Newcomer Impact Rankings

[dajudge]

Per ESPN, Carton at 19; Garcia at 38

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30139382/newcomer-impact-rankings-which-college-basketball-freshmen-transfers-lead-teams-2020-21

[dajudge]

Per ESPN, Carton at 19; Garcia at 38
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26382381/college-basketball-coaching-changes-2019-20

Impactful. Sorry.

[dajudge]

Impactful. Sorry.
And wrong link, but it keeps going to a coaching article.  someone else hopefully can link it.

[Galway Eagle]

I know it's not a competition but I hope that DJ ends up being a bigger impact than both Hausers unlike what is listed

[94Warrior]

Do you expect Henry Ellenson-type impact for Dawson Garcia?

Before you answer, please remember Henry was:

Big East Freshman of the Year,
1st Team All-Big East,
Single-handedly beat the Vadgers in the Kohl Hole forcing Bo Ryan into hiding.
Averaged 17 & 9.7.

And, unfortunately, left after 1 season.  But, that freshman season didn't suck.

[Its DJOver]

I don't expect Dawson to put up numbers as good as Henry, but Dawson also has a significantly better team around him.  I would hope Dawson doesn't shoot over three 3's a game at 28%

[Galway Eagle]

Do you expect Henry Ellenson-type impact for Dawson Garcia?

Before you answer, please remember Henry was:

Big East Freshman of the Year,
1st Team All-Big East,
Averaged 17 & 9.7.

And, unfortunately, left after 1 season.  But, that freshman season didn't suck.

Better hope it's close because unless Koby gets back to Utah Koby we need a legit second player to Carton.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Speaking on Henry, is his NBA career over?  I am sure he can make a pretty penny playing overseas somewhere, but man.  Sticking in the NBA is tough. 

[wadesworld]

Do you expect Henry Ellenson-type impact for Dawson Garcia?

Before you answer, please remember Henry was:

Big East Freshman of the Year,
1st Team All-Big East,
Averaged 17 & 9.7.

And, unfortunately, left after 1 season.  But, that freshman season didn't suck.

No.  The pieces around Dawson are better than they were around Henry, and I think Henry was a little better at this stage of their careers.  I expect Dawson to be All Freshman and maybe an Honorable Mention All Big East player.  My guess is he'll average like 12 points and 6 rebounds per game.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Carton is the guy.

But if Akanno is half as good as he looked in those summer mixtapes, he could be an awesome weapon.  If he could get 10 PPG out of Dexter, this team looks muchhhhhh better. 

[Markusquette]

Carton is the guy.

But if Akanno is half as good as he looked in those summer mixtapes, he could be an awesome weapon.  If he could get 10 PPG out of Dexter, this team looks muchhhhhh better.

Agreed. He's had a bit of hype surrounding him. I hope Dexter can step in and provide early help. Losing Bailey hurts a bit, but for some reason I'm not that concerned about losing him.

[The Sultan]

Speaking on Henry, is his NBA career over?  I am sure he can make a pretty penny playing overseas somewhere, but man.  Sticking in the NBA is tough. 

He was having a pretty solid G-League season before it was shut down.  It's an uphill battle for him to get back, but I wouldn't be surprised if he resurfaces down the road.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

So we ended up using only 11 scholarships this year, right? 

Seniors: John, Cain and McEwen
Juniors: Elliott
Sophomores: Carton, Torrence
Freshman: Lewis, Akanno, Idhodaro, Garcia
Redshirt: Perez

Theoretically then have room for 2 mid season transfers.

[BrewCity83]

Impactful. Sorry.
And wrong link, but it keeps going to a coaching article.  someone else hopefully can link it.

Here's the link:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30139382/newcomer-impact-rankings-which-college-basketball-freshmen-transfers-lead-teams-2020-21

[BrewCity83]

Carton and Garcia are rated as the Top 2 in the entire Big East.

Also notable is Nicolet High product Jalen Johnson at #8 at Duke.

[We R Final Four]

I think Jalen only played at Nicolet for his junior year.

[BCHoopster]

No, played as a senior as well, cameback
From prep school

[bilsu]

So we ended up using only 11 scholarships this year, right? 

Seniors: John, Cain and McEwen
Juniors: Elliott
Sophomores: Carton, Torrence
Freshman: Lewis, Akanno, Idhodaro, Garcia
Redshirt: Perez

Theoretically then have room for 2 mid season transfers.

I am assuming the walk on that was given a scholarhip last yer will alos get one this year. That would leave one scholarship open.

[The Sultan]

I would be extremely surprised to see a mid year transfer unless it is a very high caliber player.  Too much potential for roster congestion with the extra years of eligibility out there.

[dgies9156]

Better hope it's close because unless Koby gets back to Utah Koby we need a legit second player to Carton.

I'll say it again. I'm excited about this team.

We have more than enough depth at guard with Dexter, Symir, Greg, Koby and DJ.

Our wings with Justin, Oso and Dawson are really good and I'm optimistic that Dawson and Oso will be making us ask, "Henry Who?"

If Jamil Cain plays consistently, we'll be dynamite.

There are a lot of really good parts here. Top 3 finish in the Big East!!!!!!!

[warriorchick]

So we ended up using only 11 scholarships this year, right? 

Seniors: John, Cain and McEwen
Juniors: Elliott
Sophomores: Carton, Torrence
Freshman: Lewis, Akanno, Idhodaro, Garcia
Redshirt: Perez

Theoretically then have room for 2 mid season transfers.

I think I read that they gave Gardiner a scholly.

[The Lens]

I would be extremely surprised to see a mid year transfer unless it is a very high caliber player.  Too much potential for roster congestion with the extra years of eligibility out there.

Is this really happening?  And does it only apply to seniors?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Is this really happening?  And does it only apply to seniors?

Hasn't happened yet but sounds like a #donedeal. The official language isn't out yet but the understanding is that it applies to anyone on a roster this season

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think I read that they gave Gardiner a scholly.

Thanks.

But dumb. 

[The Big East]

Thanks.

But dumb.

It is hard to find quality scout team players.  Many quit after a year or two. I think a component of the  Badgers success over the years has been their ability to retain their preferred walk on by giving them scholarships at some point.

Gardiner is now 6-7 230 ,and clearly plays an effective role in practice. So the coaches feel it is worth giving a scholarship to keep him around.