Anything to shift goalposts to make whatever point you are trying to make.  "Well, let's talk about 2016 and Russia.  Oh wait!  Nevermind.  Let's talk about 20 years ago instead."

[Not A Serious Person]

Is she as terrible as Trump?  She been praised in previous pages here.

Stacey Abrams Still Claims Election ‘Stolen From the People of Georgia’
https://am970theanswer.com/content/national-news/stacey-abrams-still-claims-election-stolen-from-the-people-of-georgia

[Jockey]

Let me simply restate this ....

Without evidence, the Democrats accused the Russians of tempering with the 2016 election.  And exhaustive investigation took place and it did not produce any evidence the Russians affected the outcome of the election.  Along the way, some were charged with process crimes that also did not alter the outcome of the 2016 election.

The result was the credibility of US election process was destroyed.

You simply remain a liar.